From luni-announce-admin@luni.org Wed Jun 20 19:05:08 2001 Received: from null.cc.uic.edu (IDENT:mailman@localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by null.cc.uic.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f5L055j07588; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 19:05:05 -0500 Received: from localhost (seva@localhost) by null.cc.uic.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f5L024l07527 for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 19:02:04 -0500 From: "Simon L. Epsteyn" X-X-Sender: To: Message-ID: X-Foo: Bar MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [LUNI] ANN: Welcome to new list(s) and luni.org X-BeenThere: luni-announce@luni.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk Sender: luni-admin@luni.org Errors-To: luni-admin@luni.org X-BeenThere: luni@luni.org Reply-To: luni@luni.org X-Reply-To: luni@luni.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed Jun 20 19:09:01 2001 X-Original-Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 19:02:04 -0500 (CDT) The new mailman based lists are ready (this is final test) luni-announce@luni.org Announcements only (posts here go to luni as well) Moderated http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni-announce luni@luni.org Technical discussion (only) http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni luni-d@luni.org General (non-technical/off topic) discussion http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni-d New (temp) http://luni.org is up, it's being worked on, there have been a number of people interested in helping, I'll be contacting them. /Simon ______________________________________________________________________ Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Announcements luni-announce@luni.org http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni-announce From ncs@mcs.net Wed Jun 20 19:11:55 2001 Received: from bnfep04.boone.winstar.net (bnfep04e.boone.winstar.net [63.140.240.58]) by null.cc.uic.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f5L0Btj07791 for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 19:11:55 -0500 Received: from ncs ([205.164.12.175]) by bnfep04.boone.winstar.net with SMTP id <20010621001149.KQTK402.bnfep04@ncs> for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 20:11:49 -0400 Message-ID: <000a01c0f9e8$12571640$af0ca4cd@ncs> From: "NCS" To: References: Subject: Re: [LUNI] LUNI Status update MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: luni-admin@luni.org Errors-To: luni-admin@luni.org X-BeenThere: luni@luni.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: luni@luni.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed Jun 20 19:12:02 2001 X-Original-Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 19:21:08 -0500 What sort of help do you need Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: Simon L. Epsteyn To: Linux Users Of Northern Illinois Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2001 9:14 PM Subject: [LUNI] LUNI Status update > Expect luni.org and the mailing list to be fully functional by Wed night. > > For now I've put old online archive back up on the old machine > (http://luni.org/mail-archive) at least until someone pulls the plug on it. > > I am looking for people interested in morphing clug.chicago.il.us and > aalug.org pages into www.luni.org, otherwise the new luni.org will look > surprisingly like old (current) clug web site. > > /Simon > > > -=- > Linux Users Of Northern Illinois: Technical Discussion Mailing list. > For unsubscription, archives, and announcements only see http://luni.org > From seva@sevatech.com Wed Jun 20 19:13:54 2001 Received: from localhost (seva@localhost) by null.cc.uic.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f5L0Ds507874 for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 19:13:54 -0500 From: "Simon L. Epsteyn" X-X-Sender: To: Subject: Re: [LUNI] LUNI Status update In-Reply-To: <000a01c0f9e8$12571640$af0ca4cd@ncs> Message-ID: X-Foo: Bar MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: luni-admin@luni.org Errors-To: luni-admin@luni.org X-BeenThere: luni@luni.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: luni@luni.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed Jun 20 19:14:06 2001 X-Original-Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 19:13:54 -0500 (CDT) Designing/making/maintaining the web page sort of help ;) I don't know what that really means just yet, I am thinking of making luni-www list for everyone interested in helping. /Simon On Wed, 20 Jun 2001, NCS wrote: > What sort of help do you need > > Dave From seva@sevatech.com Wed Jun 20 19:14:41 2001 Received: from localhost (seva@localhost) by null.cc.uic.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f5L0Efw07925 for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 19:14:41 -0500 From: "Simon L. Epsteyn" X-X-Sender: To: Linux Users Of Northern Illinois Message-ID: X-Foo: Bar MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [LUNI] Status Update, Part 2 Sender: luni-admin@luni.org Errors-To: luni-admin@luni.org X-BeenThere: luni@luni.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: luni@luni.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed Jun 20 19:15:01 2001 X-Original-Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 19:14:41 -0500 (CDT) I should mention that if there were any messages that you've send in the last couple of days and you want to see them posted -- send them again. Thanks. /Simon From darren@freebirdtech.com Wed Jun 20 19:25:10 2001 Received: from ns.freebirdtech.com (ns.freebirdtech.com [209.61.189.159]) by null.cc.uic.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f5L0PAj08236 for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 19:25:10 -0500 Received: from cb24371-a.rmdws1.il.home.com (home.darrenross.com [24.183.123.75]) by ns.freebirdtech.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA20225 for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 19:48:36 -0500 Message-Id: <200106210048.TAA20225@ns.freebirdtech.com> Subject: Re: [LUNI] LUNI Status update From: Darren To: luni@luni.org In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9 - Preview Release) Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: luni-admin@luni.org Errors-To: luni-admin@luni.org X-BeenThere: luni@luni.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: luni@luni.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed Jun 20 19:26:15 2001 X-Original-Date: 20 Jun 2001 19:21:45 -0500 I can setup phpnuke if someone has an Apache/PHP/Mysql server available. On 20 Jun 2001 19:13:54 -0500, Simon L. Epsteyn wrote: > Designing/making/maintaining the web page sort of help ;) > > I don't know what that really means just yet, I am thinking of making > luni-www list for everyone interested in helping. > > /Simon > > On Wed, 20 Jun 2001, NCS wrote: > > > What sort of help do you need > > > > Dave > > ______________________________________________________________________ > Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > luni@luni.org > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni From admin@chicagoarea.net Wed Jun 20 19:31:36 2001 Received: from chicagoarea.net ([65.164.55.12]) by null.cc.uic.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id f5L0VZj08373 for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 19:31:35 -0500 Received: from chicagoarea.net ([65.164.55.5]) by chicagoarea.net ( IA Mail Server Version: 3.2.2. Build: 1087 ) ) ; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 19:26:32 -0500 Message-ID: <3B313F17.280EC662@chicagoarea.net> From: Scott Organization: Chicago Area Networking Services -- http://chicagoarea.net/ -- mailto:scott@chicagoarea.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: luni@luni.org Subject: Re: [LUNI] LUNI Status update References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: luni-admin@luni.org Errors-To: luni-admin@luni.org X-BeenThere: luni@luni.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: luni@luni.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed Jun 20 19:32:11 2001 X-Original-Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 19:25:59 -0500 Brian and I were thinking about setting up a PHP-Nuke site LUNI could use... Simon L. Epsteyn wrote: > Designing/making/maintaining the web page sort of help ;) > > I don't know what that really means just yet, I am thinking of making > luni-www list for everyone interested in helping. > > /Simon > > On Wed, 20 Jun 2001, NCS wrote: > > > What sort of help do you need > > > > Dave > > ______________________________________________________________________ > Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > luni@luni.org > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni From dcarmich@mail.ourservers.net Wed Jun 20 19:55:48 2001 Received: from stan.ourservers.net (stan.ourservers.net [216.233.120.235]) by null.cc.uic.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f5L0tmj08645 for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 19:55:48 -0500 Received: by mail.ourservers.net (MX V5.2 AXP) id 4; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 19:55:41 -0500 From: Douglas Carmichael To: luni@luni.org Message-ID: <009FDD4B.7208D500.4@mail.ourservers.net> Subject: Re: [LUNI] LUNI Status update MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: luni-admin@luni.org Errors-To: luni-admin@luni.org X-BeenThere: luni@luni.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: luni@luni.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed Jun 20 19:56:13 2001 X-Original-Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 19:55:40 -0500 I can help with whatever. (I'm willing to learn.) From emacadie@xnet.com Wed Jun 20 20:27:54 2001 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by null.cc.uic.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f5L1Rsj09044; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 20:27:54 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id UAA11618; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 20:27:53 -0500 (CDT) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 5529) id 6A8DF3869A; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 20:27:53 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D80135DAA; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 20:27:53 -0500 (CDT) From: Eric MacAdie To: Cc: In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [LUNI] Open for business Sender: luni-admin@luni.org Errors-To: luni-admin@luni.org X-BeenThere: luni@luni.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: luni@luni.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed Jun 20 20:28:01 2001 X-Original-Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 20:27:53 -0500 (CDT) Is the Luni list "open for business" yet? I am having trouble setting up a home network. EKMacAdie From tom@yarrish.com Wed Jun 20 20:30:06 2001 Received: from mail.yarrish.com (c538342-a.mntp1.il.home.com [24.22.244.200]) by null.cc.uic.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id f5L1U6j09156 for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 20:30:06 -0500 Received: (qmail 8999 invoked from network); 21 Jun 2001 01:29:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO C538342-A) (192.168.13.3) by 192.168.13.6 with SMTP; 21 Jun 2001 01:29:29 -0000 Message-ID: <200106202034220492.147ED81C@192.168.13.6> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Calypso Version 3.10.03.02 (4) From: "Tom Yarrish" To: luni@luni.org Subject: Re: [LUNI] ANN: Welcome to new list(s) and luni.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by null.cc.uic.edu id f5L1U6j09156 Sender: luni-admin@luni.org Errors-To: luni-admin@luni.org X-BeenThere: luni@luni.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: luni@luni.org X-Reply-To: tom@yarrish.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed Jun 20 20:31:03 2001 X-Original-Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 20:34:22 -0500 So are we automagically subscribed to all three lists, or do we need to resubscribe? Thanks, Tom *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 6/20/2001 at 7:02 PM Simon L. Epsteyn was rumored to say: >The new mailman based lists are ready (this is final test) > > luni-announce@luni.org > Announcements only (posts here go to luni as well) > Moderated > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni-announce > > luni@luni.org > Technical discussion (only) > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni > > luni-d@luni.org > General (non-technical/off topic) discussion > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni-d > >New (temp) http://luni.org is up, it's being worked on, there have been a >number of people interested in helping, I'll be contacting them. > >/Simon > > > >______________________________________________________________________ >Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Announcements >luni-announce@luni.org >http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni-announce >______________________________________________________________________ >Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion >luni@luni.org >http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni #!/usr/bin/perl -w # 526-byte qrpff, Keith Winstein and Marc Horowitz # MPEG 2 PS VOB file on stdin -> descrambled output on stdout # arguments: title key bytes in least to most-significant order $_='while(read+STDIN,$_,2048){$a=29;$c=142;if((@a=unx"C*",$_)[20]&48){$h=5; $_=unxb24,join"",@b=map{xB8,unxb8,chr($_^$a[--$h+84])}@ARGV;s/...$/1$&/;$d= unxV,xb25,$_;$b=73;$e=256|(ord$b[4])<<9|ord$b[3];$d=$d>>8^($f=($t=255)&($d >>12^$d>>4^$d^$d/8))<<17,$e=$e>>8^($t&($g=($q=$e>>14&7^$e)^$q*8^$q<<6))<<9 ,$_=(map{$_%16or$t^=$c^=($m=(11,10,116,100,11,122,20,100)[$_/16%8])&110;$t ^=(72,@z=(64,72,$a^=12*($_%16-2?0:$m&17)),$b^=$_%64?12:0,@z)[$_%8]}(16..271)) [$_]^(($h>>=8)+=$f+(~$g&$t))for@a[128..$#a]}print+x"C*",@a}';s/x/pack+/g;eval From seva@sevatech.com Wed Jun 20 20:33:06 2001 Received: from localhost (seva@localhost) by null.cc.uic.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f5L1X6V09245 for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 20:33:06 -0500 From: "Simon L. Epsteyn" X-X-Sender: To: Subject: Re: [LUNI] ANN: Welcome to new list(s) and luni.org In-Reply-To: <200106202034220492.147ED81C@192.168.13.6> Message-ID: X-Foo: Bar MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: luni-admin@luni.org Errors-To: luni-admin@luni.org X-BeenThere: luni@luni.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: luni@luni.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed Jun 20 20:34:00 2001 X-Original-Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 20:33:06 -0500 (CDT) You are subscribed to what you were subscribed to before. LUNI is automatically on LUNI-announce, no one here needs to subscribe to -announce unless you don't want any other traffic. LUNI-d is the new list, if you are interested in non-linux talk subsribe to it. /Simon On Wed, 20 Jun 2001, Tom Yarrish wrote: > So are we automagically subscribed to all three lists, or do we need to resubscribe? > > Thanks, > Tom > > *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** > > On 6/20/2001 at 7:02 PM Simon L. Epsteyn was rumored to say: > > >The new mailman based lists are ready (this is final test) > > > > luni-announce@luni.org > > Announcements only (posts here go to luni as well) > > Moderated > > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni-announce > > > > luni@luni.org > > Technical discussion (only) > > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni > > > > luni-d@luni.org > > General (non-technical/off topic) discussion > > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni-d > > > >New (temp) http://luni.org is up, it's being worked on, there have been a > >number of people interested in helping, I'll be contacting them. > > > >/Simon > > > > > > > >______________________________________________________________________ > >Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Announcements > >luni-announce@luni.org > >http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni-announce > >______________________________________________________________________ > >Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > >luni@luni.org > >http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni > > > #!/usr/bin/perl -w > # 526-byte qrpff, Keith Winstein and Marc Horowitz > # MPEG 2 PS VOB file on stdin -> descrambled output on stdout > # arguments: title key bytes in least to most-significant order > $_='while(read+STDIN,$_,2048){$a=29;$c=142;if((@a=unx"C*",$_)[20]&48){$h=5; > $_=unxb24,join"",@b=map{xB8,unxb8,chr($_^$a[--$h+84])}@ARGV;s/...$/1$&/;$d= > unxV,xb25,$_;$b=73;$e=256|(ord$b[4])<<9|ord$b[3];$d=$d>>8^($f=($t=255)&($d > >>12^$d>>4^$d^$d/8))<<17,$e=$e>>8^($t&($g=($q=$e>>14&7^$e)^$q*8^$q<<6))<<9 > ,$_=(map{$_%16or$t^=$c^=($m=(11,10,116,100,11,122,20,100)[$_/16%8])&110;$t > ^=(72,@z=(64,72,$a^=12*($_%16-2?0:$m&17)),$b^=$_%64?12:0,@z)[$_%8]}(16..271)) > [$_]^(($h>>=8)+=$f+(~$g&$t))for@a[128..$#a]}print+x"C*",@a}';s/x/pack+/g;eval > > ______________________________________________________________________ > Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > luni@luni.org > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni > -- seva@sevatech.com http://sevatech.com From maney@pobox.com Wed Jun 20 20:38:08 2001 Received: from gateway.two14.net (postfix@dsl-216-227-9-9.telocity.com [216.227.9.9]) by null.cc.uic.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f5L1c7j09424 for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 20:38:07 -0500 Received: from wheel.two14.net (wheel.two14.net [172.31.1.2]) by gateway.two14.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F17D459B8 for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 20:38:00 -0500 (CDT) Received: from furrr.two14.net [172.31.1.5] (postfix) by wheel.two14.net with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 15CtQ0-0002fr-00; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 20:38:00 -0500 Received: by furrr.two14.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B1F781D855; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 20:38:00 -0500 (CDT) To: luni@luni.org Subject: Re: [LUNI] ANN: Welcome to new list(s) and luni.org Message-ID: <20010620203800.A32310@furrr.two14.net> References: <200106202034220492.147ED81C@192.168.13.6> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from seva@sevatech.com on Wed, Jun 20, 2001 at 08:33:06PM -0500 From: maney@pobox.com (Martin Maney) Sender: luni-admin@luni.org Errors-To: luni-admin@luni.org X-BeenThere: luni@luni.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: luni@luni.org X-Reply-To: maney@pobox.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed Jun 20 20:39:13 2001 X-Original-Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 20:38:00 -0500 On Wed, Jun 20, 2001 at 08:33:06PM -0500, Simon L. Epsteyn wrote: > You are subscribed to what you were subscribed to before. Right, that has become pretty obvious as the evening progressed. :-) > LUNI is automatically on LUNI-announce, no one here needs to subscribe to > -announce unless you don't want any other traffic. Q: do you mean that luni-announce reads the subscriber list and calls them its own, or that it forwards to list "luni"? > LUNI-d is the new list, if you are interested in non-linux talk subsribe to > it. Oh good, a place where the beer-swillers can discuss their favorite topic! -- I must say I find television very educational. The minute somebody turns it on, I go to the library and read a good book. -- Groucho Marx From seva@sevatech.com Wed Jun 20 20:40:36 2001 Received: from localhost (seva@localhost) by null.cc.uic.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f5L1ea309545 for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 20:40:36 -0500 From: "Simon L. Epsteyn" X-X-Sender: To: Subject: Re: [LUNI] ANN: Welcome to new list(s) and luni.org In-Reply-To: <20010620203800.A32310@furrr.two14.net> Message-ID: X-Foo: Bar MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: luni-admin@luni.org Errors-To: luni-admin@luni.org X-BeenThere: luni@luni.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: luni@luni.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed Jun 20 20:41:13 2001 X-Original-Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 20:40:35 -0500 (CDT) > Q: do you mean that luni-announce reads the subscriber list and calls them > its own, or that it forwards to list "luni"? luni@luni.org is one of the subscribers to luni-announce. /Simon From bvmcg@yahoo.com Wed Jun 20 20:46:00 2001 Received: from web11203.mail.yahoo.com (web11203.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.131.185]) by null.cc.uic.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id f5L1k0j09737 for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 20:46:00 -0500 Message-ID: <20010621014559.46886.qmail@web11203.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [64.81.147.195] by web11203.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 18:45:59 PDT From: Brian McGroarty To: luni@luni.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [LUNI] Gash. DVI display. Sender: luni-admin@luni.org Errors-To: luni-admin@luni.org X-BeenThere: luni@luni.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: luni@luni.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed Jun 20 20:46:03 2001 X-Original-Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 18:45:59 -0700 (PDT) I've got a 1024x768 DVI display that I managed to gash while moving. It's an Apple Studio LCD with the DVI connector, so it works on a PC. The display still works, but there's a half-inch gash in the display area about 3/4 down and 1/4 over. That section always shows white as a result. I assume this isn't fixable - I'm pretty much just using it as a tertiary display to show pretty pictures right now. Is it worth anything to anyone? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From jhelfman@dsl-64-34-6-73.telocity.com Wed Jun 20 21:16:47 2001 Received: from alienhybridchicken.com (dsl-64-34-6-73.telocity.com [64.34.6.73]) by null.cc.uic.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id f5L2Gjj10049 for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 21:16:45 -0500 Received: (qmail 16530 invoked by uid 1000); 19 Jun 2001 00:19:11 -0000 From: Jason Helfman To: luni@luni.org Subject: Re: [LUNI] Quick survey: preferred FTP Server? Message-ID: <20010618171911.A16512@dsl-64-34-6-73.telocity.com> Mail-Followup-To: Jason Helfman , luni@luni.org References: <1E8B39891888D311825000508B070E8F0464C88F@GRUS> <20010506083538.A9728@wizoffice.com> <3AF4A59B.4070706@mediaone.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3AF4A59B.4070706@mediaone.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.19i X-Operating-System: Linux 2.2.19 i586 Sender: luni-admin@luni.org Errors-To: luni-admin@luni.org X-BeenThere: luni@luni.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: luni@luni.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed Jun 20 21:17:09 2001 X-Original-Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 17:19:11 -0700 My ftp of choice is NcFTPd On Sat, May 05, 2001 at 08:15:07PM -0500, Athens Springer thus spat: | Eugene Teo wrote: | | >ProFTPd is your friend. | | I've had nothing but luck with ProFTPd. | | -=- | Linux Users Of Northern Illinois: General Discussion Mailing list. | For unsubscription, archives, and announcements only see http://luni.org -- /Jason G Helfman "At any given moment, you may find the ticket to the circus that has always been in your possession." Fingerprint: 6A32 3774 E390 33B5 8C96 2AA1 2BF4 BD71 35A1 C149 GnuPG http://www.gnupg.org Get Private! 1024D/35A1C149 From david@midrange.com Wed Jun 20 21:31:45 2001 Received: from uucphost.mcs.net (root@Uucp1.mcs.net [192.160.127.93]) by null.cc.uic.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f5L2Vgj10365 for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 21:31:45 -0500 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by uucphost.mcs.net (8.11.3/8.11.1) with UUCP id f5L2VfI24613 for luni@luni.org; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 21:31:41 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from david@midrange.com) Received: from dustpuppy.midrange.com (dustpuppy.midrange.com [192.168.1.10]) by linux.midrange.com (8.9.3/linuxconf) with ESMTP id VAA05417 for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 21:33:14 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20010620212914.01cdf510@linux.midrange.com> X-Sender: david@linux.midrange.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 To: luni@luni.org From: David Gibbs Subject: Re: [LUNI] Quick survey: preferred FTP Server? In-Reply-To: <20010618171911.A16512@dsl-64-34-6-73.telocity.com> References: <3AF4A59B.4070706@mediaone.net> <1E8B39891888D311825000508B070E8F0464C88F@GRUS> <20010506083538.A9728@wizoffice.com> <3AF4A59B.4070706@mediaone.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: luni-admin@luni.org Errors-To: luni-admin@luni.org X-BeenThere: luni@luni.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: luni@luni.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed Jun 20 21:32:08 2001 X-Original-Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 21:29:41 -0500 Ditto here. And if you don't need more than 3 connections at once, it's free. At 07:19 PM 6/18/2001, you wrote: >My ftp of choice is NcFTPd -- | Internet: david@midrange.com | WWW: http://david.falling-rock.org | | Expect me when you see me. From michael.salsman@bea.com Wed Jun 20 21:52:05 2001 Received: from mlists.bea.com ([63.96.163.6]) by null.cc.uic.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f5L2q5j10674 for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 21:52:05 -0500 Received: from schaumburg.beasys.com (schaumburg.beasys.com [192.168.250.10]) by mlists.bea.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA25531 for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 19:53:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from salsman3 ([192.168.44.84]) by schaumburg.beasys.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id VAA29722 for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 21:49:22 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <002401c0f9fd$9d936aa0$0dc0c0c0@salsman3> From: "Michael Salsman" To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0021_01C0F9D3.B3109D00" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Subject: [LUNI] Question about Linuxfest ... Sender: luni-admin@luni.org Errors-To: luni-admin@luni.org X-BeenThere: luni@luni.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: luni@luni.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed Jun 20 21:53:06 2001 X-Original-Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 21:55:20 -0500 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0021_01C0F9D3.B3109D00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have a Compaq Presario 486 that I have installed an overdrive = processor that is clocking around 133 mhz. It currently has 8 MB of = memory, but I have enough add-on memory to take it to 32 mb. The hard = drive is 340 mb. Will there be a distribution there that will run on = that processor/memory/disk, so that I can use it as a web server, and = potentially as a firewall if I every get decent speed into the old = homestead? =20 I am thinking about apache/tomcat/postgresql for the web site, but will = want to pick the resident expert's brains during the installfest ... TIA, Mike Michael Salsman BEA Systems, Inc. Central Region SE 900 N. National Parkway, Suite 280 Schaumburg, IL 60173 (847) 995-7913 michael.salsman@bea.com ------=_NextPart_000_0021_01C0F9D3.B3109D00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I have a Compaq Presario 486 that I = have installed=20 an overdrive processor that is clocking around 133 mhz.  It = currently has 8=20 MB of memory, but I have enough add-on memory to take it to 32 mb.  = The=20 hard drive is 340 mb.  Will there be a distribution there that will = run on=20 that processor/memory/disk, so that I can use it as a web server, and=20 potentially as a firewall if I every get decent speed into the old=20 homestead? 
 
I am thinking about = apache/tomcat/postgresql for=20 the web site, but will want to pick the resident expert's brains during = the=20 installfest ...
 
TIA,
 
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------=_NextPart_000_0021_01C0F9D3.B3109D00-- From lembark@wrkhors.com Wed Jun 20 21:58:48 2001 Received: from getz.wrkhors.com (jeeves.wrkhors.com [207.227.243.17]) by null.cc.uic.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f5L2wmj10805 for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 21:58:48 -0500 Received: from dizzy (dizzy.wrkhors.com [192.168.200.4]) by getz.wrkhors.com (Switch-2.0.0/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f5L2w6w13297 for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 21:58:06 -0500 From: Steven Lembark To: luni@luni.org Subject: Re: [LUNI] Question about Linuxfest ... Message-ID: <76560000.993092286@dizzy> In-Reply-To: <002401c0f9fd$9d936aa0$0dc0c0c0@salsman3> X-Mailer: Mulberry/2.0.8 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: luni-admin@luni.org Errors-To: luni-admin@luni.org X-BeenThere: luni@luni.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: luni@luni.org X-Reply-To: lembark@wrkhors.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed Jun 20 21:59:01 2001 X-Original-Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 21:58:06 -0500 > I have a Compaq Presario 486 that I have installed an overdrive processor > that is clocking around 133 mhz. It currently has 8 MB of memory, but I > have enough add-on memory to take it to 32 mb. The hard drive is 340 mb. > Will there be a distribution there that will run on that > processor/memory/disk, so that I can use it as a web server, and > potentially as a firewall if I every get decent speed into the old > homestead? Just about anything will run on 8MB, you should get 16MB+ for X11. Main issue with a 133MHz 486 for anything that sees the disk will be dismal bus and I/O speeds. Thing would be just peachy as a bastion host or router or apache server. From sten@narnia.net Wed Jun 20 22:57:57 2001 Received: from c000.snv.cp.net (c000-h007.c000.snv.cp.net [209.228.32.71]) by null.cc.uic.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id f5L3vuj11312 for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 22:57:56 -0500 Received: (cpmta 21815 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2001 20:57:49 -0700 Received: from dsl081-146-198.chi1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO aesir) (64.81.146.198) by smtp.narnia.net (209.228.32.71) with SMTP; 20 Jun 2001 20:57:49 -0700 X-Sent: 21 Jun 2001 03:57:49 GMT From: Sten Turpin To: luni@luni.org X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.99] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01062022583000.20691@aesir> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: [LUNI] are we back? Sender: luni-admin@luni.org Errors-To: luni-admin@luni.org X-BeenThere: luni@luni.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: luni@luni.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed Jun 20 22:58:01 2001 X-Original-Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 22:58:30 -0500 I've got about 1000 files with funky characters in the names (spaces, commas, parentahsis, etc) that I need to strip out. I'm trying to script it, but it's late and I think I'm missing something. Anyone done this before? Thanks! -Sten -- ------------------- `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked. `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad.' `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice. `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.' -Alice in Wonderland From seva@sevatech.com Wed Jun 20 23:08:21 2001 Received: from localhost (seva@localhost) by null.cc.uic.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f5L48LA11510 for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 23:08:21 -0500 From: "Simon L. Epsteyn" X-X-Sender: To: Subject: Re: [LUNI] are we back? In-Reply-To: <01062022583000.20691@aesir> Message-ID: X-Foo: Bar MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: luni-admin@luni.org Errors-To: luni-admin@luni.org X-BeenThere: luni@luni.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: luni@luni.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed Jun 20 23:09:10 2001 X-Original-Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 23:08:21 -0500 (CDT) On Wed, 20 Jun 2001, Sten Turpin wrote: > I've got about 1000 files with funky characters in the names (spaces, commas, > parentahsis, etc) that I need to strip out. I'm trying to script it, but it's > late and I think I'm missing something. Anyone done this before? Thanks! > -Sten I have a script that may be of use, I use it to fix some of the mp3 filenames, but it's an easy way to rename using regexp as well.. $ touch "test^G1" "test^H2" "test^K3" $ ls test?1 test?2 test?3 $ rmv -r "s/[^A-Za-z0-9]/_/" * $ ls test_1 test_2 test_3 $ http://seva.chicago.il.us/tmp/rmv.pl WARNING: Be very carefull with this script, I wrote it. Test it before using it on things you want to keep. /Simon From yes6812@yahoo.com Wed Jun 20 23:32:06 2001 Received: from web10404.mail.yahoo.com (web10404.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.130.96]) by null.cc.uic.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id f5L4W6j11895 for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 23:32:06 -0500 Message-ID: <20010621043206.92065.qmail@web10404.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [65.15.144.221] by web10404.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 21:32:06 PDT From: Daniel Nelson To: luni@luni.org In-Reply-To: <002401c0f9fd$9d936aa0$0dc0c0c0@salsman3> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [LUNI] Re: I need help with sendmail. Sender: luni-admin@luni.org Errors-To: luni-admin@luni.org X-BeenThere: luni@luni.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: luni@luni.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed Jun 20 23:33:01 2001 X-Original-Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 21:32:06 -0700 (PDT) I am running Red 7.1 I have apache running successfully with virtual hosts. I have a good host.domain_name. I am on the web. Basically everything around sendmail is working. I have placed my host.domain_name in sendmail.cf and it starts without any problems... A ps aux shows sendmail accepti... that looks good to me. Now what? Do I have to by the $50.00 sendmail book from orielly to figure out sendmail.cf? I am kinda broke and can't find any helpfull docs on the web. I could really use some help. Thanks ===== Daniel Nelson President Of WBLS LLC. (Web Based Linux Solutions)Inc. 847-530-3776 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From sil@null.cc.uic.edu Wed Jun 20 23:43:04 2001 Received: (from sil@localhost) by null.cc.uic.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f5L4h4T12152 for luni@luni.org; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 23:43:04 -0500 From: Gene Jannece To: luni@luni.org Subject: Re: [LUNI] Gash. DVI display. Message-ID: <20010620234304.A12091@null.cc.uic.edu> References: <20010621014559.46886.qmail@web11203.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010621014559.46886.qmail@web11203.mail.yahoo.com>; from bvmcg@yahoo.com on Wed, Jun 20, 2001 at 06:45:59PM -0700 Sender: luni-admin@luni.org Errors-To: luni-admin@luni.org X-BeenThere: luni@luni.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: luni@luni.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed Jun 20 23:44:02 2001 X-Original-Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 23:43:04 -0500 Having worked at a Mac Break & Fix shop, I can tell you that the parts themselves will cost more then just buying a new one. Althought dishonest, you could try and get AppleCare (Apple's Warrant plan) and get it fixed much cheaper... Just a suggestion... On Wed, Jun 20, 2001 at 06:45:59PM -0700, Brian McGroarty wrote: > I've got a 1024x768 DVI display that I managed to gash while > moving. It's an Apple Studio LCD with the DVI connector, so it > works on a PC. > > The display still works, but there's a half-inch gash in the > display area about 3/4 down and 1/4 over. That section always > shows white as a result. > > I assume this isn't fixable - I'm pretty much just using it as a > tertiary display to show pretty pictures right now. Is it worth > anything to anyone? > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ > ______________________________________________________________________ > Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > luni@luni.org > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni From lembark@wrkhors.com Wed Jun 20 23:59:26 2001 Received: from getz.wrkhors.com (jeeves.wrkhors.com [207.227.243.17]) by null.cc.uic.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f5L4xPj12322 for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 23:59:25 -0500 Received: from dizzy (dizzy.wrkhors.com [192.168.200.4]) by getz.wrkhors.com (Switch-2.0.0/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f5L4wiw13353 for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 23:58:45 -0500 From: Steven Lembark To: luni@luni.org Subject: Re: [LUNI] are we back? Message-ID: <152590000.993099525@dizzy> In-Reply-To: <01062022583000.20691@aesir> X-Mailer: Mulberry/2.0.8 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: luni-admin@luni.org Errors-To: luni-admin@luni.org X-BeenThere: luni@luni.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: luni@luni.org X-Reply-To: lembark@wrkhors.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu Jun 21 00:00:07 2001 X-Original-Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 23:58:45 -0500 > I've got about 1000 files with funky characters in the names (spaces, > commas, parentahsis, etc) that I need to strip out. I'm trying to script > it, but it's late and I think I'm missing something. Anyone done this > before? Thanks! -Sten perl -i~ -p -e 's/\W//g' *; will strip all of the non-word char's out of all the files on the command line, it will change them in place with the backup having a '~' appended to it (-i~) and print each line after reading and processin git (-p). if you only want to strip some chars: perl -i~ -p -e '/s[,-_=+*&%^%$#@!]//g' * or whatever will do it. to handle subdirs: find . -type f | xargs perl -i~ -p -e 'blahblahblah'; will recurse to your heart's delight. sl From lembark@wrkhors.com Thu Jun 21 00:05:50 2001 Received: from getz.wrkhors.com (jeeves.wrkhors.com [207.227.243.17]) by null.cc.uic.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f5L55oj12482 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 00:05:50 -0500 Received: from dizzy (dizzy.wrkhors.com [192.168.200.4]) by getz.wrkhors.com (Switch-2.0.0/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f5L559w13384 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 00:05:09 -0500 From: Steven Lembark To: luni@luni.org Subject: Re: [LUNI] Re: I need help with sendmail. Message-ID: <162700000.993099909@dizzy> In-Reply-To: <20010621043206.92065.qmail@web10404.mail.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Mulberry/2.0.8 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: luni-admin@luni.org Errors-To: luni-admin@luni.org X-BeenThere: luni@luni.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: luni@luni.org X-Reply-To: lembark@wrkhors.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu Jun 21 00:06:02 2001 X-Original-Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 00:05:09 -0500 > Now what? Do I have to by the $50.00 sendmail book > from orielly to figure out sendmail.cf? I am kinda > broke and can't find any helpfull docs on the web. Check the docs directory of the sendmail distribution (www.sendmail.org). What you probably need is a simple config based on the m4 macros (these are in the ./cf/cf directory (no typo: "./cf/cf"). A basic file looks something like: VERSIONID(`dizzy.wrkhors.com 1.0') OSTYPE(linux)dnl MAILER(local)dnl MAILER(smtp)dnl FEATURE(`nullclient',`jeeves.wrkhors.com')dnl i.e., all of the mail here gets forwarded to another box in my domain. There are quite a few example .mc files in ./cf/cf, you can probably just pick one that's close and be done with it. After that follow the instructions in ./cf/README -- basically you run m4 on a stock macro file and your .mc to output a sendmail.cf file. The bat book is a useful investment if you're going to be running any of this stuff for any real amount of time. From emacadie@xnet.com Thu Jun 21 00:11:34 2001 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by null.cc.uic.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f5L5BYj12644 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 00:11:34 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id AAA29743 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 00:11:35 -0500 (CDT) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 5529) id 16EB23869B; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 00:11:34 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E252C35DAA for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 00:11:34 -0500 (CDT) From: Eric MacAdie To: In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [LUNI] Technical Question: Home network setup Sender: luni-admin@luni.org Errors-To: luni-admin@luni.org X-BeenThere: luni@luni.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: luni@luni.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu Jun 21 00:12:16 2001 X-Original-Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 00:11:34 -0500 (CDT) I am trying to set up a home LAN with 2 PCs running Mandrake 8.0. I tried to follow the Home-Network-mini-HOWTO that is included in the docs, but I hit a brick wall. ifconfig eth* works for all 3 NIC cards on both machines. I got through section 3.1. Although my cards are identical, I did not add any addresses or IRQ info to /etc/modules.conf because I have PCI cards. For section 3.2, I edited /etc/sysconfig/network and /etc/sysctl.conf as directed in the HOWTO on the PC that will be the router. I also edited the /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth* files (see below). Then I ran /etc/rc.d/init.d/network restart and got an error: could not determine IP information for either card. What did I do wrong? Here are a few mores and the result of /etc/rc.d/init.d/network: ----------- [root@local01 network-scripts]# more /etc/modules.conf pre-install pcmcia_core CARDMGR_OPTS=-f /etc/rc.d/init.d/pcmcia start alias usb-interface usb-uhci alias eth0 natsemi alias eth1 natsemi alias sound-slot-0 sb [root@local01 network-scripts]# more /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-* :::::::::::::: ifcfg-eth0 :::::::::::::: DEVICE=eth0 BOOTPROTO=dhcp NETMASK=255.255.255.0 ONBOOT=yes :::::::::::::: ifcfg-eth1 :::::::::::::: DEVICE=eth1 BOOTPROTO=dhcp IPADDR=192.168.1.1 NETMASK=255.255.255.0 ONBOOT=yes :::::::::::::: ifcfg-eth1~ :::::::::::::: DEVICE=eth1 BOOTPROTO=dhcp NETMASK=255.255.255.0 ONBOOT=yes :::::::::::::: ifcfg-lo :::::::::::::: DEVICE=lo IPADDR=127.0.0.1 NETMASK=255.0.0.0 NETWORK=127.0.0.0 # If you're having problems with gated making 127.0.0.0/8 a martian, # you can change this to something else (255.255.255.255, for example) BROADCAST=127.255.255.255 ONBOOT=yes NAME=loopback [root@local01 network-scripts]# /etc/rc.d/init.d/network restart Setting network parameters: [ OK ] Bringing up interface lo: [ OK ] Enabling IPv4 packet forwarding [ OK ] Bringing up interface eth0: Determining IP information for eth0... failed. [FAILED] Bringing up interface eth1: Determining IP information for eth1... failed. [FAILED] EKMacAdie From patwhite@interaccess.com Thu Jun 21 00:40:55 2001 Received: from clavin.interaccess.com (from.interaccess.com [207.208.131.20]) by null.cc.uic.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f5L5etj12994 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 00:40:55 -0500 Received: from interaccess.com (d40.focal3.interaccess.com [207.208.138.40]) by clavin.interaccess.com (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f5L5em114139 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 00:40:48 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3B3188DE.11DE711F@interaccess.com> From: "Patrick R. White" Organization: What's an Organization? X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: luni@luni.org Subject: Re: [LUNI] Re: I need help with sendmail. References: <20010621043206.92065.qmail@web10404.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: luni-admin@luni.org Errors-To: luni-admin@luni.org X-BeenThere: luni@luni.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: luni@luni.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu Jun 21 00:41:08 2001 X-Original-Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 00:40:46 -0500 Also, Aeleen Frisch wrote a nice article in the June 2001 Linux Magazine called "Guru Guidance" Administering E-mail -- Part II, where she covers some basics about sendmail. Pat Daniel Nelson wrote: > Now what? Do I have to by the $50.00 sendmail book > from orielly to figure out sendmail.cf? I am kinda > broke and can't find any helpfull docs on the web. > > I could really use some help. > > Thanks > > ===== > Daniel Nelson > President Of WBLS LLC. (Web Based Linux Solutions)Inc. > 847-530-3776 > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ > ______________________________________________________________________ > Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > luni@luni.org > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni -- Patrick R. White email: patwhite@interaccess.com From dmw@geodesic.com Thu Jun 21 08:06:10 2001 Received: from steffi.geodesic.com (outside.geodesic.com [65.160.32.90]) by null.cc.uic.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f5LD69j15606 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 08:06:09 -0500 Received: from dmwnt (218.dynamic.geodesic.com [38.193.150.218]) by steffi.geodesic.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA25053 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 08:06:05 -0500 (CDT) From: "Donald M. Weber" To: Subject: RE: [LUNI] ANN: Welcome to new list(s) and luni.org Message-ID: <000801c0fa52$eda66060$da96c126@geodesic.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal Sender: luni-admin@luni.org Errors-To: luni-admin@luni.org X-BeenThere: luni@luni.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: luni@luni.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu Jun 21 08:07:14 2001 X-Original-Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 08:06:04 -0500 Simon, Thanks for all your hard work!! A hearty round of applause! Don (and I'm sure the rest of the list) > -----Original Message----- > From: luni-admin@luni.org [mailto:luni-admin@luni.org]On Behalf Of Simon > L. Epsteyn > Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 7:02 PM > To: luni-announce@luni.org > Subject: [LUNI] ANN: Welcome to new list(s) and luni.org > > > The new mailman based lists are ready (this is final test) > > luni-announce@luni.org > Announcements only (posts here go to luni as well) > Moderated > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni-announce > > luni@luni.org > Technical discussion (only) > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni > > luni-d@luni.org > General (non-technical/off topic) discussion > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni-d > > New (temp) http://luni.org is up, it's being worked on, there have been a > number of people interested in helping, I'll be contacting them. > > /Simon > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Announcements > luni-announce@luni.org > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni-announce > ______________________________________________________________________ > Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > luni@luni.org > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni > From maney@pobox.com Thu Jun 21 08:21:31 2001 Received: from gateway.two14.net (postfix@dsl-216-227-9-9.telocity.com [216.227.9.9]) by null.cc.uic.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f5LDLVj15909 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 08:21:31 -0500 Received: from wheel.two14.net (wheel.two14.net [172.31.1.2]) by gateway.two14.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B08F59B8 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 08:21:30 -0500 (CDT) Received: from furrr.two14.net [172.31.1.5] (postfix) by wheel.two14.net with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 15D4Oo-00031t-00; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 08:21:30 -0500 Received: by furrr.two14.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D28251D85B; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 08:21:29 -0500 (CDT) To: luni@luni.org Subject: Re: [LUNI] Technical Question: Home network setup Message-ID: <20010621082129.A18733@furrr.two14.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from emacadie@xnet.com on Thu, Jun 21, 2001 at 12:11:34AM -0500 From: maney@pobox.com (Martin Maney) Sender: luni-admin@luni.org Errors-To: luni-admin@luni.org X-BeenThere: luni@luni.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: luni@luni.org X-Reply-To: maney@pobox.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu Jun 21 08:22:14 2001 X-Original-Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 08:21:29 -0500 On Thu, Jun 21, 2001 at 12:11:34AM -0500, Eric MacAdie wrote: > ifconfig eth* works for all 3 NIC cards on both machines. > > I got through section 3.1. Although my cards are identical, I did not add > any addresses or IRQ info to /etc/modules.conf because I have PCI cards. Right, the drivers won't need that. But how do you know which NIC is which (eth0, etc.)? I *hate* having to trust the BIOS to get things setup correctly, and have had some interesting experiences - which sometimes were caused by trying to control what I couldn't (and, luckily, didn't need to in the end. it's amazing how well interrupt sharing works these days.) Anyway, what I'm wondering is whether the card that you think is eth0 is actually being assigned to that device. > and got an error: could not determine IP information for either card. I think those errors come from having the config set for DHCP with no DHCP server attached to that port. -- I didn't write a whole, free operating system, either. I wrote some pieces and invited other people to join me by writing other pieces. So I set an example. I said, "I'm going in this direction. Join me and we'll get there." And enough people joined in that we got there. -- R M Stallman From doug_dallmer@netzero.net Thu Jun 21 08:24:18 2001 Received: from mail9.wlv.netzero.net (mail9.wlv.netzero.net [209.247.163.66]) by null.cc.uic.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id f5LDOIj16004 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 08:24:18 -0500 Received: (qmail 23319 invoked from network); 21 Jun 2001 13:24:01 -0000 Received: from 57-pool2.ras11.ilchi.tii-dial.net (HELO computername) (206.250.233.57) by mail9.wlv.netzero.net with SMTP; 21 Jun 2001 13:24:01 -0000 Message-ID: <005501c0fa54$fa35ca80$39e9face@computername> From: "doug_dallmer" To: References: <000801c0fa52$eda66060$da96c126@geodesic.com> Subject: Re: [LUNI] ANN: Welcome to new list(s) and luni.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: luni-admin@luni.org Errors-To: luni-admin@luni.org X-BeenThere: luni@luni.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: luni@luni.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu Jun 21 08:25:01 2001 X-Original-Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 08:20:42 -0500 Don, you beat me to it. Thanks Simon, your time and skills are appreciated. Doug Dallmer ----- Original Message ----- From: Donald M. Weber To: Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 8:06 AM Subject: RE: [LUNI] ANN: Welcome to new list(s) and luni.org > Simon, > > Thanks for all your hard work!! > > A hearty round of applause! > > Don (and I'm sure the rest of the list) > > NetZero Platinum No Banner Ads and Unlimited Access Sign Up Today - Only $9.95 per month! http://www.netzero.net From Fhealy@aol.com Thu Jun 21 08:26:43 2001 Received: from imo-m04.mx.aol.com (imo-m04.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.7]) by null.cc.uic.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f5LDQhj16099 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 08:26:43 -0500 Received: from Fhealy@aol.com by imo-m04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v30.22.) id p.b4.17524147 (8391) for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 09:26:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Fhealy@aol.com Message-ID: Subject: Re: [LUNI] Technical Question: Home network setup To: luni@luni.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 123 Sender: luni-admin@luni.org Errors-To: luni-admin@luni.org X-BeenThere: luni@luni.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: luni@luni.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu Jun 21 08:27:05 2001 X-Original-Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 09:26:34 EDT I've set up dual netcard machines before under RedHat 5.2 and 6.2. The documentation I have seen indicates that if the cards are the same, you must give one of them a device alias. I have tried this but was never able to get it to work. Since I needed the system working, I found a different model net card so the two cards were different and things worked fine. Since most of the boxes I have built in this manner were intended for cable modem connections as the external interface, I generally draw on my supply of 3c509s for the external interface, with a fast Ethernet card for the internal interface. In a message dated 6/21/01 12:13:00 AM Central Daylight Time, emacadie@xnet.com writes: << Subj: [LUNI] Technical Question: Home network setup Date: 6/21/01 12:13:00 AM Central Daylight Time From: emacadie@xnet.com (Eric MacAdie) Sender: luni-admin@luni.org Reply-to: luni@luni.org To: luni@luni.org I am trying to set up a home LAN with 2 PCs running Mandrake 8.0. I tried to follow the Home-Network-mini-HOWTO that is included in the docs, but I hit a brick wall. ifconfig eth* works for all 3 NIC cards on both machines. I got through section 3.1. Although my cards are identical, I did not add any addresses or IRQ info to /etc/modules.conf because I have PCI cards. For section 3.2, I edited /etc/sysconfig/network and /etc/sysctl.conf as directed in the HOWTO on the PC that will be the router. I also edited the /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth* files (see below). Then I ran /etc/rc.d/init.d/network restart and got an error: could not determine IP information for either card. What did I do wrong? Here are a few mores and the result of /etc/rc.d/init.d/network: ----------- [root@local01 network-scripts]# more /etc/modules.conf pre-install pcmcia_core CARDMGR_OPTS=-f /etc/rc.d/init.d/pcmcia start alias usb-interface usb-uhci alias eth0 natsemi alias eth1 natsemi alias sound-slot-0 sb [root@local01 network-scripts]# more /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-* :::::::::::::: ifcfg-eth0 :::::::::::::: DEVICE=eth0 BOOTPROTO=dhcp NETMASK=255.255.255.0 ONBOOT=yes :::::::::::::: ifcfg-eth1 :::::::::::::: DEVICE=eth1 BOOTPROTO=dhcp IPADDR=192.168.1.1 NETMASK=255.255.255.0 ONBOOT=yes :::::::::::::: ifcfg-eth1~ :::::::::::::: DEVICE=eth1 BOOTPROTO=dhcp NETMASK=255.255.255.0 ONBOOT=yes :::::::::::::: ifcfg-lo :::::::::::::: DEVICE=lo IPADDR=127.0.0.1 NETMASK=255.0.0.0 NETWORK=127.0.0.0 # If you're having problems with gated making 127.0.0.0/8 a martian, # you can change this to something else (255.255.255.255, for example) BROADCAST=127.255.255.255 ONBOOT=yes NAME=loopback [root@local01 network-scripts]# /etc/rc.d/init.d/network restart Setting network parameters: [ OK ] Bringing up interface lo: [ OK ] Enabling IPv4 packet forwarding [ OK ] Bringing up interface eth0: Determining IP information for eth0... failed. [FAILED] Bringing up interface eth1: Determining IP information for eth1... failed. [FAILED] >> From jean@laptop-jean.kcco.com Thu Jun 21 08:27:10 2001 Received: from mail.kcco.com ([205.197.58.242]) by null.cc.uic.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f5LDRAj16141 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 08:27:10 -0500 Received: from laptop-jean.front.kcco.com (laptop-jean.front.kcco.com [172.19.1.200]) by mail.kcco.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1865A78AB for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 08:08:28 -0500 (CDT) Received: from laptop-jean.kcco.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by laptop-jean.front.kcco.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D29B3582AA for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 08:27:00 -0500 (CDT) From: jean@kcco.com Subject: Re: [LUNI] Technical Question: Home network setup To: luni@luni.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: <20010621132700.D29B3582AA@laptop-jean.front.kcco.com> Sender: luni-admin@luni.org Errors-To: luni-admin@luni.org X-BeenThere: luni@luni.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: luni@luni.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu Jun 21 08:28:01 2001 X-Original-Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 08:26:57 -0500 (CDT) Hi, On 21 Jun, Eric MacAdie wrote: > I am trying to set up a home LAN with 2 PCs running Mandrake 8.0. I tried > to follow the Home-Network-mini-HOWTO that is included in the docs, but I > hit a brick wall. > :::::::::::::: > DEVICE=eth0 > BOOTPROTO=dhcp ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ this one is probalby ok, since you didn't explicitly set an ip address and probably do want to be setting it via dhcp, per your service providor's instructions. > NETMASK=255.255.255.0 > ONBOOT=yes > :::::::::::::: > ifcfg-eth1 > :::::::::::::: > DEVICE=eth1 > BOOTPROTO=dhcp ^^^^^^ this one is probably wrong, and should be set to manual. I've found linuxconf under Mandrake 7.x and 8.0 to be the easiest way to change and maintain these settings (type linuxconf from within an xterminal). > IPADDR=192.168.1.1 ^^^^ here you've explicitly set the ip address to 192.168.1.1, but above you're configured to set it using DHCP. This is why I think your dhcp setting above is wrong. > NETMASK=255.255.255.0 > ONBOOT=yes It looks like you are configured to assign ip addresses via DHCP on both your external (internet) card and your internal (home network) card. From the looks of it though you don't want to be configured to use DHCP on your eth1 card, as you've also assigned it an ip address explicitly. Go into linuxconf and change the setting for eth1 from dhcp to manual and it should work. Jean. From kgarner@kgarner.com Thu Jun 21 08:44:40 2001 Received: from mail.kgarner.com (iron.kgarner.com [64.81.136.30]) by null.cc.uic.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f5LDiej16495 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 08:44:40 -0500 Received: by mail.kgarner.com (Postfix, from userid 500) id 372F29FD98; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 08:44:40 -0500 (CDT) From: "Keith T. Garner" To: luni@luni.org Subject: Re: [LUNI] Question about Linuxfest ... Message-ID: <20010621084440.A3594@nickel.kgarner.com> Mail-Followup-To: luni@luni.org References: <002401c0f9fd$9d936aa0$0dc0c0c0@salsman3> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <002401c0f9fd$9d936aa0$0dc0c0c0@salsman3>; from michael.salsman@bea.com on Wed, Jun 20, 2001 at 09:55:20PM -0500 X-If-I-Knew-Better-I-Would-Not-Be-Running: Linux 2.2.19 i586 X-Days-until-wedding: 65 days, 7 hours, 16 minutes, 56 seconds X-Phase-of-Moon: The Moon is New X-Uptime: 8:43am up 18:32, 7 users, load average: 0.02, 0.04, 0.00 X-The-Amount-Of-Stuff-In-My-Inbox: 59 Sender: luni-admin@luni.org Errors-To: luni-admin@luni.org X-BeenThere: luni@luni.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: luni@luni.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu Jun 21 08:45:10 2001 X-Original-Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 08:44:40 -0500 On Wed, Jun 20, 2001 at 09:55:20, Michael Salsman said: > I am thinking about apache/tomcat/postgresql for the web site, but > will want to pick the resident expert's brains during the installfest > ... If you're gonna run tomcat, you're going to want more then 32 meg. Tomcat (mostly thanks to java) is a huge memory pig. I've only got one small JSP tag running right at this moment, and tomcat is taking 14 meg or so. Basically, for anything java, you want at least 128 meg of ram. Keith -- Keith T. Garner kgarner@kgarner.com "Yea though I walk through the valley of point-and-click, I will fear no command line: for UNIX art with me; thy kernel and thy shell they comfort me." From maney@pobox.com Thu Jun 21 09:06:58 2001 Received: from gateway.two14.net (postfix@dsl-216-227-9-9.telocity.com [216.227.9.9]) by null.cc.uic.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f5LE6vj16755 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 09:06:57 -0500 Received: from wheel.two14.net (wheel.two14.net [172.31.1.2]) by gateway.two14.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6497859B8 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 09:06:57 -0500 (CDT) Received: from furrr.two14.net [172.31.1.5] (postfix) by wheel.two14.net with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 15D56n-00032a-00; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 09:06:57 -0500 Received: by furrr.two14.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 1174B1D85B; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 09:06:57 -0500 (CDT) To: luni@luni.org Subject: Re: [LUNI] are we back? Message-ID: <20010621090657.B18733@furrr.two14.net> References: <01062022583000.20691@aesir> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from seva@sevatech.com on Wed, Jun 20, 2001 at 11:08:21PM -0500 From: maney@pobox.com (Martin Maney) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by null.cc.uic.edu id f5LE6vj16755 Sender: luni-admin@luni.org Errors-To: luni-admin@luni.org X-BeenThere: luni@luni.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: luni@luni.org X-Reply-To: maney@pobox.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu Jun 21 09:07:13 2001 X-Original-Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 09:06:57 -0500 On Wed, Jun 20, 2001 at 11:08:21PM -0500, Simon L. Epsteyn wrote: > On Wed, 20 Jun 2001, Sten Turpin wrote: > > > I've got about 1000 files with funky characters in the names (spaces, commas, > > parentahsis, etc) that I need to strip out. I'm trying to script it, but it's > > late and I think I'm missing something. Anyone done this before? Thanks! > > -Sten > > I have a script that may be of use, I use it to fix some of the mp3 > filenames, but it's an easy way to rename using regexp as well.. > > $ touch "test^G1" "test^H2" "test^K3" > $ ls > test?1 test?2 test?3 > $ rmv -r "s/[^A-Za-z0-9]/_/" * > $ ls > test_1 test_2 test_3 > $ Or for those without the peculiar "rmv" command, it might look somthing like this: $ touch test\ 1 test\?2 test\^3 $ ls test 1 test?2 test^3 $ for old in * > do new=`echo -n "$old" | tr -c "A-Za-z0-9" "_"` > mv "$old" $new > done $ ls test_1 test_2 test_3 This will produce a harmless warning of the form mv: `test_1' and`test_1' are the same file for any files whose names didn't contain "odd" characters to begin with. It is also not safe against name collisions, and may overwrite a file with the same original or revised name. Using a tmp directory for the output removes the original name overwriting (mv "$old" tmp/$new) but not the result name collisions. I seem to recall that in the early versions mv would not overwrite by default, but that seems to have changed. It's not really a problem with an algorithmic solution, so perhaps the best option would be to add the -i option to the mv command: $ ls test 1 test?2 test^3 test~2 $ for old in * [...] mv: overwrite est_2'? n $ ls test_1 test_2 test_3 test~2 There may still be some odd characters that break this script: I just found one that caused a problem I had overlooked (it was reparied by quoting $old in the echo that feeds tr). Caveat usuor. :-) -- You arguably have quite a few inalienable rights, but being taken seriously isn't one of them. Neither is being respected. -- Rick Moen From maney@pobox.com Thu Jun 21 09:10:44 2001 Received: from gateway.two14.net (postfix@dsl-216-227-9-9.telocity.com [216.227.9.9]) by null.cc.uic.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f5LEAhj16913 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 09:10:43 -0500 Received: from wheel.two14.net (wheel.two14.net [172.31.1.2]) by gateway.two14.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A84D59B8 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 09:10:43 -0500 (CDT) Received: from furrr.two14.net [172.31.1.5] (postfix) by wheel.two14.net with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 15D5AR-00032f-00; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 09:10:43 -0500 Received: by furrr.two14.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 480E91D85B; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 09:10:43 -0500 (CDT) To: luni@luni.org Subject: Re: [LUNI] Question about Linuxfest ... Message-ID: <20010621091043.C18733@furrr.two14.net> References: <002401c0f9fd$9d936aa0$0dc0c0c0@salsman3> <20010621084440.A3594@nickel.kgarner.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010621084440.A3594@nickel.kgarner.com>; from kgarner@kgarner.com on Thu, Jun 21, 2001 at 08:44:40AM -0500 From: maney@pobox.com (Martin Maney) Sender: luni-admin@luni.org Errors-To: luni-admin@luni.org X-BeenThere: luni@luni.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: luni@luni.org X-Reply-To: maney@pobox.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu Jun 21 09:11:12 2001 X-Original-Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 09:10:43 -0500 On Thu, Jun 21, 2001 at 08:44:40AM -0500, Keith T. Garner wrote: > Basically, for anything java, you want at least 128 meg of ram. "Write once, run anywhere" my horse's behind! Thanks, this explains a lot about java. :-/ -- We reject kings, presidents, and voting. We believe in rough consensus and running code. -- David Clarke From kgarner@kgarner.com Thu Jun 21 09:25:42 2001 Received: from mail.kgarner.com (iron.kgarner.com [64.81.136.30]) by null.cc.uic.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f5LEPfj17172 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 09:25:42 -0500 Received: by mail.kgarner.com (Postfix, from userid 500) id 528099FD98; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 09:25:42 -0500 (CDT) From: "Keith T. Garner" To: luni@luni.org Subject: Re: [LUNI] Question about Linuxfest ... Message-ID: <20010621092542.B3683@nickel.kgarner.com> Mail-Followup-To: luni@luni.org References: <002401c0f9fd$9d936aa0$0dc0c0c0@salsman3> <20010621084440.A3594@nickel.kgarner.com> <20010621091043.C18733@furrr.two14.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010621091043.C18733@furrr.two14.net>; from maney@pobox.com on Thu, Jun 21, 2001 at 09:10:43AM -0500 X-If-I-Knew-Better-I-Would-Not-Be-Running: Linux 2.2.19 i586 X-Days-until-wedding: 65 days, 6 hours, 36 minutes, 27 seconds X-Phase-of-Moon: The Moon is New X-Uptime: 9:23am up 19:12, 4 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 X-The-Amount-Of-Stuff-In-My-Inbox: 58 Sender: luni-admin@luni.org Errors-To: luni-admin@luni.org X-BeenThere: luni@luni.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: luni@luni.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu Jun 21 09:26:11 2001 X-Original-Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 09:25:42 -0500 On Thu, Jun 21, 2001 at 09:10:43, Martin Maney said: > On Thu, Jun 21, 2001 at 08:44:40AM -0500, Keith T. Garner wrote: > > Basically, for anything java, you want at least 128 meg of ram. > > "Write once, run anywhere" my horse's behind! Thanks, this explains a lot > about java. :-/ Run anywhere with a lot of RAM. :) I'm talking about the traditional Java SDK. The Mobile edition is supposed to be smaller, but I haven't played with it yet. Its just never been that friendly to a small memory footprint for whatever reason. Java is a great language and a great idea, it just hasn't hit a level of maturity that I think it needs to hit, especially on the "client side." I love it for server side development, especially web stuff. Keith -- Keith T. Garner kgarner@kgarner.com "Yea though I walk through the valley of point-and-click, I will fear no command line: for UNIX art with me; thy kernel and thy shell they comfort me." From blazerw@yahoo.com Thu Jun 21 09:44:28 2001 Received: from linux.chicor.com ([209.242.57.138]) by null.cc.uic.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f5LEiSj17466 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 09:44:28 -0500 Received: from devwkst10 (dev-wkst10.chicor.com [10.10.0.60]) by linux.chicor.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA05139 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 11:10:24 -0400 Message-ID: <00cf01c0fa60$c4645cd0$3c000a0a@scc> From: "Randall Wilson" To: References: Subject: Re: [LUNI] Technical Question: Home network setup MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: luni-admin@luni.org Errors-To: luni-admin@luni.org X-BeenThere: luni@luni.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: luni@luni.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu Jun 21 09:45:01 2001 X-Original-Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 09:45:07 -0500 I found Mandrake 8.0's networking configuration tools to be pretty impressive. Have you tried just using their config tools. I don't have 8.0 installed right now, so I can't remember the tool names. -rw ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric MacAdie" To: Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 12:11 AM Subject: [LUNI] Technical Question: Home network setup > I am trying to set up a home LAN with 2 PCs running Mandrake 8.0. I tried > to follow the Home-Network-mini-HOWTO that is included in the docs, but I > hit a brick wall. > > ifconfig eth* works for all 3 NIC cards on both machines. > > I got through section 3.1. Although my cards are identical, I did not add > any addresses or IRQ info to /etc/modules.conf because I have PCI cards. > > For section 3.2, I edited /etc/sysconfig/network and /etc/sysctl.conf as > directed in the HOWTO on the PC that will be the router. I also edited the > /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth* files (see below). Then I ran > /etc/rc.d/init.d/network restart > and got an error: could not determine IP information for either card. > > What did I do wrong? > Here are a few mores and the result of /etc/rc.d/init.d/network: > ----------- > [root@local01 network-scripts]# more /etc/modules.conf > pre-install pcmcia_core CARDMGR_OPTS=-f /etc/rc.d/init.d/pcmcia start > alias usb-interface usb-uhci > alias eth0 natsemi > alias eth1 natsemi > alias sound-slot-0 sb > > [root@local01 network-scripts]# more > /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-* > :::::::::::::: > ifcfg-eth0 > :::::::::::::: > DEVICE=eth0 > BOOTPROTO=dhcp > NETMASK=255.255.255.0 > ONBOOT=yes > :::::::::::::: > ifcfg-eth1 > :::::::::::::: > DEVICE=eth1 > BOOTPROTO=dhcp > IPADDR=192.168.1.1 > NETMASK=255.255.255.0 > ONBOOT=yes > :::::::::::::: > ifcfg-eth1~ > :::::::::::::: > DEVICE=eth1 > BOOTPROTO=dhcp > NETMASK=255.255.255.0 > ONBOOT=yes > :::::::::::::: > ifcfg-lo > :::::::::::::: > DEVICE=lo > IPADDR=127.0.0.1 > NETMASK=255.0.0.0 > NETWORK=127.0.0.0 > # If you're having problems with gated making 127.0.0.0/8 a martian, > # you can change this to something else (255.255.255.255, for example) > BROADCAST=127.255.255.255 > ONBOOT=yes > NAME=loopback > [root@local01 network-scripts]# /etc/rc.d/init.d/network restart > Setting network parameters: [ OK ] > Bringing up interface lo: [ OK ] > Enabling IPv4 packet forwarding [ OK ] > Bringing up interface eth0: Determining IP information for eth0... > failed. > [FAILED] > Bringing up interface eth1: Determining IP information for eth1... > failed. > [FAILED] > > > EKMacAdie > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > luni@luni.org > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni From Stephen.Boulet@motorola.com Thu Jun 21 09:48:29 2001 Received: from motgate2.mot.com (motgate2.mot.com [136.182.1.10]) by null.cc.uic.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f5LEmTj17554 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 09:48:29 -0500 Received: [from pobox2.mot.com (pobox2.mot.com [136.182.15.8]) by motgate2.mot.com (motgate2 2.1) with ESMTP id HAA18102 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 07:48:29 -0700 (MST)] Received: [from il02exi02.comm.mot.com (il02exi02.comm.mot.com [145.1.204.41]) by pobox2.mot.com (MOT-pobox2 2.0) with ESMTP id HAA04196 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 07:48:28 -0700 (MST)] Received: by il02exi02.comm.mot.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 09:48:28 -0500 Message-ID: From: Boulet Stephen-CSB046 To: "'luni@luni.org'" Subject: RE: [LUNI] Technical Question: Home network setup MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: luni-admin@luni.org Errors-To: luni-admin@luni.org X-BeenThere: luni@luni.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: luni@luni.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu Jun 21 09:49:07 2001 X-Original-Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 09:48:27 -0500 What I did when I had two of the same ethernet cards under Mandrake 7.2 was to look in the system info section under KDE and find the IRQs for the cards. Then in LinuxConf you can use one of the IRQs for ETH0 and the other for ETH1. You can do the same thing using webmin. -- Stephen From SThomaso@hii.com Thu Jun 21 10:24:19 2001 Received: from hcna11.hii.com (hcna11.hii.com [139.69.108.3]) by null.cc.uic.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id f5LFOIj18020 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 10:24:19 -0500 Received: from 139.69.2.32 by hcna11.hii.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Thu, 21 Jun 2001 10:23:48 -0500 (Central Daylight Time) Received: from harnco-Message_Server by HCNA01 with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 10:24:14 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5.3 From: "Scott Thomason" To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by null.cc.uic.edu id f5LFOIj18020 Subject: [LUNI] KVM'ed mouse won't work under RH71? Sender: luni-admin@luni.org Errors-To: luni-admin@luni.org X-BeenThere: luni@luni.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: luni@luni.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu Jun 21 10:25:01 2001 X-Original-Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 10:24:03 -0500 Greets. I have a tiny Linksys KVM between a Win98 machine and a Linux box. Previously, I ran RH62, and the KVM worked great. I recently switched to RH71, and now the mouse won't work. I have powered off in between. Any ideas why a formerly-functioning KVM won't work under stock RH71? A kernel difference, perhaps? ---scott From tedsanders@peoplepc.com Thu Jun 21 10:51:52 2001 Received: from c002.snv.cp.net (c002-h007.c002.snv.cp.net [209.228.32.171]) by null.cc.uic.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id f5LFpqj18328 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 10:51:52 -0500 Received: (cpmta 18508 invoked from network); 21 Jun 2001 08:51:46 -0700 Received: from 1Cust57.tnt1.waukegan.il.da.uu.net (HELO tedsanders) (65.227.183.57) by smtp.peoplepc.com (209.228.32.171) with SMTP; 21 Jun 2001 08:51:46 -0700 X-Sent: 21 Jun 2001 15:51:46 GMT Message-ID: <003c01c0fa69$ea54a5e0$39b7e341@tedsanders> From: "Ted Sanders" To: References: <000801c0fa52$eda66060$da96c126@geodesic.com> Subject: Re: [LUNI] ANN: Welcome to new list(s) and luni.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: luni-admin@luni.org Errors-To: luni-admin@luni.org X-BeenThere: luni@luni.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: luni@luni.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu Jun 21 10:52:02 2001 X-Original-Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 10:50:35 -0500 Amen! Have a Good Day! visit my website tedlshome.com In Friendship Ted Sanders From dexter@dns.ci.columbia.mo.us Thu Jun 21 10:56:02 2001 Received: from dns.ci.columbia.mo.us (IDENT:root@dns.ci.columbia.mo.us [204.185.42.253]) by null.cc.uic.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f5LFu2j18432 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 10:56:02 -0500 Received: from dns.ci.columbia.mo.us (IDENT:dexter@dns.ci.columbia.mo.us [204.185.42.253]) by dns.ci.columbia.mo.us (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA18863 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 09:41:35 -0500 From: Chris To: luni@luni.org Subject: Re: [LUNI] LUNI Status update In-Reply-To: <3B313F17.280EC662@chicagoarea.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: luni-admin@luni.org Errors-To: luni-admin@luni.org X-BeenThere: luni@luni.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: luni@luni.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu Jun 21 10:57:01 2001 X-Original-Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 09:41:35 -0500 (CDT) You PHP-Nuke types fail to realize that Zope rules the wasteland! ;) But seriously Zope + CMF can be used to create a community site out of the box. CMF 1.1 just shipped with a Calendar class that can be used for announcing LUG meetings, etc. On Wed, 20 Jun 2001, Scott wrote: > Brian and I were thinking about setting up a PHP-Nuke site LUNI could use... > > Simon L. Epsteyn wrote: > > > Designing/making/maintaining the web page sort of help ;) > > > > I don't know what that really means just yet, I am thinking of making > > luni-www list for everyone interested in helping. > > > > /Simon > > > > On Wed, 20 Jun 2001, NCS wrote: > > > > > What sort of help do you need > > > > > > Dave > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > > luni@luni.org > > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni > > ______________________________________________________________________ > Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > luni@luni.org > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni > --------------------------------------------------------------------- | Poindexter | nerd-labs.com - The Revolution will be hypothesized. | --------------------------------------------------------------------- From seva@sevatech.com Thu Jun 21 10:58:36 2001 Received: from localhost (seva@localhost) by null.cc.uic.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f5LFwa918519 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 10:58:36 -0500 From: "Simon L. Epsteyn" X-X-Sender: To: Subject: Re: [LUNI] LUNI Status update In-Reply-To: Message-ID: X-Foo: Bar MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: luni-admin@luni.org Errors-To: luni-admin@luni.org X-BeenThere: luni@luni.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: luni@luni.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu Jun 21 10:59:15 2001 X-Original-Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 10:58:36 -0500 (CDT) I've never heard of either.. Are there any demos of this stuff out there? /Simon On Thu, 21 Jun 2001, Chris wrote: > > You PHP-Nuke types fail to realize that Zope rules the wasteland! ;) But > seriously Zope + CMF can be used to create a community site out of the > box. CMF 1.1 just shipped with a Calendar class that can be used for > announcing LUG meetings, etc. > > On Wed, 20 Jun 2001, Scott wrote: > > > Brian and I were thinking about setting up a PHP-Nuke site LUNI could use... > > > > Simon L. Epsteyn wrote: > > > > > Designing/making/maintaining the web page sort of help ;) > > > > > > I don't know what that really means just yet, I am thinking of making > > > luni-www list for everyone interested in helping. > > > > > > /Simon > > > > > > On Wed, 20 Jun 2001, NCS wrote: > > > > > > > What sort of help do you need > > > > > > > > Dave > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > > Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > > > luni@luni.org > > > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > > luni@luni.org > > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > | Poindexter | nerd-labs.com - The Revolution will be hypothesized. | > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > luni@luni.org > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni > -- seva@sevatech.com http://sevatech.com From lance@honeynet.org Thu Jun 21 11:00:44 2001 Received: from marge.spitzner.net (1.lspitz.soho.enteract.com [216.80.71.97]) by null.cc.uic.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f5LG0hj18649 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 11:00:43 -0500 Received: from localhost (lance@localhost) by marge.spitzner.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA08233 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 11:00:51 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: marge.spitzner.net: lance owned process doing -bs From: Lance Spitzner X-Sender: To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [LUNI] burning multiple CDs Sender: luni-admin@luni.org Errors-To: luni-admin@luni.org X-BeenThere: luni@luni.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: luni@luni.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu Jun 21 11:01:15 2001 X-Original-Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 11:00:51 -0500 (CDT) Okay, Just burned a CD. Now I need about 250-300 more copies. Any recommendations on where I can get multiple copies made (preferable including the CDROM label :) Thanks! -- Lance Spitzner http://project.honeynet.org From SThomaso@hii.com Thu Jun 21 11:21:53 2001 Received: from hcna11.hii.com (hcna11.hii.com [139.69.108.3]) by null.cc.uic.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id f5LGLrj19016 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 11:21:53 -0500 Received: from 139.69.2.32 by hcna11.hii.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Thu, 21 Jun 2001 11:21:24 -0500 (Central Daylight Time) Received: from harnco-Message_Server by HCNA01 with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 11:21:49 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5.3 From: "Scott Thomason" To: Subject: Re: [LUNI] LUNI Status update Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by null.cc.uic.edu id f5LGLrj19016 Sender: luni-admin@luni.org Errors-To: luni-admin@luni.org X-BeenThere: luni@luni.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: luni@luni.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu Jun 21 11:22:01 2001 X-Original-Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 11:21:43 -0500 If you've never heard of Zope, it's because you (correctly!) favor Perl over Python. But seriously, Zope is a good product that has received a lot of press. I believe Bruce Perens is a big supporter of it as well, if that matters to you. ---scott >>> seva@sevatech.com 06/21/01 10:58AM >>> I've never heard of either.. Are there any demos of this stuff out there? /Simon On Thu, 21 Jun 2001, Chris wrote: > > You PHP-Nuke types fail to realize that Zope rules the wasteland! ;) But > seriously Zope + CMF can be used to create a community site out of the > box. CMF 1.1 just shipped with a Calendar class that can be used for > announcing LUG meetings, etc. > > On Wed, 20 Jun 2001, Scott wrote: > > > Brian and I were thinking about setting up a PHP-Nuke site LUNI could use... > > > > Simon L. Epsteyn wrote: > > > > > Designing/making/maintaining the web page sort of help ;) > > > > > > I don't know what that really means just yet, I am thinking of making > > > luni-www list for everyone interested in helping. > > > > > > /Simon > > > > > > On Wed, 20 Jun 2001, NCS wrote: > > > > > > > What sort of help do you need > > > > > > > > Dave > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > > Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > > > luni@luni.org > > > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > > luni@luni.org > > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > | Poindexter | nerd-labs.com - The Revolution will be hypothesized. | > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > luni@luni.org > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni > -- seva@sevatech.com http://sevatech.com ______________________________________________________________________ Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion luni@luni.org http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni From knura@yahoo.com Thu Jun 21 11:55:55 2001 Received: from c002.snv.cp.net (c002-h001.c002.snv.cp.net [209.228.32.165]) by null.cc.uic.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id f5LGttj19381 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 11:55:55 -0500 Received: (cpmta 8748 invoked from network); 21 Jun 2001 09:55:51 -0700 Received: from 1Cust213.tnt2.naperville.il.da.uu.net (HELO kaveri.soho.lan) (63.42.204.213) by smtp.peoplepc.com (209.228.32.165) with SMTP; 21 Jun 2001 09:55:51 -0700 X-Sent: 21 Jun 2001 16:55:51 GMT Received: from yahoo.com ([192.168.2.141]) by kaveri.soho.lan (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA26603 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 11:53:08 -0500 Message-ID: <3B322679.8F34FD12@yahoo.com> From: Arun Khan X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.18 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: luni@luni.org Subject: Re: [LUNI] KVM'ed mouse won't work under RH71? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: luni-admin@luni.org Errors-To: luni-admin@luni.org X-BeenThere: luni@luni.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: luni@luni.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu Jun 21 11:56:08 2001 X-Original-Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 11:53:13 -0500 Scott Thomason wrote: > > Greets. I have a tiny Linksys KVM between a Win98 machine and a Linux box. Previously, I ran RH62, and the KVM worked great. I recently switched to RH71, and now the mouse won't work. I have powered off in between. Any ideas why a formerly-functioning KVM won't work under stock RH71? A kernel difference, perhaps? > ---scott My experience with KVM and mouse lock ups - ensure, all cables are connected snug and proper. If cables OK, then possibly one of the machines on the KVM is hiccuping e.g. GUI locked up. Power off all machines and bring them online one at a time. If problem persists, then try switching back to RH62 or if possible replace it with another machine. If problem persists, the KVM may have gone sour on you. -- Arun K. From k9yo@ix.netcom.com Thu Jun 21 12:59:39 2001 Received: from blount.mail.mindspring.net (blount.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.226]) by null.cc.uic.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f5LHxcj20040 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 12:59:38 -0500 Received: from smui01.slb.mindspring.net (smui01.slb.mindspring.net [199.174.114.21]) by blount.mail.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA10807 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 13:59:42 -0400 (EDT) From: k9yo@ix.netcom.com Received: by smui01.slb.mindspring.net id NAA0000009787; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 13:59:42 -0400 (EDT) To: luni@luni.org Subject: Re: Re: [LUNI] Question about Linuxfest ... Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: 206.66.66.9 Sender: luni-admin@luni.org Errors-To: luni-admin@luni.org X-BeenThere: luni@luni.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: luni@luni.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu Jun 21 13:00:01 2001 X-Original-Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 13:59:42 -0400 I just had to chip in my .02 worth :-) Java is truly write once, run anywhere. BUT, the makers of Java and the industry has decided maybe not on client computing platforms. Java is thunderous on the server side, and with the advent of JDK 1.4, and it's ability to now make native OS calls, data can be processed a LOT faster than before. Some of the data manipulation features in JDK 1.4 are *supposedly* going to rival C++'s speed. I have yet to try this out, but I do have a couple of 600MB files that I would like to setup and benchmark, whenever I get the time. Java for the Palm/Wireless: Screams here too. The wireless Palm client I wrote to interact with some systems I have at home is very fast, and only uses the Connected Limited Device Configuration and the MIDP spec from Sun (www.java.sun.com/j2me) I think it is common fact that "fat client" java applets are not the norm anymore. If you want screaming performance, the J2EE spec seems to be the way to go. Plus, there's some interesting talk in the Jini reflector (I don't know how many of you subscribe to it), but there are a few people experimenting with this Java-based technology over wireless devices and bluetooth. Ok, I'm finished... Sometimes I can get carried away over the potential of these new technologies.. -Cedrick "JavaDude" luni@luni.org wrote: > On Thu, Jun 21, 2001 at 09:10:43, Martin Maney said: > On Thu, Jun 21, 2001 at 08:44:40AM -0500, Keith T. Garner wrote: > > Basically, for anything java, you want at least 128 meg of ram. > > "Write once, run anywhere" my horse's behind! Thanks, this explains a lot > about java. :-/ Run anywhere with a lot of RAM. :) I'm talking about the traditional Java SDK. The Mobile edition is supposed to be smaller, but I haven't played with it yet. Its just never been that friendly to a small memory footprint for whatever reason. Java is a great language and a great idea, it just hasn't hit a level of maturity that I think it needs to hit, especially on the "client side." I love it for server side development, especially web stuff. Keith -- Keith T. Garner kgarner@kgarner.com "Yea though I walk through the valley of point-and-click, I will fear no command line: for UNIX art with me; thy kernel and thy shell they comfort me." ______________________________________________________________________ Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion luni@luni.org http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni From ncs@mcs.net Thu Jun 21 18:18:37 2001 Received: from bnfep01.boone.winstar.net (bnfep01w.boone.winstar.net [63.140.240.51]) by null.cc.uic.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f5LNIaj23481 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 18:18:37 -0500 Received: from ncs ([205.164.12.175]) by bnfep01.boone.winstar.net with SMTP id <20010621231838.DTNP450.bnfep01@ncs> for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 19:18:38 -0400 Message-ID: <001001c0faa9$cf420000$af0ca4cd@ncs> From: "NCS" To: References: Subject: Re: [LUNI] LUNI Status update MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: luni-admin@luni.org Errors-To: luni-admin@luni.org X-BeenThere: luni@luni.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: luni@luni.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu Jun 21 18:19:01 2001 X-Original-Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 18:27:59 -0500 Simon, I can certainly help with that. I am currently working as a web developer and have worked with UNIX systems. Please feel free to contact me for assistance. Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: Simon L. Epsteyn To: Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 7:13 PM Subject: Re: [LUNI] LUNI Status update > Designing/making/maintaining the web page sort of help ;) > > I don't know what that really means just yet, I am thinking of making > luni-www list for everyone interested in helping. > > /Simon > > On Wed, 20 Jun 2001, NCS wrote: > > > What sort of help do you need > > > > Dave > > ______________________________________________________________________ > Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > luni@luni.org > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni From wiggles@xnet.com Thu Jun 21 21:04:45 2001 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by null.cc.uic.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f5M24jj25584 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 21:04:45 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id VAA17150 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 21:04:48 -0500 (CDT) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 5049) id 864B93869B; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 21:04:48 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AB8435DAA for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 21:04:48 -0500 (CDT) From: Tim Wielgos To: Chicago Linux Users Group Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [LUNI] 13w3 cables? Sender: luni-admin@luni.org Errors-To: luni-admin@luni.org X-BeenThere: luni@luni.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: luni@luni.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu Jun 21 21:05:14 2001 X-Original-Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 21:04:48 -0500 (CDT) Hey all-- I recently acquired a couple of older SGI's with monitors which use 13w3 video cables, but they have no cables. Does anyone have a couple of extras laying around they'd be willing to part with? I'd pay any reasonable price, of course. TIA, Tim *************************************************************************** * Timothy Wielgos * "I believe in Christianity as I * * Computer Technician, aspiring * believe that the sun rises. Not * * world dictator. * because I see it, but by it I can * * wiggles@xnet.com * see everything else" * * wiggles@death-star.com * --C.S. Lewis * * http://bobcat.bradley.edu/~wiggles * * * AIM: Weeglos * * *************************************************************************** "An infinite number of monkies pounding on typewriters could turn out Shakespeare. Microsoft? Sixteen monkeys sharing a fountain pen and a case of beer. Take away the pen and you've got ZDNet." --Anonymously posted on http://slashdot.org From Jkaplenk@aol.com Thu Jun 21 21:31:56 2001 Received: from imo-m08.mx.aol.com (imo-m08.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.163]) by null.cc.uic.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f5M2Vuj25906 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 21:31:56 -0500 Received: from Jkaplenk@aol.com by imo-m08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v30.22.) id p.f2.be187c7 (16789) for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 22:31:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Jkaplenk@aol.com Message-ID: Subject: Re: [LUNI] 13w3 cables? To: luni@luni.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_f2.be187c7.28640818_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10523 Sender: luni-admin@luni.org Errors-To: luni-admin@luni.org X-BeenThere: luni@luni.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: luni@luni.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu Jun 21 21:32:08 2001 X-Original-Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 22:31:52 EDT --part1_f2.be187c7.28640818_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I picked up a 13w3 cable at Crash Electronics on Roosevelt Rd. in Villa Park for $20 a few months ago. This is the former Nutron Electronics. Joe Kaplenk In a message dated 6/21/01 9:07:17 PM Central Daylight Time, wiggles@xnet.com writes: > Subj:[LUNI] 13w3 cables? > Date:6/21/01 9:07:17 PM Central Daylight Time > From: wiggles@xnet.com (Tim Wielgos) > Sender: luni-admin@luni.org > Reply-to: luni@luni.org > To: luni@luni.org (Chicago Linux Users Group) > > > > > Hey all-- > > I recently acquired a couple of older SGI's with monitors which use 13w3 > video cables, but they have no cables. Does anyone have a couple of > extras laying around they'd be willing to part with? I'd pay any > reasonable price, of course. > > TIA, > Tim > > *************************************************************************** > * Timothy Wielgos * "I believe in Christianity as I * > * Computer Technician, aspiring * believe that the sun rises. Not * > * world dictator. * because I see it, but by it I can * > * wiggles@xnet.com * see everything else" * > * wiggles@death-star.com * --C.S. Lewis * > * http://bobcat.bradley.edu/~wiggles * * > * AIM: Weeglos * * > *************************************************************************** > "An infinite number of monkies pounding on typewriters could turn out > Shakespeare. Microsoft? Sixteen monkeys sharing a fountain pen and a > case of beer. Take away the pen and you've got ZDNet." > --Anonymously posted on http://slashdot.org > > ______________________________________________________________________ > Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > luni@luni.org > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni > > > ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- > Return-Path: > Received: from rly-yg04.mx.aol.com (rly-yg04.mail.aol.com [172.18.147.4]) > by air-yg03.mail.aol.com (v78_r3.8) with ESMTP; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 22:07:17 > -0400 > Received: from null.cc.uic.edu (null.pharm.uic.edu [128.248.76.23]) by > rly-yg04.mx.aol.com (v79.20) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYG49-0621220637; Thu, > 21 Jun 2001 22:06:37 -0400 > Received: from null.cc.uic.edu (IDENT:mailman@localhost.localdomain > [127.0.0.1]) > by null.cc.uic.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f5M25Fj25614; > Thu, 21 Jun 2001 21:05:15 -0500 > Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) > by null.cc.uic.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f5M24jj25584 > for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 21:04:45 -0500 > Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by > mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id VAA17150 for < > luni@luni.org>; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 21:04:48 -0500 (CDT) > Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 5049) > id 864B93869B; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 21:04:48 -0500 (CDT) > Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) > by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AB8435DAA > for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 21:04:48 -0500 (CDT) > From: Tim Wielgos > To: Chicago Linux Users Group > Message-ID: > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > Subject: [LUNI] 13w3 cables? > Sender: luni-admin@luni.org > Errors-To: luni-admin@luni.org > X-BeenThere: luni@luni.org > X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 > Precedence: bulk > Reply-To: luni@luni.org > List-Help: > List-Post: > List-Subscribe: , > > List-Id: Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion < > luni.luni.org> > List-Unsubscribe: , > > List-Archive: > X-Original-Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 21:04:48 -0500 (CDT) > Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 21:04:48 -0500 (CDT) > > > --part1_f2.be187c7.28640818_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I picked up a 13w3 cable at Crash Electronics on Roosevelt Rd. in Villa Park
for $20 a few months ago. This is the former Nutron Electronics.

Joe Kaplenk

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Subj:[LUNI] 13w3 cables?
Date:6/21/01 9:07:17 PM Central Daylight Time
From:    wiggles@xnet.com (Tim Wielgos)
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Hey all--

I recently acquired a couple of older SGI's with monitors which use 13w3
video cables, but they have no cables.  Does anyone have a couple of
extras laying around they'd be willing to part with?  I'd pay any
reasonable price, of course.

TIA,
Tim

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