[LUNI] Update: IDE CD burner frustrations -- Black Screen of Death

Steve Johnson steve at webninja.com
Tue Nov 19 09:28:12 CST 2002


Debian Woody, custom 2.4.19 kernel, Sony Vaio w/ 12x burner, not sure if
it's ATAPI or not, I'd assume not, since it always works fine and setup
easy.  I've used cdrecord directly, and also gcombust, and now use
eroaster(very nice).

On Mon, 2002-11-18 at 17:04, Jirsa, Jeff wrote:
> Yah, and here is what the author(s) say about ATAPI in the README.ATAPI
> file:
> 
> When cdrecord has problems with ATAPI drives on Linux this usually is a
> Linux 
> kernel problem. The Linux kernel maintainers unfortunately refuse to correct
> their current IDE driver system setup which does not support ATAPI by
> default.
> ATAPI _is_ SCSI over IDE transport. It is hard to understand why Linux still
> uses a standard driver setup that is designed for IDE CD-ROM drives made
> before 1994 (using a IDE compat mode that only allows to use the drive
> read-only) and does not handle to send SCSI commands to ATAPI drives by
> default. This makes it hard for people who just started with Linux to do
> CD-writing on Linux if they own an ATAPI drive. 
> 
> 
> Not very flattering, huh?
> 
> 
> By a show of hands/e-mails, if you use an IDE burner, 1) what Linux distro 
> do you use; 2) is it stock or did you compile the kernel 3) and/or
> cdrecord?
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Martin Maney [mailto:maney at pobox.com]
> Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 4:18 PM
> To: luni at luni.org
> Subject: Re: [LUNI] Update: IDE CD burner frustrations -- Black Screen
> of Death
> 
> 
> On Mon, Nov 18, 2002 at 03:10:44PM -0600, Steve Johnson wrote:
> > > cat /proc/scsi/scsi might be more to the point.  
> > good call
> 
> Been there, needed that, determined not to forget it... again.  :-/
> 
> > I don't think so. I believe he has an ide burner, which emulates scsi. 
> 
> Sure, that's what those are.  The ide way of naming CD drives look like
> hdc.
> 
> > on my system that's /dev/scd..  but maybe he's got something else going
> > on? 
> 
> Interesting... obviously the convention has changed somewhere along the
> quasi-evolutionary path.  The kernel module still carries the sr
> naming, but at least on Woody the sr* are symlinks to the scd*.
> 
> -- 
> To fix that one, I'd have to travel all the way back to the early eighties
> and convince the BSD design team to improve the diagnostics abilities of
> the Unix kernel in general, and of select(2) in particular.  And while I
> could certainly do that, I'm worried of the consequences - the BSD vs.
> System V split might never have happened, Unix would have ruled the world,
> we'd all be programming in awk++, and Bill Gates would be an obscure
> patent lawyer that no one had heard of.  -- Guido van Rossum
> 
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