Ronald E. Petty
repett0 at unigeek.com
Tue Aug 24 14:41:10 CDT 2004
How about upgrading the Kernel and Filesystem? Can the magic of apt-get
dist-upgrade help those?
On Tue, 24 Aug 2004, Larry Garfield wrote:
> Sounds like you used the Woody installer for Debian 3.0. That was
> cutting edge as of 3 years ago. :-) For a desktop, I recommend the
> Sarge installer, for the version of Debian that is just about to go
> stable. If you don't want to reinstall, you can easily upgrade to it
> now by changing your /etc/apt/sources.list file to say "testing" instead
> of "stable". Then run:
> # apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
> Why Debian Is Cool:
> 1) For servers, "Stable" really is. It is static for a LONG time, save
> for bug fixes, and before being declared stable it's hammered on a lot.
> On 11 (now 12) architectures. If you have a problem with a properly
> configured Stable box, you can be pretty sure it's hardware or something
> you did. :-) When a new version is declared stable (Sarge is supposed
> to be in September, I think), the command above will upgrade the whole
> system cleanly to the next version. Not even downtime unless you're
> upgrading the kernel too (which is downtime on any distro, period).
> Keeping it patched against security holes is as easy as running:
> # apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
> about once a day or so. Debian's turnaround time for security patches
> in Stable is measured in hours, in most cases.
> 2) For desktops, you get a HUGE archive of software that you can install
> with one or two commands with fully automated dependency management.
> Yes, Gentoo and Fedora now claim the same thing, but with Debian you
> don't have to wait for it to compile (good or bad, depending on your
> POV) and more importantly you have debconf.
> debconf. Debconf is the package setup script system that Debian uses.
> It's a wizard-style ncurses, dialog, Qt, or command line-based script
> that many packages use (any that require actual configuration) that lets
> you configure most parameters of the package without touching a config
> file. For instance:
> # dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86
> Gives you a wizard interface to configure your X server. No playing
> with the config file directly, and in Sarge it even does a damned good
> job of auto-detecting most settings. Yes, X installation without a
> hassle. Amazing, isn't it? :-)
> Debian also has very nice kernel management tools. You can download
> precompiled kernels, or use make-kpkg to compile a kernel from source
> and create a .deb package for it that you can install that will take
> care of all the symlinks and modules and lilo/grub and so on. Having
> been burned by older RH systems' lack of ability to compile your own
> kernel AND keep the RPM database up to date (which made installing newer
> versions of some packages impossible), this is a godsend for me.
> For a desktop, you want to run Testing or Unstable/Sid. Unstable/Sid is
> actually fairly stable, most of the time, and it's what I use for my
> main desktop. And yes, you can setup ext3 if you use a 2.4 kernel
> installer. The Woody installer includes it as an option (bf24), or the
> Sarge installer uses it by default and gives you an option of 2.6. You
> can also convert after the fact with whatever migration tools there
> usually are.
> If Woody's your only view on Debian, then yeah, it will look like it
> sucks. :-) But once you get a look at the bigger picture of Debian it
> becomes highly cool.
> Ronald E. Petty wrote:
> > I am new to Debian and was wondering a couple of things. Not to start a
> > flame war, but what is the advantage to Debian? I just got it installed,
> > messed up a couple of things on install (partitions that is, picked
> > wrong place to boot from), however I am on the net.
> > I noticed uname -a
> > Linux debian 2.2.20-idepci #1 Sat Apr 20 12:45:19 EST 2002 i686 unknown
> > So the kernel seems a bit dated, and I also noticed I installed ext2,
> > didn't see ext3 as a choice.
> > Do regular Debian users update to ex3/reiser? How about the kernel? What
> > are my options for updating these things. I can redo the whole install,
> > just wandering why it seems so dated? Is sarge coming soon? The
> > installer was very retro in feel :).
> > Thanks
> > Debian newbie
> Larry Garfield AIM: LOLG42
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