[LUNI] is this for real???

[james.bliss at comcast.net]

Yep.

I am showing my age here, but I remember when you did not have all of these security precautions.

Remember Benjamin Franklin:
“Anyone who trades liberty for security deserves neither liberty nor security”

I am always amazed - as a kid we read 1984 and thought it was far fetched - now I see it coming true...

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Frank Pittel <fwp at deepthought.com>
> On Mon, Sep 18, 2006 at 03:02:50PM -0500, Andrew Close wrote:
> > On 9/18/06, sjk <sjk at cupacoffee.net> wrote:
> > >
> > >On Mon, 18 Sep 2006, Andrew Close wrote:
> > >
> > >> http://www.abanet.org/journal/ereport/s15border.html
> > >>
> > >> i'm assuming that the American Bar Association website is legit...
> > >> --
> > >
> > >Yes -- there was some talk of this on nanog a few weeks ago. DHS has also
> > >change rules to allow them to 'inspect' laptops leaving the country. I
> > >have not heard any dtermination as to how they are going to handle
> > >encrypted data.
> > 
> > so it's slowly becoming 'You're guilty until proven innocent'...  :(
> 
> How do you figure that? When I go into a court house I have to empty
> my pockets and go through a metal detector. Same thing happens when
> I get on a plane. For as long as I can remember it was SOP to pat people
> down when going to a football game. Were we considered guilty until proven
> innocent then?
> -- 
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