[LUNI] Dan Frye and the Linux Technology Center

James Bliss bliss at attbi.com
Thu Mar 7 13:48:01 CST 2002


I have not run it myself.  I have run WebSphere Application Server with no 
problems.  I would think that WSAD would run also.  Hopefully there are no 
strange dependencies along the lines of header files or libraries.

I am hoping to install this myself sometime, looks like a nice suite of tools, 
but have not had the time.

Jim

03/07/02 10:11:47 AM, "Robert  Jacobsen" <rjacobsen at theocc.com> 
wrote:

>Jim,
>
>Thanks for your response.
>
>I just read a front page article in SD Times about just what we're 
discussing.
>The article emphasizes Red Hat but also mentions SuSE as an equal 
player
>along with Tubolinux. So IBM's direction seems to be to remain with these
>three players for now.
>
>I also run SuSE on my home desktop and prefer it to the others. I noticed 
that
>one of the requirements for the WSAD is Red Hat. Since SuSE uses the 
RPM
>system, does that mean I should be able to load up the WSAD Beta under
>SuSE without any problems?
>
>Thanks.
>
>RJ
>
>James Bliss wrote:
>
>> Hello Robert,
>>
>> I really could not say.  One observation is that SuSE installs applications
>> through the use of the RPM system, so virtually everything which can be
>> installed on RedHat can be installed on SuSE (with the obvious 
exceptions
>> of applications which make direct kernel calls or subsystem calls which 
may
>> differ between the two distros).
>>
>> I do know that IBM has worked very closely with SuSE in developing 
the
>> enterprise Linux solutions for the IBM S/390, RS/6000 and iSeries 
systems
>> and has certified SuSE on each of these systems.  Also, I have used
>> WebSphere with no problems on SuSE.  I have not tried DB2 for Linux
>> (Although there is a certified kernel for Oracle).  I am going to be 
installing
>> the IBM WebSphere Application Developer product as soon as time 
permits
>> (Lord knows when that may be).  Also, SuSE distributes the IBM SDK 
and
>> JRE on their CDs and it runs flawlessly on SuSE.
>>
>> I think the important portion of my initial message was that they picked
>> SuSE for the European market where SuSE has a strong a devoted
>> installed base.  RedHat has a strong and devoted installed base in the 
US.
>>
>> But to return to the the guts of your message, your guess is as good as
>> mine.  I personally prefer SuSE over the other Distros, but many of the
>> reasons are personal as opposed to being founded on hard a fast 
reasons.
>>
>> Jim
>>
>> 03/06/02 03:57:36 PM, "Robert  Jacobsen" <rjacobsen at theocc.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >James,
>> >
>> >I monitor the messages at the LUNI site and saw this message.
>> >
>> >It's interesting that SuSE has had such a close relationship with IBM,
>> >however, you find references to Red Hat all over the IBM site, 
particularly
>> >for IDE's that have a Linux version; for example the new WebSphere
>> >Application Developer product. The Beta only comes in a Red Hat 
flavor.
>> >Also, if you look at the IBM Global Services 2002 Learning Services
>> >Annual Catalog, most of the certification courses they offer, even for
>> >OS/390 have a Red Hat slant to them.
>> >
>> >What do you think? Is IBM eventually going to give SuSE the hook 
and
>> >even port the ZSeries Linux to Red Hat?
>> >
>> >Just thought I'd stir the pot!
>> >
>> >Robert Jacobsen
>> >
>> >James Bliss wrote:
>> >
>> >> IBM has a marketing agreement with SuSE Linux for their products in
>> >> Europe which run on Linux.  Also, IBM has been working very closely
>> with
>> >> SuSE and SuSE has had their flavor of linux running on the IBM
>> mainframe
>> >> for a while here.  And IBM has certified their Linux for the mainframe.
>> >>
>> >> Jim
>> >>
>> >> 03/06/02 02:59:41 PM, Martin Maney <maney at pobox.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >IBM and Linux.  It's a combination that still seems improbable, but 
it's
>> >> >unquestionably here.  Dan Frye has been involved in IBM's Liux
>> strategy
>> >> >since before IBM had a Linux strategy; currently he's the Director of 
the
>> >> >LTC.  Here he's interviewed by Consulting Times.
>> >> >
>> >> >    Our basic mission is to help make Linux better -- not
>> >> >    make Linux better for IBM products, just make Linux
>> >> >    better, period. So we have about 250 people in eight
>> >> >    countries -- 25 cities -- around the world who work all
>> >> >    in open source, as peers in the community. They're
>> >> >    working on 50-60 different projects -- all aimed at
>> >> >    making Linux better -- and most aimed at making Linux
>> >> >    better for the enterprise in particular.
>> >> >
>> >> >    
http://www.consultingtimes.com/articles/ibm/frye/fryeinterview.html
>> >> >
>> >> >--
>> >> >automation: replacing what works with something that almost works,
>> >> >but which is faster and cheaper.  - attributed to Roger Needham
>> >> >
>> >> >
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