From sjk at cupacoffee.net Mon Jul 2 13:02:04 2007 From: sjk at cupacoffee.net (sjk) Date: Mon Jul 2 12:02:17 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Job Posting Message-ID: <46892F8C.9030509@cupacoffee.net> We are looking for a network security engineer. Here's the official post: We seeking a qualified network security engineer to join our MSS department. onShore Networks is a 15 year old consultancy with strong ties to the Open Source movement. We provide full benefits and a business casual work environment. Qualified Candidates will posses: * At least two years experience in routing and switching deployments * An excellent knowledge of firewall management and control policies * Hands on experience in both site-to-site and client-to-site VPN deployments * A firm grasp IP protocol analysis and troubleshooting * Excellent communications skills and the desire to resolve problems Duties Include: * Performing add/drop changes to existing firewalls * Reviewing and reporting on IDS and firewall logs * Troubleshooting and resolving enterprise network issues * Responding to after hours emergencies * Planning and deploying new firewall and IDS installations Compensation: Compensation will be based upon experience and performance. Candidates should send the resume and a salary history to jobs@onshore.com for review. --- Unofficial Post -- I am seeking a thoughtful, reliable, and adaptive person who is very comfortable in Unix and Linux environments. This person should have a strong understanding of IP networking and the IP protocol suite. Some experience with Cisco and Juniper would be preferred, but I am willing to train on the Cisco and Security side. Thanks -- Steve -- ------------------------------------- http://www.auroraliberty.com sjk@cupacoffee.net No one can understand the truth until he drinks of coffee's frothy goodness. ~Sheik Abd-al-Kadir From mlabowicz at gmail.com Mon Jul 2 14:10:04 2007 From: mlabowicz at gmail.com (Michael Labowicz) Date: Mon Jul 2 13:10:08 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Freevo Presentation @ NWCLUG Message-ID: FYI - I'm presenting a short intro to the Freevo project (open source DVR and much more) at the next NWCLUG meeting, which is tomorrow (July 3rd at 7:00 pm). The meetings are held at Harper College in the "A" building. See the meetings page on the NWCLUG site for more details and directions. http://nwclug.harpercollege.edu/httpd/html/meetings.html I will try to get a demo working for the meeting, and will be around to answer any questions. -- Michael Labowicz http://www.labowicz.com/blog/ From mlabowicz at gmail.com Wed Jul 4 00:25:41 2007 From: mlabowicz at gmail.com (Michael Labowicz) Date: Tue Jul 3 23:25:52 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Google Linux Repository Message-ID: I think it's very cool that Google has put together some package repositories for their Linux products. I think it further legitimizes the platform and I hope more companies would do something like this for their products (Adobe and Yahoo come to mind). http://www.google.com/linuxrepositories/ I'm off to apt-get install google-earth! -- Michael Labowicz http://www.labowicz.com/blog/ From jvsmith at digitalmatter.us Wed Jul 4 10:27:52 2007 From: jvsmith at digitalmatter.us (Jason Smith) Date: Wed Jul 4 09:27:58 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Google Linux Repository In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1183559272.31258.15.camel@localhost> On Tue, 2007-07-03 at 23:25 -0500, Michael Labowicz wrote: > http://www.google.com/linuxrepositories/ > > I'm off to apt-get install google-earth! Did it work for you? I'm using Fedora 7 x86_64 and just getting a 404 error. Jason -- Jason Smith jvsmith at digitalmatter.us We're expecting! Sign our guest book. http://www.babiesonline.com/babies/m/mistilinn/ Nations have recently been led to borrow billions for war; no nation has ever borrowed largely for education. Probably, no nation is rich enough to pay for both war and civilization. We must make our choice; we cannot have both. ~Abraham Flexner Education is a better safeguard of liberty than a standing army. ~Edward Everett From mlabowicz at gmail.com Wed Jul 4 10:39:35 2007 From: mlabowicz at gmail.com (Michael Labowicz) Date: Wed Jul 4 09:39:39 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Google Linux Repository In-Reply-To: <1183559272.31258.15.camel@localhost> References: <1183559272.31258.15.camel@localhost> Message-ID: Good point, it seems to be down at the moment. Mike On 7/4/07, Jason Smith wrote: > > On Tue, 2007-07-03 at 23:25 -0500, Michael Labowicz wrote: > > http://www.google.com/linuxrepositories/ > > > > I'm off to apt-get install google-earth! > > Did it work for you? I'm using Fedora 7 x86_64 and just getting a 404 > error. > > Jason > -- > Jason Smith > jvsmith at digitalmatter.us > > We're expecting! Sign our guest book. > http://www.babiesonline.com/babies/m/mistilinn/ > > Nations have recently been led to borrow billions for war; > no nation has ever borrowed largely for education. Probably, > no nation is rich enough to pay for both war and civilization. > We must make our choice; we cannot have both. > ~Abraham Flexner > > Education is a better safeguard of liberty than a standing army. > ~Edward Everett > > -- > Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni > -- Michael Labowicz http://www.labowicz.com/blog/ From richard at rushlogistics.com Wed Jul 4 11:29:24 2007 From: richard at rushlogistics.com (Richard Reina) Date: Wed Jul 4 12:29:31 2007 Subject: [LUNI] SMS messaging. Message-ID: <921868.95406.qm@web604.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I am looking for a way to send text messages from a small LAN that is *NOT connected to the internet to mobile phones? I have looked briefly at gammu, but have not idea how it works or if its the best way to go. I also take it that I need to buy a GSM modem? Does anyone have any experience/advice in this are that they could share? Thanks, and happy 4th! Richard Your beliefs become your thoughts. Your thoughts become your words. Your words become your actions. Your actions become your habits. Your habits become your values. Your values become your destiny. -- Mahatma Gandhi From Penguin at waxmoustache.com Thu Jul 5 02:46:48 2007 From: Penguin at waxmoustache.com (James Velguth) Date: Thu Jul 5 01:38:07 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Compaq without a hard drive Message-ID: <468C93D8.6040507@WaxMoustache.com> Hi All My Delema... Environment: I have acquired a Compaq Deskpro PII series 6333, without a hard drive. It will boot from the CD drive but I want to put a hard drive in it. It will recognize the hard drive if I plug it into where the CD drive it but I cannot configure the hard drive properly... Problem: When I hit F10 for setup the video scrunches itself into the top 1/5th of the screen. The screen is totally unintelligible and I cannot change any settings. What I have been told: I have been told that this may be an early enough box that the cmos settings program may be on the hard drive instead of in the cmos but I have no hard drive. I have searched the Compaq website and cannot find any evidence to support this theory. The box is Deskpro series 6333. Current Status: I am kinda stuck at this point, I have no boat so right now this box is totally useless. I do want to put it to good use, slow maybe but good enough for poor folk to learn on. I Would Like: I need advice to get around the scrunched up setup screen. Thanks in advance for any help. James From r_a_smith3530 at sbcglobal.net Thu Jul 5 02:06:49 2007 From: r_a_smith3530 at sbcglobal.net (Robert Smith) Date: Thu Jul 5 03:13:37 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Compaq without a hard drive In-Reply-To: <468C93D8.6040507@WaxMoustache.com> Message-ID: <515018.31606.qm@web81305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hmm, I've had a few old EN6350's over the years, and they recognized hard drives ranging from the original 6 Giggers all the way to an 80 without a hitch. Other than the 6, the rest of the drives were aftermarket units, purchased at places like the COD show or Micro Center. The machines I played with were originally deployed out around the 1998 time frame, running Win NT4. Over the years, I loaded everything from Win98 through XP Pro (can you say SLOOOOW?), plus RedHat, Mandrake, SuSe, and Debian on them. They accepted it all, but with Linux, I seem to recall having a problem with the onboard soundcard on these machines. I hope that this information helps you out some. Rob Smith James Velguth wrote: Hi All My Delema... Environment: I have acquired a Compaq Deskpro PII series 6333, without a hard drive. It will boot from the CD drive but I want to put a hard drive in it. It will recognize the hard drive if I plug it into where the CD drive it but I cannot configure the hard drive properly... Problem: When I hit F10 for setup the video scrunches itself into the top 1/5th of the screen. The screen is totally unintelligible and I cannot change any settings. What I have been told: I have been told that this may be an early enough box that the cmos settings program may be on the hard drive instead of in the cmos but I have no hard drive. I have searched the Compaq website and cannot find any evidence to support this theory. The box is Deskpro series 6333. Current Status: I am kinda stuck at this point, I have no boat so right now this box is totally useless. I do want to put it to good use, slow maybe but good enough for poor folk to learn on. I Would Like: I need advice to get around the scrunched up setup screen. Thanks in advance for any help. James -- Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni From mark at msbrepairs.com Thu Jul 5 09:46:00 2007 From: mark at msbrepairs.com (Mark Stuart Burge) Date: Thu Jul 5 08:43:01 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Compaq without a hard drive In-Reply-To: <515018.31606.qm@web81305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <515018.31606.qm@web81305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <468CF618.1080408@msbrepairs.com> I found this web page .. http://www.karlsforums.com/compaqutils.htm Which has download links for the 'softpaq' containing three bootable floppy disks for the diagnostics and settings partition that needs to be installed on the hard drive. From luni at pyewacket.org Thu Jul 5 07:49:29 2007 From: luni at pyewacket.org (Mike Scott) Date: Thu Jul 5 08:49:37 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Compaq without a hard drive Message-ID: <20070705064929.6095274834031e3691077dcdffae0724.363d73e0f8.wbe@email.secureserver.net> The first thing you need to do is get into the BIOS setup and make sure the drive is configured and the controler is enabled. The problem is, Compaq puts their BIOS setup program on the hard drive in a small DOS partition at the beginning. I guess you can't fit all that GUI goodness into Flash. IMO if you are intimidated by the primitive BIOS setup screens, you don't have any business traipsing around in it. :-) If you go to their web site, you should be able to download a utility to re-create this utility on floppy discs (assuming you can boot from floppy). I believe it requires 2-3 1.44M floppy discs (the first being bootable) and offers the option to install it onto the hard drive to be invoked via F10 (that is, of course after you have the drive configured). If I remember correctly, you need to install this before you create any other partitions on the drive. Also, see how they like the drive jumpered. IIRC it should be jumpered to use cable select (CS) and placed on the connector designated as the primary drive on the 40 pin IDE cable. You might have to experiment with this to get the BIOS to recognize a master drive on the primary controller. Hope this helps. - Mike Scott From luni at pyewacket.org Thu Jul 5 07:56:44 2007 From: luni at pyewacket.org (Mike Scott) Date: Thu Jul 5 08:56:53 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Compaq without a hard drive Message-ID: <20070705065644.6095274834031e3691077dcdffae0724.7f8df91a37.wbe@email.secureserver.net> Forgot to include in my original email... I'm guessing this is your model: http://tinyurl.com/2samyb Or the long version: http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/SoftwareIndex.jsp?lang=en&cc=us&prodNameId=96841&prodTypeId=12454&prodSeriesId=96264&swLang=8&taskId=135&swEnvOID=14 I believe what you want is near the bottom under "Software - System Management" If not here are some more variants on this model: http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/swPfinder?query=Compaq+6333&tool=softwareCategory&lc=en&cc=us&dlc=en - Mike Scott From m.mccune at comcast.net Thu Jul 5 10:49:06 2007 From: m.mccune at comcast.net (Mike McCune) Date: Thu Jul 5 09:49:22 2007 Subject: [LUNI] ANN: No WCLUG today. Message-ID: <468D04E2.9040505@comcast.net> State Restaurant is closed for the holidays and will reopen tomorrow. See everyone next month! -- Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Announcements Mailing List http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni-announce From steven.mcgrath at chigeek.com Thu Jul 5 11:12:07 2007 From: steven.mcgrath at chigeek.com (Steven McGrath) Date: Thu Jul 5 10:12:13 2007 Subject: [LUNI] July 6th Chicago 2600 Meeting Information Message-ID: <28326b7c0707050812h41f2ec30rb7799253a2a31b2b@mail.gmail.com> The July Chicago 2600 Meeting is near! The meeting will be Friday, July 6th at the Neighborhood Boys and Girls Club and will feature much of the same usual fun that all of you have grown to expect! [Chi2600 Crypto Challange] [Presentation Information] - 9:00pm - Hax by Jaku (Jaku) - 10.00pm - Syslog (Maniac) - After hours - Wii, Music, Socializing, etc. [General Information] - Meeting Time: 7.00pm - Approx. 3-5am - Meeting Date: Friday, July 6th - Place : 2501 W Irving Park Road, Chicago - More Info : http://chicago2600.net From jvsmith at digitalmatter.us Thu Jul 5 15:05:32 2007 From: jvsmith at digitalmatter.us (Jason Smith) Date: Thu Jul 5 14:05:36 2007 Subject: [LUNI] SMS messaging. In-Reply-To: <921868.95406.qm@web604.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <921868.95406.qm@web604.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1183662332.1265.11.camel@localhost> On Wed, 2007-07-04 at 10:29 -0700, Richard Reina wrote: > I am looking for a way to send text messages from a small LAN that is *NOT connected to the internet to mobile phones? I have looked briefly at gammu, but have not idea how it works or if its the best way to go. I also take it that I need to buy a GSM modem? Does anyone have any experience/advice in this are that they could share? This is made harder without internet access. If you had internet access then you could just run an SMPP application that would communicate with a carrier's SMPP server which would allow you to send SMS messages to mobiles. Taking a quick look through the packages on my debian box if you don't have internet access it does appear you'll need a phone, most likely a GSM phone, as most of the software references SMS specifically Nokia phones. The package I'm referencing is gnokii-smsd. Good luck, Jason -- Jason Smith jvsmith at digitalmatter.us We're expecting! Sign our guest book. http://www.babiesonline.com/babies/m/mistilinn/ Nations have recently been led to borrow billions for war; no nation has ever borrowed largely for education. Probably, no nation is rich enough to pay for both war and civilization. We must make our choice; we cannot have both. ~Abraham Flexner Education is a better safeguard of liberty than a standing army. ~Edward Everett From luni at pyewacket.org Thu Jul 5 13:15:42 2007 From: luni at pyewacket.org (Mike Scott) Date: Thu Jul 5 14:15:52 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Compaq without a hard drive Message-ID: <20070705121541.6095274834031e3691077dcdffae0724.2f650e70b8.wbe@email.secureserver.net> I never saw this show up on the list, sorry if it's a repeat... I'm guessing this is your model: http://tinyurl.com/2samyb Or the long version: http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/SoftwareIndex.jsp?lang=en&cc=us&prodNameId=96841&prodTypeId=12454&prodSeriesId=96264&swLang=8&taskId=135&swEnvOID=14 I believe what you want is near the bottom under "Software - System Management" If not here are some more variants on this model: http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/swPfinder?query=Compaq+6333&tool=softwareCategory&lc=en&cc=us&dlc=en - Mike Scott From Penguin at waxmoustache.com Fri Jul 6 08:45:45 2007 From: Penguin at waxmoustache.com (James Velguth) Date: Fri Jul 6 07:36:58 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Compaq without a hard drive In-Reply-To: <20070705121541.6095274834031e3691077dcdffae0724.2f650e70b8.wbe@email.secureserver.net> References: <20070705121541.6095274834031e3691077dcdffae0724.2f650e70b8.wbe@email.secureserver.net> Message-ID: <468E3979.4050901@WaxMoustache.com> It did show up. Thank you for keeping an eye out.... Mike Scott wrote: >I never saw this show up on the list, sorry if it's a repeat... > >I'm guessing this is your model: >http://tinyurl.com/2samyb > >Or the long version: >http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/SoftwareIndex.jsp?lang=en&cc=us&prodNameId=96841&prodTypeId=12454&prodSeriesId=96264&swLang=8&taskId=135&swEnvOID=14 > >I believe what you want is near the bottom under "Software - System >Management" > >If not here are some more variants on this model: >http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/swPfinder?query=Compaq+6333&tool=softwareCategory&lc=en&cc=us&dlc=en > >- Mike Scott > > > From Penguin at waxmoustache.com Fri Jul 6 08:47:12 2007 From: Penguin at waxmoustache.com (James Velguth) Date: Fri Jul 6 07:38:20 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Compaq without a hard drive In-Reply-To: <468CF618.1080408@msbrepairs.com> References: <515018.31606.qm@web81305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <468CF618.1080408@msbrepairs.com> Message-ID: <468E39D0.2070907@WaxMoustache.com> I downloaded these files but I cannot unzip them. I browsed them and they start with PK like they are supposed to. Got any ideas? thanks Mark Stuart Burge wrote: > I found this web page .. > > http://www.karlsforums.com/compaqutils.htm > > Which has download links for the 'softpaq' containing three bootable > floppy disks for the diagnostics and settings partition that needs to > be installed on the hard drive. > From mark at msbrepairs.com Fri Jul 6 09:28:02 2007 From: mark at msbrepairs.com (Mark Stuart Burge) Date: Fri Jul 6 08:24:59 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Compaq without a hard drive In-Reply-To: <468E39D0.2070907@WaxMoustache.com> References: <515018.31606.qm@web81305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <468CF618.1080408@msbrepairs.com> <468E39D0.2070907@WaxMoustache.com> Message-ID: <468E4362.40304@msbrepairs.com> James, I am uploading the extracted folders disk1,disk2,disk3 etc to my webspace as we speak, so by the time you get this, all should have to do is go to www.msbrepairs.com/downloads and dl the contents of the 'softpaq' folder. Good luck James Velguth wrote: > I downloaded these files but I cannot unzip them. I browsed them and > they start with PK like they are supposed to. Got any ideas? > thanks > > Mark Stuart Burge wrote: > >> I found this web page .. >> >> http://www.karlsforums.com/compaqutils.htm >> >> Which has download links for the 'softpaq' containing three bootable >> floppy disks for the diagnostics and settings partition that needs to >> be installed on the hard drive. >> From mark at msbrepairs.com Fri Jul 6 10:07:45 2007 From: mark at msbrepairs.com (Mark Stuart Burge) Date: Fri Jul 6 09:04:43 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Compaq without a hard drive In-Reply-To: <468E4362.40304@msbrepairs.com> References: <515018.31606.qm@web81305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <468CF618.1080408@msbrepairs.com> <468E39D0.2070907@WaxMoustache.com> <468E4362.40304@msbrepairs.com> Message-ID: <468E4CB1.500@msbrepairs.com> Whoops, Better off just downloading : http://www.msbrepairs.com/downloads/softpaq.zip I re-compressed the extracted files, so you should have no problems extracting them. I am not much of a web developer, so for some reason, I couldn't get that download folder to list it's contents. (maybe something has changed on my host, since last time I did that) It is only a 3 meg download, so if you want me to, I can email the folders uncompressed if necessary. Mark Stuart Burge wrote: > James, > > I am uploading the extracted folders disk1,disk2,disk3 etc to my > webspace as we speak, so by the time you get this, all should have to > do is go to www.msbrepairs.com/downloads and dl the contents of the > 'softpaq' folder. > > Good luck >>> From scott at cashnetusa.com Fri Jul 6 11:29:55 2007 From: scott at cashnetusa.com (Scott Lockwood) Date: Fri Jul 6 11:00:05 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Embeded Red Hat or other Linux? Message-ID: <1183735795.6728.6.camel@scott-640m> Anyone here get these new WYSE terminal's working with Linux? I'm talking about the WYSE winterm V50 and S50 models. We want to use them (or something like them) in place of our fleet of (approx. 400ish) Dell E310/3100 machines. We're wanting to run Linux, Xorg, and FireFox on them. We've tried Debian, Ubuntu, DSL, and Slackware without much luck. We'd like to not have to custom roll our own kernel, but I suspect it may well come to that. The problem so far seems to be that the SCSI module doesn't load in time for the flash to be mounted as root. I'm pretty sure that Red Hat had some sort of nifty embeded projects going, but I can't find what I need (Tom? You out there? :-D) on their site. Puppy Linux has also been suggested. We're not tied to using these WYSE box's either, if you know if a GOOD little terminal that's like less than $350, let me know. -- W. Scott Lockwood III System Administrator From david at graniteweb.com Fri Jul 6 15:30:20 2007 From: david at graniteweb.com (David Rock) Date: Fri Jul 6 14:30:48 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Embeded Red Hat or other Linux? In-Reply-To: <1183735795.6728.6.camel@scott-640m> References: <1183735795.6728.6.camel@scott-640m> Message-ID: <20070706193020.GA11785@wdfs.graniteweb.com> * Scott Lockwood [2007-07-06 10:29]: > Anyone here get these new WYSE terminal's working with Linux? I'm > talking about the WYSE winterm V50 and S50 models. We want to use them > (or something like them) in place of our fleet of (approx. 400ish) Dell > E310/3100 machines. We're wanting to run Linux, Xorg, and FireFox on > them. We've tried Debian, Ubuntu, DSL, and Slackware without much luck. > We'd like to not have to custom roll our own kernel, but I suspect it > may well come to that. The problem so far seems to be that the SCSI > module doesn't load in time for the flash to be mounted as root. I'm > pretty sure that Red Hat had some sort of nifty embeded projects going, > but I can't find what I need (Tom? You out there? :-D) on their site. > Puppy Linux has also been suggested. We're not tied to using these WYSE > box's either, if you know if a GOOD little terminal that's like less > than $350, let me know. If you are adverse to creating your own kernel with SCSI support, what about creating an initrd with SCSI support instead? -- David Rock david@graniteweb.com From tcallawa at redhat.com Fri Jul 6 15:48:16 2007 From: tcallawa at redhat.com (Tom "spot" Callaway) Date: Fri Jul 6 14:55:02 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Embeded Red Hat or other Linux? In-Reply-To: <1183735795.6728.6.camel@scott-640m> References: <1183735795.6728.6.camel@scott-640m> Message-ID: <1183751296.3489.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Fri, 2007-07-06 at 10:29 -0500, Scott Lockwood wrote: > Anyone here get these new WYSE terminal's working with Linux? I'm > talking about the WYSE winterm V50 and S50 models. We want to use them > (or something like them) in place of our fleet of (approx. 400ish) Dell > E310/3100 machines. We're wanting to run Linux, Xorg, and FireFox on > them. We've tried Debian, Ubuntu, DSL, and Slackware without much luck. > We'd like to not have to custom roll our own kernel, but I suspect it > may well come to that. The problem so far seems to be that the SCSI > module doesn't load in time for the flash to be mounted as root. I'm > pretty sure that Red Hat had some sort of nifty embeded projects going, > but I can't find what I need (Tom? You out there? :-D) on their site. > Puppy Linux has also been suggested. We're not tied to using these WYSE > box's either, if you know if a GOOD little terminal that's like less > than $350, let me know. Red Hat does do embedded work, but on a contract basis only. However, it seems like all you need is a Linux distro that is initrd driven, Fedora/RHEL are, and they preload SCSI modules before root is mounted. You should also be able to specify extra modules (if any non-SCSI items need to be preloaded) with the mkinitrd command (again, on Fedora/RHEL for sure). ~spot From scott at cashnetusa.com Fri Jul 6 16:02:17 2007 From: scott at cashnetusa.com (Scott Lockwood) Date: Fri Jul 6 15:02:20 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Embeded Red Hat or other Linux? In-Reply-To: <1183735795.6728.6.camel@scott-640m> References: <1183735795.6728.6.camel@scott-640m> Message-ID: <1183752137.7933.12.camel@scott-640m> Thanks to everyone who replied, we'll try that! -- W. Scott Lockwood III System Administrator From yocum at fnal.gov Mon Jul 9 17:00:13 2007 From: yocum at fnal.gov (Dan Yocum) Date: Tue Jul 10 07:43:37 2007 Subject: [LUNI] thinkpad pwmgnt issue Message-ID: <4692A1DD.3050101@fnal.gov> Here are my grub options on my T41. NB: I'm not using acpi since apm works just fine on the T41: title Fedora Core (2.6.20-1.2962.fc6) root (hd0,4) kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.20-1.2962.fc6 ro root=/dev/hda6 rhgb quiet \ hdc=ide-cd \ vga=795 \ acpi=off \ apm=on \ idebus=66 \ elevator=deadline \ acpi_sleep=s3_bios \ noapic \ pci=assign-busses \ acpi=noirq initrd /initrd-2.6.20-1.2962.fc6.img Also, chkconfig acpi off; chkconfig apm on. I'm also quite happy with cpufreqd managing the CPU speed using the conservative governor. And, oh, why not - I've got the radeon driver working swell so I've got all the spiffy 3D beryl desktop pr0n^w eye candy. Cheers, Dan -- Dan Yocum Fermilab 630.840.6509 yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov Fermilab. Just zeros and ones. From tcallawa at redhat.com Tue Jul 10 10:27:08 2007 From: tcallawa at redhat.com (Tom "spot" Callaway) Date: Tue Jul 10 09:28:20 2007 Subject: [LUNI] thinkpad pwmgnt issue In-Reply-To: <4692A1DD.3050101@fnal.gov> References: <4692A1DD.3050101@fnal.gov> Message-ID: <1184077628.3490.56.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Mon, 2007-07-09 at 16:00 -0500, Dan Yocum wrote: > Here are my grub options on my T41. NB: I'm not using acpi since apm > works just fine on the T41: apm is poorly maintained in 2.6, marked for eventual deprecation. Any power management issues you're having are possibly due to unfixed bugs in apm. Might be time to switch to acpi, as newer hardware won't have apm support (and will require acpi just to boot). ~spot From netfortius at gmail.com Tue Jul 10 14:09:45 2007 From: netfortius at gmail.com (Stefmit) Date: Tue Jul 10 13:09:52 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Ubuntu server and snmpd.conf Message-ID: <200707101309.45143.stefmit@gmail.com> I have been banging my head against the wall on this one: I have an Ubuntu server (Feisty) installed, with snmpd running. A perfectly valid snmpd.conf (per man pages) and also having tried a copy from a functional other linux distro installation, is producing on my new ubuntu only: root@nprobe-ubuntu:~# netstat -na |grep 161 udp 0 0 127.0.0.1:161 0.0.0.0:* while on any other system the same smtpd.conf "produces": [root@old-probe]# netstat -na |grep 161 udp 0 0 0.0.0.0:161 0.0.0.0:* Any ideas? Thanks, -- Stef From sjk at cupacoffee.net Tue Jul 10 14:28:50 2007 From: sjk at cupacoffee.net (sjk) Date: Tue Jul 10 13:28:53 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Ubuntu server and snmpd.conf In-Reply-To: <200707101309.45143.stefmit@gmail.com> References: <200707101309.45143.stefmit@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4693CFE2.3060501@cupacoffee.net> Try starting snmpd with the interface address -- ie. snmpd x.x.x.x -Lf /var/log/snmpd.log -p /var/run/snmpd.pid My guess is that the init script is only binding to Lo Stefmit wrote: > I have been banging my head against the wall on this one: I have an Ubuntu > server (Feisty) installed, with snmpd running. A perfectly valid snmpd.conf > (per man pages) and also having tried a copy from a functional other linux > distro installation, is producing on my new ubuntu only: > > root@nprobe-ubuntu:~# netstat -na |grep 161 > udp 0 0 127.0.0.1:161 0.0.0.0:* > > while on any other system the same smtpd.conf "produces": > > [root@old-probe]# netstat -na |grep 161 > udp 0 0 0.0.0.0:161 0.0.0.0:* > > Any ideas? > Thanks, > -- Stef -- ------------------------------------- http://www.auroraliberty.com sjk@cupacoffee.net No one can understand the truth until he drinks of coffee's frothy goodness. ~Sheik Abd-al-Kadir From richard at rushlogistics.com Tue Jul 10 12:49:34 2007 From: richard at rushlogistics.com (Richard Reina) Date: Tue Jul 10 13:49:42 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Executing a command on another host? Message-ID: <668606.98795.qm@web601.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hello all, I have a program running that on one of the hosts on my small LAN that can send SMS text messages from the command line. I would like to be a able to use it from other hosts on the LAN which amounts to somehow executing a command from one host on to another. I believe I could write a script in perl that perhaps uses rsync to help me do this but I feel like there must someohow be an easier more effiecient way? Does anyone no of any? Thanks, Richard Your beliefs become your thoughts. Your thoughts become your words. Your words become your actions. Your actions become your habits. Your habits become your values. Your values become your destiny. -- Mahatma Gandhi From mknoop at uic.edu Tue Jul 10 15:10:36 2007 From: mknoop at uic.edu (Michael Knoop) Date: Tue Jul 10 14:10:43 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Executing a command on another host? In-Reply-To: <668606.98795.qm@web601.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <668606.98795.qm@web601.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.2.20070710140703.059ed3d0@mail.uic.edu> If you execute ssh on one machine and end it with a command, ssh will execute that command on the remote machine instead of starting a login shell. ssh [-1246AaCfgKkMNnqsTtVvXxY] [-b bind_address] [-c cipher_spec] [-D [bind_address:]port] [-e escape_char] [-F configfile] [-i identity_file] [-L [bind_address:]port:host:hostport] [-l login_name] [-m mac_spec] [-O ctl_cmd] [-o option] [-p port] [-R [bind_address:]port:host:hostport] [-S ctl_path] [-w local_tun[:remote_tun]] [user@]hostname [command] At 01:49 PM 7/10/07, you wrote: >Hello all, > >I have a program running that on one of the hosts on my small LAN that can >send SMS text messages from the command line. I would like to be a able >to use it from other hosts on the LAN which amounts to somehow executing a >command from one host on to another. I believe I could write a script in >perl that perhaps uses rsync to help me do this but I feel like there must >someohow be an easier more effiecient way? Does anyone no of any? > >Thanks, > >Richard > > >Your beliefs become your thoughts. Your thoughts become your words. Your >words become your actions. Your actions become your habits. Your habits >become your values. Your values become your destiny. -- Mahatma Gandhi >-- >Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion >http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni From costi at rcn.com Tue Jul 10 15:21:54 2007 From: costi at rcn.com (Constantin Gavrilescu) Date: Tue Jul 10 14:22:02 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Executing a command on another host? In-Reply-To: <668606.98795.qm@web601.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <668606.98795.qm@web601.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4693DC52.7070703@rcn.com> Richard Reina wrote: > Hello all, > > I have a program running that on one of the hosts on my small LAN that can send SMS text messages from the command line. I would like to be a able to use it from other hosts on the LAN which amounts to somehow executing a command from one host on to another. I believe I could write a script in perl that perhaps uses rsync to help me do this but I feel like there must someohow be an easier more effiecient way? Does anyone no of any? > I would make a a perl/php/bash wrapper script as a cgi and pass variables as GET paramaters from lan clients, like http://sms-sender-host/send?number=555-888-8913&message=Hope%20you%20are%20ok Be careful on escaping shell escape characters. From sfaci at cs.uic.edu Tue Jul 10 15:29:11 2007 From: sfaci at cs.uic.edu (Samir Faci) Date: Tue Jul 10 14:29:15 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Executing a command on another host? In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.2.20070710140703.059ed3d0@mail.uic.edu> References: <668606.98795.qm@web601.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <6.2.1.2.2.20070710140703.059ed3d0@mail.uic.edu> Message-ID: <9db93b0e0707101229w50d0f398y7e5e71d1d73bd46e@mail.gmail.com> in other words, something like this would work ssh user@host1 "less -f /var/log/messages" where you can replace the less command with whatever you'd need to execute On 7/10/07, Michael Knoop wrote: > If you execute ssh on one machine and end it with a command, ssh will > execute that command on the remote machine instead of starting a login shell. > > > ssh [-1246AaCfgKkMNnqsTtVvXxY] [-b bind_address] [-c cipher_spec] > [-D [bind_address:]port] [-e escape_char] [-F configfile] > [-i identity_file] [-L [bind_address:]port:host:hostport] > [-l login_name] [-m mac_spec] [-O ctl_cmd] [-o option] [-p port] > [-R [bind_address:]port:host:hostport] [-S ctl_path] > [-w local_tun[:remote_tun]] [user@]hostname [command] > > > At 01:49 PM 7/10/07, you wrote: > >Hello all, > > > >I have a program running that on one of the hosts on my small LAN that can > >send SMS text messages from the command line. I would like to be a able > >to use it from other hosts on the LAN which amounts to somehow executing a > >command from one host on to another. I believe I could write a script in > >perl that perhaps uses rsync to help me do this but I feel like there must > >someohow be an easier more effiecient way? Does anyone no of any? > > > >Thanks, > > > >Richard > > > > > >Your beliefs become your thoughts. Your thoughts become your words. Your > >words become your actions. Your actions become your habits. Your habits > >become your values. Your values become your destiny. -- Mahatma Gandhi > >-- > >Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > >http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni > > > -- > Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni > From joe at the-frosts.org Tue Jul 10 15:17:50 2007 From: joe at the-frosts.org (Joe Frost) Date: Tue Jul 10 14:47:59 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Executing a command on another host? In-Reply-To: <668606.98795.qm@web601.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <668606.98795.qm@web601.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5FA6D615-A528-488E-8C04-1162F3589231@the-frosts.org> On Jul 10, 2007, at 1:49 PM, Richard Reina wrote: > Hello all, > > I have a program running that on one of the hosts on my small LAN > that can send SMS text messages from the command line. I would > like to be a able to use it from other hosts on the LAN which > amounts to somehow executing a command from one host on to another. > I believe I could write a script in perl that perhaps uses rsync to > help me do this but I feel like there must someohow be an easier > more effiecient way? Does anyone no of any? I'd look into ssh. Something like ssh user@smshost 'sms_command "Message"' You'd have to enter a password for user unless you were using keys. Good luck, Joe From jbalint at gmail.com Tue Jul 10 15:55:23 2007 From: jbalint at gmail.com (Jess Balint) Date: Tue Jul 10 14:55:28 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Chicago Linux Meeting: July 14 Message-ID: <20070710195523.GA15517@gumby.improvedideas.com> Folks: The Chicago GNU/Linux Group is meeting this Saturday, July 14th, 2007 at 3:00pm. We'll be meeting at the Cleversafe, Inc. offices, right off the red and green lines by US Cellular Field: http://tinyurl.com/2j22sn Our presentations are set to be: * Introduction to the PostgreSQL C API (Zlatan Klebic) * 7 Eleven or Kwik-E-Mart, The Real Story (Eddie Martinez) * An alternative language on the JVM - Scala (Jess Balint) As always, beer and food are allowed: please come prepared. For further information, visit our homepage or see the meeting agenda: * http://www.chicagolug.org/ * http://www.chicagolug.org/wiki/Agenda20070616 Feel free to email me directly with questions or concerns. Jess Balint jbalint@gmail.com From papi.antoniadis at gmail.com Tue Jul 10 15:41:50 2007 From: papi.antoniadis at gmail.com (Stef) Date: Wed Jul 11 10:37:30 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Ubuntu server and snmpd.conf In-Reply-To: <4693CFE2.3060501@cupacoffee.net> References: <200707101309.45143.stefmit@gmail.com> <4693CFE2.3060501@cupacoffee.net> Message-ID: <200707101441.50380.stefmit@comcast.net> THANK YOU! Your guess was right on the money, and led me to redo my google-ing search, just to find this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/net-snmp/+bug/74896 At least I was not the only one :( Thanks again, -- Stef On Tuesday 10 July 2007 13:28:50 sjk wrote: > Try starting snmpd with the interface address -- > > ie. snmpd x.x.x.x -Lf /var/log/snmpd.log -p /var/run/snmpd.pid > > My guess is that the init script is only binding to Lo > > Stefmit wrote: > > I have been banging my head against the wall on this one: I have an > > Ubuntu server (Feisty) installed, with snmpd running. A perfectly valid > > snmpd.conf (per man pages) and also having tried a copy from a functional > > other linux distro installation, is producing on my new ubuntu only: > > > > root@nprobe-ubuntu:~# netstat -na |grep 161 > > udp 0 0 127.0.0.1:161 0.0.0.0:* > > > > while on any other system the same smtpd.conf "produces": > > > > [root@old-probe]# netstat -na |grep 161 > > udp 0 0 0.0.0.0:161 0.0.0.0:* > > > > Any ideas? > > Thanks, > From mark at msbrepairs.com Wed Jul 11 15:59:07 2007 From: mark at msbrepairs.com (Mark Stuart Burge) Date: Wed Jul 11 14:56:01 2007 Subject: [LUNI] linuxdays ? Message-ID: <4695368B.3010208@msbrepairs.com> Hey guys and gals, Just to throw an idea out there and see what you all think... I sometimes have people ask me what laptop or desktop pc to buy that would work great with linux. As you are all probably aware, that is not such an easy question to answer without a lot of research. Soooo I got to thinking how cool it might be to try and convince the likes of bestbuy, microcenter and other laptop stockists to hold a sort of 'linuxdays' event now and then. This would .. Allow the general public to see what linux is like. Give sales staff some knowledge of which computers can handle linux . Provide a basis for promoting additional sales of hardware, for example, having a complete multimedia setup in store. I could imagine going into bestbuy on a saturday morning and dual booting a bunch of display models with ubuntu. With some of the nice shiny new hardware out there and putting beryl up against vista in a showdown, we could create a lot of interest and at the same time get to find out the answer to the question at the top of this email. As far as the store owners are concerned, well, they end up with a bunch of display models that now have a bonus o/s added to them for an 'extra' sales factor. They get some publicity. Their staff gain knowledge. Any comments, further ideas, criticisms ? From ohrock at gmail.com Wed Jul 11 16:13:51 2007 From: ohrock at gmail.com (Roberto Serrano) Date: Wed Jul 11 15:13:54 2007 Subject: [LUNI] linuxdays ? In-Reply-To: <4695368B.3010208@msbrepairs.com> References: <4695368B.3010208@msbrepairs.com> Message-ID: <3d76512f0707111313x916663by1dabccdb658bbfec@mail.gmail.com> I like the idea. But how do you clear that up with management? You might have a good chance with Micro Center - as it is a "smaller" chain, but Best buy and the like, mmmm.... I see it difficult at best: a lot of red tape. If you could get the permission from a store I'm sure you will quickly find support from the community to be there, helping, educating, passing out cds, etc. I know the UIC Lug would definetely help with something like that. Roberto On 7/11/07, Mark Stuart Burge wrote: > > Hey guys and gals, > > Just to throw an idea out there and see what you all think... > > I sometimes have people ask me what laptop or desktop pc to buy that > would work great with linux. > As you are all probably aware, that is not such an easy question to > answer without a lot of research. > > > > -- > Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni > From luni at pyewacket.org Wed Jul 11 14:29:44 2007 From: luni at pyewacket.org (Mike Scott) Date: Wed Jul 11 15:29:52 2007 Subject: [LUNI] linuxdays ? Message-ID: <20070711132944.6095274834031e3691077dcdffae0724.2d41f98d27.wbe@email.secureserver.net> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://luni.org/pipermail/luni/attachments/20070711/65ab0280/attachment.htm From kgarner at crt.realtors.org Wed Jul 11 16:40:10 2007 From: kgarner at crt.realtors.org (Keith T. Garner) Date: Wed Jul 11 15:49:09 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Job posting Message-ID: <4695402A.8040807@crt.realtors.org> Contractor needed for 4 to 6 month project on a data aggregation, translation, and analysis engine. The ideal candidate would fit the following requirements: * Ruby experience * Ruby on Rails experience * RDB experience with postgres and/or oracle * Some unix knowledge Pluses, but not required: * C++ experience * Java experience * JRuby experience * RETS (see http://rets.org/) experience If interested, contact me directly. Thanks, Keith -- Keith T. Garner - Managing Director - Center for REALTOR? Technology kgarner@realtors.org - 312-329-3294 - http://blog.realtors.org/crt From sfaci at cs.uic.edu Wed Jul 11 17:10:51 2007 From: sfaci at cs.uic.edu (Samir Faci) Date: Wed Jul 11 16:10:57 2007 Subject: [LUNI] linuxdays ? In-Reply-To: <4695368B.3010208@msbrepairs.com> References: <4695368B.3010208@msbrepairs.com> Message-ID: <9db93b0e0707111410w6e47db3cj771c08283ba5371f@mail.gmail.com> I dunno if I'd take that far,Dell supports ubuntu on 2 or 3 models. As far as the retail idea, it's great in theory if you get the management to let you in. A few things to look into. 1. if you install another OS on the machine, does that the warranty still apply? (I had a gateway where I ran fdisk on the disk (dual booted windows for that matter) and that apparently voided the warranty, I was told very sternly to never do it again) 2. have 2 OSes might add to the value of the machine if you're a geek, from a sales perspective, I'm not so sure. Remember their target audience of most of these retail stores isn't uber geek, it's mom and pops who have no interest in building their own box. You give them two OSes and it's only going to confuse them. What I would do is grab the Ubuntu/Sabayon (had to throw my gentoo pitch in there) CDs boot the machine and show off beryl/compiz/-fusion /whatever and just volonteer to install it for them if they have an interest or dual boot or what-not. Maybe promote the local lug, or have a listing of lugs in the area that can provide help and explain what they need to do to restore their OS if need be. You should of course also give-away an Ubuntu/*insert distro* for each customer that wants Linux Installed on their machine. -- Samir On 7/11/07, Mark Stuart Burge wrote: > Hey guys and gals, > > Just to throw an idea out there and see what you all think... > > I sometimes have people ask me what laptop or desktop pc to buy that > would work great with linux. > As you are all probably aware, that is not such an easy question to > answer without a lot of research. > > Soooo > > I got to thinking how cool it might be to try and convince the likes of > bestbuy, microcenter and other laptop stockists to hold a sort of > 'linuxdays' event now and then. > > This would .. > > Allow the general public to see what linux is like. > > Give sales staff some knowledge of which computers can handle linux . > > Provide a basis for promoting additional sales of hardware, for example, > having a complete multimedia setup in store. > > > > I could imagine going into bestbuy on a saturday morning and dual > booting a bunch of display models with ubuntu. > > With some of the nice shiny new hardware out there and putting beryl up > against vista in a showdown, we could create a lot of interest and at > the same time get to find out the answer to the question at the top of > this email. > > As far as the store owners are concerned, well, they end up with a bunch > of display models that now have a bonus o/s added to them for an 'extra' > sales factor. > They get some publicity. > Their staff gain knowledge. > > > > Any comments, further ideas, criticisms ? > > > > > -- > Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni > From luni at pyewacket.org Wed Jul 11 16:50:46 2007 From: luni at pyewacket.org (Mike Scott) Date: Wed Jul 11 17:50:54 2007 Subject: [LUNI] linuxdays ? Message-ID: <20070711155046.6095274834031e3691077dcdffae0724.e2c5c3c791.wbe@email.secureserver.net> > I dunno if I'd take that far,Dell supports ubuntu on 2 or 3 models. It's a start. Better than nothing. I think Ubuntu is probably a good distro to expose mom & pop to. I donated a couple of PCs to to the big yard sale last year and pre-installed Ubuntu on them. It is getting pretty smooth and easy, especially for office and internet apps. > I had a gateway where I ran fdisk on the disk (dual > booted windows for that matter) and that apparently voided the > warranty, I was told very sternly to never do it again. I would have fought that. I can see them refusing to support any configuration or applications on it, but voiding the warranty? What a cop out. How does it damage or harm the hardware. Probably afraid Bill would find out and raise their license rates. - Mike Scott From sfaci at cs.uic.edu Wed Jul 11 19:02:15 2007 From: sfaci at cs.uic.edu (Samir Faci) Date: Wed Jul 11 18:02:24 2007 Subject: [LUNI] linuxdays ? In-Reply-To: <20070711155046.6095274834031e3691077dcdffae0724.e2c5c3c791.wbe@email.secureserver.net> References: <20070711155046.6095274834031e3691077dcdffae0724.e2c5c3c791.wbe@email.secureserver.net> Message-ID: <9db93b0e0707111602o1cd42923ue5a59c2c82aa4294@mail.gmail.com> Oh, I definitely agree that Ubuntu is doing a great job making Linux accessible to the end user. the gateway was from '97 or so... doesn't matter now, I did end up getting a new HD after getting lectured about doing bad things to my computer. Just something to be aware of if you're going to be installing another OS on a computer you don't own. Make sure it clears with the vendor. -- Samir On 7/11/07, Mike Scott wrote: > > I dunno if I'd take that far,Dell supports ubuntu on 2 or 3 models. > > It's a start. Better than nothing. > > I think Ubuntu is probably a good distro to expose mom & pop to. I > donated a couple of PCs to to the big yard sale last year and > pre-installed Ubuntu on them. It is getting pretty smooth and easy, > especially for office and internet apps. > > > I had a gateway where I ran fdisk on the disk (dual > > booted windows for that matter) and that apparently voided the > > warranty, I was told very sternly to never do it again. > > I would have fought that. I can see them refusing to support any > configuration or applications on it, but voiding the warranty? What a > cop out. How does it damage or harm the hardware. Probably afraid Bill > would find out and raise their license rates. > > - Mike Scott > > -- > Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni > From mark at msbrepairs.com Wed Jul 11 21:09:31 2007 From: mark at msbrepairs.com (Mark Stuart Burge) Date: Wed Jul 11 20:06:23 2007 Subject: [LUNI] linuxdays ? In-Reply-To: <9db93b0e0707111602o1cd42923ue5a59c2c82aa4294@mail.gmail.com> References: <20070711155046.6095274834031e3691077dcdffae0724.e2c5c3c791.wbe@email.secureserver.net> <9db93b0e0707111602o1cd42923ue5a59c2c82aa4294@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <46957F4B.8010405@msbrepairs.com> Thanks everyone for your comments so far. I am quite encouraged by this and it looks like, with the proper ground work done (store management permission, sponsorship and promotion) we could maybe get something happening. Micro Center might be a good place to start like Roberto mentioned (interesting, that is where I purchased my first two distro's - turbolinux and suse 7.2) Perhaps next week after a few more people have responded, we could take a poll to see how many might be interested in making this happen. From r_a_smith3530 at sbcglobal.net Wed Jul 11 19:24:47 2007 From: r_a_smith3530 at sbcglobal.net (Robert Smith) Date: Wed Jul 11 20:25:09 2007 Subject: [LUNI] linuxdays ? In-Reply-To: <4695368B.3010208@msbrepairs.com> Message-ID: <199457.8895.qm@web81306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> And they possibly void the manufacturer's warranty. I don't know whether the "Big Boys" like Best Buy, Circuit City, CDW, Frye's, Micro Center, or Tiger Direct would go for this, but you might get smaller outfits (the "mom and pop" places) like Eschelon in Crystal Lake, just to name one example, to try something like this. It would be a sales driver for them. In the music world, many music stores have "clinics" where a name musician comes in and demonstrates how he or she uses Manufacturer "X's" equipment in getting their sound. It's a great draw for the store. In fact, it's become such a draw that nowadays, many stores charge an admission fee to these events. Cool idea, just not sure how well it would be accepted in the "Big Leagues." Rob Smith Mark Stuart Burge wrote: Hey guys and gals, Just to throw an idea out there and see what you all think... I sometimes have people ask me what laptop or desktop pc to buy that would work great with linux. As you are all probably aware, that is not such an easy question to answer without a lot of research. Soooo I got to thinking how cool it might be to try and convince the likes of bestbuy, microcenter and other laptop stockists to hold a sort of 'linuxdays' event now and then. This would .. Allow the general public to see what linux is like. Give sales staff some knowledge of which computers can handle linux . Provide a basis for promoting additional sales of hardware, for example, having a complete multimedia setup in store. I could imagine going into bestbuy on a saturday morning and dual booting a bunch of display models with ubuntu. With some of the nice shiny new hardware out there and putting beryl up against vista in a showdown, we could create a lot of interest and at the same time get to find out the answer to the question at the top of this email. As far as the store owners are concerned, well, they end up with a bunch of display models that now have a bonus o/s added to them for an 'extra' sales factor. They get some publicity. Their staff gain knowledge. Any comments, further ideas, criticisms ? -- Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni From r_a_smith3530 at sbcglobal.net Wed Jul 11 19:26:58 2007 From: r_a_smith3530 at sbcglobal.net (Robert Smith) Date: Wed Jul 11 20:27:05 2007 Subject: [LUNI] linuxdays ? In-Reply-To: <20070711132944.6095274834031e3691077dcdffae0724.2d41f98d27.wbe@email.secureserver.net> Message-ID: <113297.58000.qm@web81311.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Is Wally-World going to be selling the Dell models that come with Ubuntu? I do seem to remember that they were selling Linux equipped PCs for a while. Rob Smith Mike Scott wrote: I heard that Wal-Mart is going to sell Dells. I'm no fan of that evil empire (Wally-World) but they could potentially move a lot of product and Dell now supports Ubuntu. - Mike Scott -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [LUNI] linuxdays ? From: Mark Stuart Burge Date: Wed, July 11, 2007 2:59 pm To: Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion Hey guys and gals, Just to throw an idea out there and see what you all think... I sometimes have people ask me what laptop or desktop pc to buy that would work great with linux. As you are all probably aware, that is not such an easy question to answer without a lot of research. Soooo I got to thinking how cool it might be to try and convince the likes of bestbuy, microcenter and other laptop stockists to hold a sort of 'linuxdays' event now and then. This would .. Allow the general public to see what linux is like. Give sales staff some knowledge of which computers can handle linux . Provide a basis for promoting additional sales of hardware, for example, having a complete multimedia setup in store. I could imagine going into bestbuy on a saturday morning and dual booting a bunch of display models with ubuntu. With some of the nice shiny new hardware out there and ! putting beryl up against vista in a showdown, we could create a lot of interest and at the same time get to find out the answer to the question at the top of this email. As far as the store owners are concerned, well, they end up with a bunch of display models that now have a bonus o/s added to them for an 'extra' sales factor. They get some publicity. Their staff gain knowledge. Any comments, further ideas, criticisms ? -- Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni -- Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni From r_a_smith3530 at sbcglobal.net Wed Jul 11 19:29:24 2007 From: r_a_smith3530 at sbcglobal.net (Robert Smith) Date: Wed Jul 11 20:29:32 2007 Subject: [LUNI] linuxdays ? In-Reply-To: <9db93b0e0707111410w6e47db3cj771c08283ba5371f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <959216.58368.qm@web81313.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Installing software for their customers? Now you're talking about stepping on the "Geek Squad's" toes, and Best Buy certainly WON'T go for that. Rob Smith Samir Faci wrote: I dunno if I'd take that far,Dell supports ubuntu on 2 or 3 models. As far as the retail idea, it's great in theory if you get the management to let you in. A few things to look into. 1. if you install another OS on the machine, does that the warranty still apply? (I had a gateway where I ran fdisk on the disk (dual booted windows for that matter) and that apparently voided the warranty, I was told very sternly to never do it again) 2. have 2 OSes might add to the value of the machine if you're a geek, from a sales perspective, I'm not so sure. Remember their target audience of most of these retail stores isn't uber geek, it's mom and pops who have no interest in building their own box. You give them two OSes and it's only going to confuse them. What I would do is grab the Ubuntu/Sabayon (had to throw my gentoo pitch in there) CDs boot the machine and show off beryl/compiz/-fusion /whatever and just volonteer to install it for them if they have an interest or dual boot or what-not. Maybe promote the local lug, or have a listing of lugs in the area that can provide help and explain what they need to do to restore their OS if need be. You should of course also give-away an Ubuntu/*insert distro* for each customer that wants Linux Installed on their machine. -- Samir On 7/11/07, Mark Stuart Burge wrote: > Hey guys and gals, > > Just to throw an idea out there and see what you all think... > > I sometimes have people ask me what laptop or desktop pc to buy that > would work great with linux. > As you are all probably aware, that is not such an easy question to > answer without a lot of research. > > Soooo > > I got to thinking how cool it might be to try and convince the likes of > bestbuy, microcenter and other laptop stockists to hold a sort of > 'linuxdays' event now and then. > > This would .. > > Allow the general public to see what linux is like. > > Give sales staff some knowledge of which computers can handle linux . > > Provide a basis for promoting additional sales of hardware, for example, > having a complete multimedia setup in store. > > > > I could imagine going into bestbuy on a saturday morning and dual > booting a bunch of display models with ubuntu. > > With some of the nice shiny new hardware out there and putting beryl up > against vista in a showdown, we could create a lot of interest and at > the same time get to find out the answer to the question at the top of > this email. > > As far as the store owners are concerned, well, they end up with a bunch > of display models that now have a bonus o/s added to them for an 'extra' > sales factor. > They get some publicity. > Their staff gain knowledge. > > > > Any comments, further ideas, criticisms ? > > > > > -- > Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni > -- Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni From sfaci at cs.uic.edu Wed Jul 11 23:18:11 2007 From: sfaci at cs.uic.edu (Samir Faci) Date: Wed Jul 11 22:18:14 2007 Subject: [LUNI] linuxdays ? In-Reply-To: <959216.58368.qm@web81313.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <9db93b0e0707111410w6e47db3cj771c08283ba5371f@mail.gmail.com> <959216.58368.qm@web81313.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <9db93b0e0707112018p7b862bafp4bb8a0191d57dfa6@mail.gmail.com> Not really, since Geek Squad doesn't support that service. Also, we'll be more then happy to train Geek Squad to perform that service. Or we can show them how to instlal linux and Best Buy or whoever can charge for the install. I franky don't have an issue with that as long as it's promoting Linux. It's also one more reason for the big boys to make it worth their while to let us come into their store. -- Samir On 7/11/07, Robert Smith wrote: > Installing software for their customers? Now you're talking about stepping on the "Geek Squad's" toes, and Best Buy certainly WON'T go for that. > > Rob Smith > > > Samir Faci wrote: > I dunno if I'd take that far,Dell supports ubuntu on 2 or 3 models. > > As far as the retail idea, it's great in theory if you get the > management to let you in. > > A few things to look into. > > 1. if you install another OS on the machine, does that the warranty > still apply? (I had a gateway where I ran fdisk on the disk (dual > booted windows for that matter) and that apparently voided the > warranty, I was told very sternly to never do it again) > > 2. have 2 OSes might add to the value of the machine if you're a > geek, from a sales perspective, I'm not so sure. Remember their > target audience of most of these retail stores isn't uber geek, it's > mom and pops who have no interest in building their own box. You give > them two OSes and it's only going to confuse them. > > What I would do is grab the Ubuntu/Sabayon (had to throw my gentoo > pitch in there) CDs boot the machine and show off beryl/compiz/-fusion > /whatever and just volonteer to install it for them if they have an > interest or dual boot or what-not. Maybe promote the local lug, or > have a listing of lugs in the area that can provide help and explain > what they need to do to restore their OS if need be. You should of > course also give-away an Ubuntu/*insert distro* for each customer that > wants Linux Installed on their machine. > > > > -- > Samir > > > > On 7/11/07, Mark Stuart Burge wrote: > > Hey guys and gals, > > > > Just to throw an idea out there and see what you all think... > > > > I sometimes have people ask me what laptop or desktop pc to buy that > > would work great with linux. > > As you are all probably aware, that is not such an easy question to > > answer without a lot of research. > > > > Soooo > > > > I got to thinking how cool it might be to try and convince the likes of > > bestbuy, microcenter and other laptop stockists to hold a sort of > > 'linuxdays' event now and then. > > > > This would .. > > > > Allow the general public to see what linux is like. > > > > Give sales staff some knowledge of which computers can handle linux . > > > > Provide a basis for promoting additional sales of hardware, for example, > > having a complete multimedia setup in store. > > > > > > > > I could imagine going into bestbuy on a saturday morning and dual > > booting a bunch of display models with ubuntu. > > > > With some of the nice shiny new hardware out there and putting beryl up > > against vista in a showdown, we could create a lot of interest and at > > the same time get to find out the answer to the question at the top of > > this email. > > > > As far as the store owners are concerned, well, they end up with a bunch > > of display models that now have a bonus o/s added to them for an 'extra' > > sales factor. > > They get some publicity. > > Their staff gain knowledge. > > > > > > > > Any comments, further ideas, criticisms ? > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni > > > -- > Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni > > -- > Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni > From Penguin at waxmoustache.com Thu Jul 12 01:36:23 2007 From: Penguin at waxmoustache.com (James Velguth) Date: Thu Jul 12 00:36:30 2007 Subject: [LUNI] linuxdays ? In-Reply-To: <4695368B.3010208@msbrepairs.com> References: <4695368B.3010208@msbrepairs.com> Message-ID: <4695BDD7.3080101@WaxMoustache.com> My only thought on this would be that the store chain might be under contract for a specific operating system.... James Mark Stuart Burge wrote: > Hey guys and gals, > > Just to throw an idea out there and see what you all think... > > I sometimes have people ask me what laptop or desktop pc to buy that > would work great with linux. > As you are all probably aware, that is not such an easy question to > answer without a lot of research. > > Soooo > > I got to thinking how cool it might be to try and convince the likes > of bestbuy, microcenter and other laptop stockists to hold a sort of > 'linuxdays' event now and then. > > This would .. > > Allow the general public to see what linux is like. > > Give sales staff some knowledge of which computers can handle linux . > > Provide a basis for promoting additional sales of hardware, for > example, having a complete multimedia setup in store. > > > > I could imagine going into bestbuy on a saturday morning and dual > booting a bunch of display models with ubuntu. > > With some of the nice shiny new hardware out there and putting beryl > up against vista in a showdown, we could create a lot of interest and > at the same time get to find out the answer to the question at the top > of this email. > > As far as the store owners are concerned, well, they end up with a > bunch of display models that now have a bonus o/s added to them for an > 'extra' sales factor. > They get some publicity. > Their staff gain knowledge. > > > > Any comments, further ideas, criticisms ? > > > > From msalsman at yahoo.com Thu Jul 12 12:31:40 2007 From: msalsman at yahoo.com (Michael Salsman) Date: Thu Jul 12 11:38:39 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Trying to run Coetmpiz Fusion on Dell D600 with Kubuntu. Message-ID: <4696576C.8030100@yahoo.com> I've been wrestling with running Compiz Fusion on a Dell D600. To date, I have been successful with things like TrueType fonts, wireless with ndiswrapper, but setting up the merged Compiz/Beryl code has me stumped. In general, I am getting a white background, and the display seems to only use 2/rds of the display for the window manager, with the tops of the application windows being clipped. The "cube" works, rotating the full display, but in all cases ... each virtual desktop exhibits the same symptoms. The physical display supports a 1400 x 1050 display resolution, with a "max texture size" of 2048 x 2048" from Kubuntu. The display chip appears to be an ATI Radeon 9000, and I've followed different instructions found by Googling .... but with no resulting change in behavior ... Has anyone successfully been able to get this particular configuration operational? Thanks for any and all advice. Regards, Mike From sfaci at cs.uic.edu Thu Jul 12 13:18:17 2007 From: sfaci at cs.uic.edu (Samir Faci) Date: Thu Jul 12 12:18:21 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Trying to run Coetmpiz Fusion on Dell D600 with Kubuntu. In-Reply-To: <4696576C.8030100@yahoo.com> References: <4696576C.8030100@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <9db93b0e0707121018v2d11b429yfbeb32192f7072a6@mail.gmail.com> I tend to have a sadistic annoying habit of installing the latest bleeding edge software no matter how much pain it ends up causing me in the long run (which some people claim is the reason I use gentoo). The current release of compiz fusion works pretty nicely, the first version I was running was crawling compared to beryl. I do have Compiz-fusion running, latest svn release, but be careful, it's not even beta yet, it's still an alpha release and most of the devs don't recommend for the avg. end user to run it yet. I'm not familiar with the Ubuntu/Kubuntu setup, but most likely you'll have to a compile from source. I had issues having both Beryl + Compiz-fusion installed concurrently. Compiz uses a newer version of emerald that's not compatible with beryl (emerald is the program you run that handles the theme management and ends up drawing the borders on the windows as well). (in other words, beryl works fine, it's just all your windows don't have borders. I could help you more if you can tell me where you got stuck at. I presume you got your 3d Acceleration working and glxgears works fine when you run it. Are you using ubuntu repositories to install it, or are you trying to do a source install? -- Samir On 7/12/07, Michael Salsman wrote: > I've been wrestling with running Compiz Fusion on a Dell D600. To > date, I have been successful with things like TrueType fonts, wireless > with ndiswrapper, but setting up the merged Compiz/Beryl code has me > stumped. > > In general, I am getting a white background, and the display seems to > only use 2/rds of the display for the window manager, with the tops of > the application windows being clipped. The "cube" works, rotating the > full display, but in all cases ... each virtual desktop exhibits the > same symptoms. > > The physical display supports a 1400 x 1050 display resolution, with a > "max texture size" of 2048 x 2048" from Kubuntu. > > The display chip appears to be an ATI Radeon 9000, and I've followed > different instructions found by Googling .... but with no resulting > change in behavior ... > > Has anyone successfully been able to get this particular configuration > operational? > > Thanks for any and all advice. > > Regards, > > Mike > > > > -- > Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni > From skie at dragonsvalley.com Sat Jul 14 10:49:19 2007 From: skie at dragonsvalley.com (Branko Kotur) Date: Sat Jul 14 09:50:21 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Securing /tmp Message-ID: <200707140949.20283.skie@dragonsvalley.com> I've already set my /tmp as noexec, but everything I've seen regarding this topic only mentions using noexec. I haven't been able to find anything that would allow me to prevent perl/shell scripts from running inside /tmp. Does anyone know if this is possible, and if so, how? This is for shared web hosting servers. While I can't control what my customers do nor force them to upgrade their PHP scripts every day, I'd like to at least minimize the results of their lack of understanding/caring about the risks of not upgrading. From maney at two14.net Sat Jul 14 12:35:37 2007 From: maney at two14.net (Martin Maney) Date: Sat Jul 14 11:35:49 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Securing /tmp In-Reply-To: <200707140949.20283.skie@dragonsvalley.com> References: <200707140949.20283.skie@dragonsvalley.com> Message-ID: <20070714163537.GA8537@furrr.two14.net> On Sat, Jul 14, 2007 at 09:49:19AM -0500, Branko Kotur wrote: > I've already set my /tmp as noexec, but everything I've seen regarding this > topic only mentions using noexec. I haven't been able to find anything that > would allow me to prevent perl/shell scripts from running inside /tmp. Does > anyone know if this is possible, and if so, how? Making /tmp unwritable would do it... can't think of much else offhand! -- automation: replacing what works with something that almost works, but which is faster and cheaper. - attributed to Roger Needham From skie at dragonsvalley.com Sat Jul 14 13:48:00 2007 From: skie at dragonsvalley.com (Branko Kotur) Date: Sat Jul 14 12:48:57 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Securing /tmp In-Reply-To: <20070714163537.GA8537@furrr.two14.net> References: <200707140949.20283.skie@dragonsvalley.com> <20070714163537.GA8537@furrr.two14.net> Message-ID: <200707141248.00888.skie@dragonsvalley.com> On Saturday 14 July 2007 11:35:37 am Martin Maney wrote: > > Making /tmp unwritable would do it... can't think of much else offhand! > Unfortunately, that will cause just about everything to stop working (mysql, php sessions, etc). I found a number of mod_security rules for Apache which may help, but I haven't tested them yet. From we3 at sprynet.com Tue Jul 17 00:16:18 2007 From: we3 at sprynet.com (Walter E) Date: Mon Jul 16 23:16:28 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Securing /tmp In-Reply-To: <200707140949.20283.skie@dragonsvalley.com> References: <200707140949.20283.skie@dragonsvalley.com> Message-ID: <1184645779.3499.6.camel@big.gear.chicago.il.us> Wait for it, SELinux. At least I think it should be able to, but I really haven't fooled around with it more than I absolutely have had to. I'm not saying that it would be easy either. On Sat, 2007-07-14 at 09:49 -0500, Branko Kotur wrote: > I've already set my /tmp as noexec, but everything I've seen regarding this > topic only mentions using noexec. I haven't been able to find anything that > would allow me to prevent perl/shell scripts from running inside /tmp. Does > anyone know if this is possible, and if so, how? > > This is for shared web hosting servers. While I can't control what my > customers do nor force them to upgrade their PHP scripts every day, I'd like > to at least minimize the results of their lack of understanding/caring about > the risks of not upgrading. From ohrock at gmail.com Wed Jul 18 12:58:14 2007 From: ohrock at gmail.com (Roberto Serrano) Date: Wed Jul 18 11:58:17 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Fwd: Websphere User' Group Meeting - An Introduction to Ruby on Rails and IBM's experience Message-ID: <3d76512f0707180958g19e0b483w6f29b45113d69ce2@mail.gmail.com> Samir and I attended one of their meetings a while back, and it was pretty good. Roberto ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: bernie Leung Date: Jul 18, 2007 11:48 AM Subject: FW: User' Group Meeting - An Introduction to Ruby on Rails and IBM's experience Hello, I just wanted to pass this information along. I am leading one of the Websphere User's Group in Chicago and there is a meeting coming up next week. I would like to invite you to attend. Could you also please pass this along to the other business partners? Thanks! Bernie Leung *From:* Chicago North-West Suburb WebSphere User Group [mailto: support@websphere.org] *Sent:* Thursday, July 12, 2007 9:42 AM *To:* bernie Leung *Subject:* User' Group Meeting - An Introduction to Ruby on Rails and IBM's experience We have an exciting User's Group meeting for July 24 (Tuesday) 2007. ** Title ** "An Introduction to Ruby on Rails and IBM's experience" ** Agenda ** 5:00pm - 6:30pm Pizza and Networking 6:30pm - 6:45pm Membership Meeting (future topics you want to see) 6:45pm - 8:00pm Presentation 8:00pm - 8:30pm Discussions ** Presentation Topic ** - What is Ruby (with a perspective for Java Developers) - What is Rails? - Why Rails? - Demo some of our Rails projects - Talk about deployment/scaling (Rails caching), - Talk about JRuby, show an example Rails app and how to deploy it to Websphere ** Presenters ** "Blaine Dolph is the Lead Architect for the Chicago Innovation Center and Rails Community Leader for IBM." "David Zayas is an Application Architect for the Chicago Innovation Center. After 8 years leading Java EE based projects, David has been Java-free for the last year and half, leading the charge on the most recent Ruby on Rails projects for the Center, Transition to Teaching and SME Toolkit." "Tom Sokalski is an application developer at the IBM Center for Solution Innovation in Chicago. He switched to Ruby on Rails around a year ago and is planning on sticking around for a while. You can contact Tom at tmsokals@us.ibm.com." ** Registration ** Please pass this along to others who are interested in the software development community. But make sure everyone registers - the security on 1st floor needs to have your name. Click here to register: http://www.websphere.org/websphere/Site?page=ugdetail&groupId=16 or http://www.opensourceR.us From me at heyjay.com Mon Jul 23 13:54:55 2007 From: me at heyjay.com (Jay Strauss) Date: Mon Jul 23 12:55:06 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Website was vandalized Message-ID: Hi, luni.org has been vandalized. I can get to the porn OK but can't find a link to the archives :) Jay From sfaci at cs.uic.edu Mon Jul 23 14:22:38 2007 From: sfaci at cs.uic.edu (Samir Faci) Date: Mon Jul 23 13:22:41 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Website was vandalized In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9db93b0e0707231122o2074e5abye3e2aa9cffeccaa9@mail.gmail.com> Chineese porn apparently, it renders in some asian symbols for me. Thanks to the fact that I actually used mailman before, and that Seva uses the default paths: Luni Archive: http://luni.org/pipermail/luni/ and various modifications on your mailing list subscription: http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni On 7/23/07, Jay Strauss wrote: > Hi, > > luni.org has been vandalized. I can get to the porn OK but can't find > a link to the archives :) > > Jay > -- > Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni > From rick.munday at bananaskin.com Mon Jul 23 14:12:20 2007 From: rick.munday at bananaskin.com (Rick Munday) Date: Mon Jul 23 13:25:22 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Website was vandalized In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200707231730.l6NHUQ118936@espresso.bananaskin.com> WTH? It's in Chinese! -----Original Message----- From: luni-bounces@luni.org [mailto:luni-bounces@luni.org] On Behalf Of Jay Strauss Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 12:55 PM To: Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion Subject: [LUNI] Website was vandalized Hi, luni.org has been vandalized. I can get to the porn OK but can't find a link to the archives :) Jay -- Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni -- From sfaci at cs.uic.edu Mon Jul 23 14:32:39 2007 From: sfaci at cs.uic.edu (Samir Faci) Date: Mon Jul 23 13:32:44 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Website was vandalized In-Reply-To: <200707231730.l6NHUQ118936@espresso.bananaskin.com> References: <200707231730.l6NHUQ118936@espresso.bananaskin.com> Message-ID: <9db93b0e0707231132v55b592b9qb0de935615e6c460@mail.gmail.com> Hope Seva doesn't mind.. I removed all the content, and put in luni.org. Hopefully he has a backup of the wiki page. That is unless anyone particularly wants/needs the current porno links. -- Samir On 7/23/07, Rick Munday wrote: > WTH? It's in Chinese! > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: luni-bounces@luni.org [mailto:luni-bounces@luni.org] On Behalf Of Jay > Strauss > Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 12:55 PM > To: Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > Subject: [LUNI] Website was vandalized > > Hi, > > luni.org has been vandalized. I can get to the porn OK but can't find a > link to the archives :) > > Jay > -- > Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni > > -- > > -- > Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni > From rick.munday at bananaskin.com Mon Jul 23 14:35:32 2007 From: rick.munday at bananaskin.com (Rick Munday) Date: Mon Jul 23 13:35:41 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Website was vandalized In-Reply-To: <9db93b0e0707231132v55b592b9qb0de935615e6c460@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200707231753.l6NHrV119150@espresso.bananaskin.com> > That is unless anyone particularly wants/needs the > current porno links. Nah, I get them from Keith's offshore site :^D /me ducks and runs! From aclose at gmail.com Mon Jul 23 14:40:15 2007 From: aclose at gmail.com (Andrew Close) Date: Mon Jul 23 13:40:19 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Website was vandalized In-Reply-To: <9db93b0e0707231132v55b592b9qb0de935615e6c460@mail.gmail.com> References: <200707231730.l6NHUQ118936@espresso.bananaskin.com> <9db93b0e0707231132v55b592b9qb0de935615e6c460@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 7/23/07, Samir Faci wrote: > Hope Seva doesn't mind.. I removed all the content, and put in > luni.org. Hopefully he has a backup of the wiki page. That is unless > anyone particularly wants/needs the current porno links. i thought that was a new luni feature. :) there appear to still be a couple misc. links in the wiki. if you click on the random page link you'll find them. From ceo at l-i-e.com Mon Jul 23 14:40:15 2007 From: ceo at l-i-e.com (Richard Lynch) Date: Mon Jul 23 13:40:23 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Website was vandalized In-Reply-To: <9db93b0e0707231132v55b592b9qb0de935615e6c460@mail.gmail.com> References: <200707231730.l6NHUQ118936@espresso.bananaskin.com> <9db93b0e0707231132v55b592b9qb0de935615e6c460@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4832.24.12.13.192.1185216015.squirrel@www.l-i-e.com> I dunno when you think you fixed it, and maybe I just got a cached version from Comcast, but it was messed up when I just checked it, other than the home page. E.g., if you hit the "Random page" link, you are very likely to hit content you (still) don't want up there. So it's not really really fixed... On Mon, July 23, 2007 1:32 pm, Samir Faci wrote: > Hope Seva doesn't mind.. I removed all the content, and put in > luni.org. Hopefully he has a backup of the wiki page. That is unless > anyone particularly wants/needs the current porno links. > > -- > Samir > > > On 7/23/07, Rick Munday wrote: >> WTH? It's in Chinese! >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: luni-bounces@luni.org [mailto:luni-bounces@luni.org] On Behalf >> Of Jay >> Strauss >> Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 12:55 PM >> To: Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion >> Subject: [LUNI] Website was vandalized >> >> Hi, >> >> luni.org has been vandalized. I can get to the porn OK but can't >> find a >> link to the archives :) >> >> Jay >> -- >> Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion >> http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni >> >> -- >> >> -- >> Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion >> http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni >> > -- > Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni > -- Some people have a "gift" link here. Know what I want? I want you to buy a CD from some indie artist. http://cdbaby.com/browse/from/lynch Yeah, I get a buck. So? From ceo at l-i-e.com Mon Jul 23 14:36:22 2007 From: ceo at l-i-e.com (Richard Lynch) Date: Mon Jul 23 13:43:09 2007 Subject: [LUNI] luni.org Message-ID: <4791.24.12.13.192.1185215782.squirrel@www.l-i-e.com> My spam filters have eaten the message I wanted to reply to, but... If you go into the Wiki link "Recent changes" and dink around with the number of changes and number of days you can get back to some old (good) content. E.g.: http://luni.org/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page&curid=1&diff=1523&oldid=1511 Of course, in the meantime, you need to find out which automated web-scripting spam-bot is hitting it and messing it up, or you'll be in an arms race to fix it up before they hit it again... -- Some people have a "gift" link here. Know what I want? I want you to buy a CD from some indie artist. http://cdbaby.com/browse/from/lynch Yeah, I get a buck. So? From sfaci at cs.uic.edu Mon Jul 23 15:36:27 2007 From: sfaci at cs.uic.edu (Samir Faci) Date: Mon Jul 23 14:36:30 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Website was vandalized In-Reply-To: <4832.24.12.13.192.1185216015.squirrel@www.l-i-e.com> References: <200707231730.l6NHUQ118936@espresso.bananaskin.com> <9db93b0e0707231132v55b592b9qb0de935615e6c460@mail.gmail.com> <4832.24.12.13.192.1185216015.squirrel@www.l-i-e.com> Message-ID: <9db93b0e0707231236j76241a38w576cbe7607280e07@mail.gmail.com> ergh.. whatever, the main the page looks clean. That's seva's bit. I created a user account and cleaned up the main site so it doesn't look like a chineese asian porn site/wow gold. -- Samir On 7/23/07, Richard Lynch wrote: > I dunno when you think you fixed it, and maybe I just got a cached > version from Comcast, but it was messed up when I just checked it, > other than the home page. > > E.g., if you hit the "Random page" link, you are very likely to hit > content you (still) don't want up there. > > So it's not really really fixed... > > On Mon, July 23, 2007 1:32 pm, Samir Faci wrote: > > Hope Seva doesn't mind.. I removed all the content, and put in > > luni.org. Hopefully he has a backup of the wiki page. That is unless > > anyone particularly wants/needs the current porno links. > > > > -- > > Samir > > > > > > On 7/23/07, Rick Munday wrote: > >> WTH? It's in Chinese! > >> > >> > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: luni-bounces@luni.org [mailto:luni-bounces@luni.org] On Behalf > >> Of Jay > >> Strauss > >> Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 12:55 PM > >> To: Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > >> Subject: [LUNI] Website was vandalized > >> > >> Hi, > >> > >> luni.org has been vandalized. I can get to the porn OK but can't > >> find a > >> link to the archives :) > >> > >> Jay > >> -- > >> Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > >> http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni > >> > >> -- > >> > >> -- > >> Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > >> http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni > >> > > -- > > Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni > > > > > -- > Some people have a "gift" link here. > Know what I want? > I want you to buy a CD from some indie artist. > http://cdbaby.com/browse/from/lynch > Yeah, I get a buck. So? > > -- > Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni > From dbt at meat.net Mon Jul 23 16:05:31 2007 From: dbt at meat.net (David Terrell) Date: Mon Jul 23 15:28:09 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Website was vandalized In-Reply-To: <9db93b0e0707231132v55b592b9qb0de935615e6c460@mail.gmail.com> References: <200707231730.l6NHUQ118936@espresso.bananaskin.com> <9db93b0e0707231132v55b592b9qb0de935615e6c460@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20070723200531.GA11901@sphinx.chicagopeoplez.org> On Mon, Jul 23, 2007 at 01:32:39PM -0500, Samir Faci wrote: > Hope Seva doesn't mind.. I removed all the content, and put in > luni.org. Hopefully he has a backup of the wiki page. That is unless > anyone particularly wants/needs the current porno links. You can click history, find the last good revision, edit it, then save it. I did that to the main page (and went through the recent changes list and deleted a bunch of crap page contents), but it was not necessarily exhaustive. I can't actually delete pages that have no reason to exist, but if some admin could do that it would be great. -- David Terrell dbt@meat.net ((meatspace)) http://meat.net/ From maney at two14.net Mon Jul 23 21:10:57 2007 From: maney at two14.net (Martin Maney) Date: Mon Jul 23 20:11:13 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Website was vandalized In-Reply-To: <9db93b0e0707231122o2074e5abye3e2aa9cffeccaa9@mail.gmail.com> References: <9db93b0e0707231122o2074e5abye3e2aa9cffeccaa9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20070724011057.GA26387@furrr.two14.net> On Mon, Jul 23, 2007 at 01:22:38PM -0500, Samir Faci wrote: > Thanks to the fact that I actually used mailman before, and that Seva > uses the default paths: Just pointing out that these links are also in sensibly-named headers in each and every email that comes to from the Luni list. What a waste of disk space that is if you have a few hundred messages stashed away for whatever reason! -- ...that obsessive conviction, so common among authors and composers, that all similarities between their works and any others which appear later must inevitably be ascribed to plagiarism. -- 2nd Circuit, 1945 From seva at sevatech.com Mon Jul 23 23:14:15 2007 From: seva at sevatech.com (Seva Epsteyn) Date: Mon Jul 23 22:14:17 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Website was vandalized In-Reply-To: <20070724011057.GA26387@furrr.two14.net> References: <9db93b0e0707231122o2074e5abye3e2aa9cffeccaa9@mail.gmail.com> <20070724011057.GA26387@furrr.two14.net> Message-ID: I don't think the wiki is working out for luni.org, back to static? Forums perhaps? On a side note, does anyone want to take over luni.org? -Seva From sfaci at cs.uic.edu Tue Jul 24 02:02:14 2007 From: sfaci at cs.uic.edu (Samir Faci) Date: Tue Jul 24 01:02:22 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Website was vandalized In-Reply-To: References: <9db93b0e0707231122o2074e5abye3e2aa9cffeccaa9@mail.gmail.com> <20070724011057.GA26387@furrr.two14.net> Message-ID: <9db93b0e0707232302t74c31dd4oe5ab757552457639@mail.gmail.com> I'm not saying I'd have much more time then you would at running it Seva, but If you don't want it, I'll volunteer for it. I do have some ideas I'd wanna try out, I'll run some of them by everyone later. -- Samir On 7/23/07, Seva Epsteyn wrote: > > I don't think the wiki is working out for luni.org, back to static? Forums > perhaps? > > On a side note, does anyone want to take over luni.org? > > -Seva > -- > Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni > From me at heyjay.com Tue Jul 24 10:24:38 2007 From: me at heyjay.com (Jay Strauss) Date: Tue Jul 24 09:24:51 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Pseudo RSS Message-ID: Hi, Does anyone know of a product/tool/script that could tell me when a web page has changed? Sort of like RSS, but this site doesn't have RSS. I need to watch this page on a bulletin board where fairly infrequently someone posts a message that I need to know has been posted. I hate having to remind myself to check all the time, and the site has no provision to email. It'd be nice if I could have some utility do it for me. Thanks Jay From luni at pyewacket.org Tue Jul 24 09:20:53 2007 From: luni at pyewacket.org (Mike Scott) Date: Tue Jul 24 10:21:01 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Pseudo RSS Message-ID: <20070724082053.6095274834031e3691077dcdffae0724.5ce219ac22.wbe@email.secureserver.net> wget + cron? - Mike Scott > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: [LUNI] Pseudo RSS > From: "Jay Strauss" > Date: Tue, July 24, 2007 9:24 am > To: "Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion" > > > Hi, > > Does anyone know of a product/tool/script that could tell me when a > web page has changed? Sort of like RSS, but this site doesn't have > RSS. > > I need to watch this page on a bulletin board where fairly > infrequently someone posts a message that I need to know has been > posted. I hate having to remind myself to check all the time, and the > site has no provision to email. > > It'd be nice if I could have some utility do it for me. > > Thanks > Jay > -- > Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni From sfaci at cs.uic.edu Tue Jul 24 11:33:10 2007 From: sfaci at cs.uic.edu (Samir Faci) Date: Tue Jul 24 10:33:12 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Pseudo RSS In-Reply-To: <20070724082053.6095274834031e3691077dcdffae0724.5ce219ac22.wbe@email.secureserver.net> References: <20070724082053.6095274834031e3691077dcdffae0724.5ce219ac22.wbe@email.secureserver.net> Message-ID: <9db93b0e0707240833w463f85f5pd82c9262f7ec481f@mail.gmail.com> Well, is it a site you're maintaining, or just some random site? if it's some random site, I would do a wget on the main index file and just do a md5sum check on the retrieved file. Though I'm sure there's simpler ways of doing this. -- Samir On 7/24/07, Mike Scott wrote: > > wget + cron? > > - Mike Scott > > > > -------- Original Message -------- > > Subject: [LUNI] Pseudo RSS > > From: "Jay Strauss" > > Date: Tue, July 24, 2007 9:24 am > > To: "Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion" > > > > > > Hi, > > > > Does anyone know of a product/tool/script that could tell me when a > > web page has changed? Sort of like RSS, but this site doesn't have > > RSS. > > > > I need to watch this page on a bulletin board where fairly > > infrequently someone posts a message that I need to know has been > > posted. I hate having to remind myself to check all the time, and the > > site has no provision to email. > > > > It'd be nice if I could have some utility do it for me. > > > > Thanks > > Jay > > -- > > Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni > > -- > Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni > From frank.mileto at advocatehealth.com Tue Jul 24 12:15:56 2007 From: frank.mileto at advocatehealth.com (Frank Mileto) Date: Tue Jul 24 11:20:13 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Pseudo RSS In-Reply-To: <9db93b0e0707240833w463f85f5pd82c9262f7ec481f@mail.gmail.com> References: <20070724082053.6095274834031e3691077dcdffae0724.5ce219ac22.wbe@email.secureserver.net> <9db93b0e0707240833w463f85f5pd82c9262f7ec481f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <756258a30707240915k15559379i2570c1a301a0bca4@mail.gmail.com> Quick and dirty python could work but may want to have the script email you or run it on a open terminal #################### from urllib2 import urlopen from sys import argv import md5 from time import sleep def lookup(url,timer): while(1): page = urlopen(url) hash = md5.md5(page.read()) sleep(float(timer)) page = urlopen(url) hash2 = md5.md5(page.read()) if hash == hash2: continue else: print "page has been updated" lookup(argv[1],argv[2]) ########################################## On 7/24/07, Samir Faci wrote: > > Well, is it a site you're maintaining, or just some random site? > > if it's some random site, I would do a wget on the main index file and > just > do a md5sum check on the retrieved file. Though I'm sure there's simpler > ways of doing this. > > -- > Samir > > On 7/24/07, Mike Scott wrote: > > > > wget + cron? > > > > - Mike Scott > > > > > > > -------- Original Message -------- > > > Subject: [LUNI] Pseudo RSS > > > From: "Jay Strauss" > > > Date: Tue, July 24, 2007 9:24 am > > > To: "Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion" > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > Does anyone know of a product/tool/script that could tell me when a > > > web page has changed? Sort of like RSS, but this site doesn't have > > > RSS. > > > > > > I need to watch this page on a bulletin board where fairly > > > infrequently someone posts a message that I need to know has been > > > posted. I hate having to remind myself to check all the time, and the > > > site has no provision to email. > > > > > > It'd be nice if I could have some utility do it for me. > > > > > > Thanks > > > Jay > > > -- > > > Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > > > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni > > > > -- > > Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni > > > -- > Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni > -- Frank Mileto b4f99998e3644679b5e815a35fcf2beb From jrstark at barntowire.com Tue Jul 24 12:45:52 2007 From: jrstark at barntowire.com (Janine Starykowicz) Date: Tue Jul 24 11:52:19 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Pseudo RSS In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <46A62CC0.5010905@barntowire.com> This sometimes takes a day or so to update for the free version, it sends a copy of the page via email: http://www.trackengine.com/ There are paid versions with more bookmarks and faster updates. Janine Jay Strauss wrote: > Hi, > > Does anyone know of a product/tool/script that could tell me when a > web page has changed? Sort of like RSS, but this site doesn't have > RSS. > > I need to watch this page on a bulletin board where fairly > infrequently someone posts a message that I need to know has been > posted. I hate having to remind myself to check all the time, and the > site has no provision to email. > > It'd be nice if I could have some utility do it for me. > > Thanks > Jay From jjirsa at comcast.net Tue Jul 24 18:14:42 2007 From: jjirsa at comcast.net (jjirsa@comcast.net) Date: Tue Jul 24 12:15:00 2007 Subject: [LUNI] No sound on a Dell OptiPlex GX260 Message-ID: <072420071714.97.46A63382000E887C0000006122007511500E9C9D070606@comcast.net> I recently installed Kubuntu Feisty on my "new" old Dell box, and sound just won't work on it. As far as I can tell, the installer configured it for AC97, and the Dell website tells me that there is an RPM for a "Analog Devices ADI 198x" that would work. KMix gives me the following when I run it from the command line: X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 154 Major opcode: 143 Minor opcode: 3 Resource id: 0x0 Failed to open device X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 154 Major opcode: 143 Minor opcode: 3 Resource id: 0x0 Failed to open device Can anyone help me out here? I can paste in alsa settings if it would help Thanks From frankmileto at gmail.com Tue Jul 24 15:07:41 2007 From: frankmileto at gmail.com (Frank Mileto) Date: Tue Jul 24 14:07:44 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Pseudo RSS In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <756258a30707241207m127ebd5cv2863de8efb8c8f0b@mail.gmail.com> Quick and dirty python works OK but you may want to have the script email you or run it on a open terminal #################### from urllib2 import urlopen from sys import argv import md5 from time import sleep def lookup(url,timer): while(1): page = urlopen(url) hash = md5.md5(page.read()) sleep(float(timer)) page = urlopen(url) hash2 = md5.md5(page.read()) if hash == hash2: continue else: print "page has been updated" lookup(argv[1],argv[2]) ############################## On 7/24/07, Jay Strauss wrote: > > Hi, > > Does anyone know of a product/tool/script that could tell me when a > web page has changed? Sort of like RSS, but this site doesn't have > RSS. > > I need to watch this page on a bulletin board where fairly > infrequently someone posts a message that I need to know has been > posted. I hate having to remind myself to check all the time, and the > site has no provision to email. > > It'd be nice if I could have some utility do it for me. > > Thanks > Jay > -- > Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni > -- Frank Mileto b4f99998e3644679b5e815a35fcf2beb From me at heyjay.com Tue Jul 24 16:24:56 2007 From: me at heyjay.com (Jay Strauss) Date: Tue Jul 24 15:24:59 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Pseudo RSS In-Reply-To: <756258a30707241207m127ebd5cv2863de8efb8c8f0b@mail.gmail.com> References: <756258a30707241207m127ebd5cv2863de8efb8c8f0b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Thanks everyone. I'll probably do the wget & md5, seems easy Jay From sjk at cupacoffee.net Tue Jul 24 19:01:00 2007 From: sjk at cupacoffee.net (sjk) Date: Tue Jul 24 18:01:07 2007 Subject: [LUNI] dm-crypt w/LUKS access Message-ID: <46A684AC.8080409@cupacoffee.net> I am looking at migrating some users off of good old CFS over to dm-crypt-luks. I can setup the crypt containers, but I cannot seem to find a way for users to mount or admin their keys -- I can do it as root with no problem. Does anyone have any experience using dm-crypt in a multi-user environment who may have some insight into this problem? TIA -- Steve -- ------------------------------------- http://www.auroraliberty.com sjk@cupacoffee.net No one can understand the truth until he drinks of coffee's frothy goodness. ~Sheik Abd-al-Kadir From slouchfuzz at ippimail.com Wed Jul 25 03:17:36 2007 From: slouchfuzz at ippimail.com (Jeff Y.) Date: Wed Jul 25 02:35:48 2007 Subject: [LUNI] No sound on a Dell OptiPlex GX260 In-Reply-To: <072420071714.97.46A63382000E887C0000006122007511500E9C9D070606@comcas t.net> References: <072420071714.97.46A63382000E887C0000006122007511500E9C9D070606@comcast.net> Message-ID: <36076.69.219.177.2.1185347856.squirrel@www.ippimail.com> > I recently installed Kubuntu Feisty on my "new" old Dell box, and sound > just won't work on it. As far as I can tell, the installer configured it > for AC97, and the Dell website tells me that there is an RPM for a "Analog > Devices ADI 198x" that would work. > > Have you tried 'lspci' (lspci -vvx)to check what sound device is detected and 'lsmod' to see what modules are getting loaded up? You might also want to boot off of a Knoppix disc and check what settings are being used. You didn't need to change anything in the BIOS in your GX260's previously life did you? Maybe reset it to the default settings and/or update the BIOS if it's been a while. Those AC97 onboard chips are pretty average sound chips so I wouldn't think this should be such a problem unless something else got in the way of the Ubuntu's autoconfig routine. Jeff -- Email and shopping with the feelgood factor! 55% of income to good causes. http://www.ippimail.com From richard at rushlogistics.com Wed Jul 25 07:04:17 2007 From: richard at rushlogistics.com (Richard Reina) Date: Wed Jul 25 08:04:30 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Image quality - who's to blame ( printing or scanning ) Message-ID: <922990.87733.qm@web615.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hello All, Recently I've undertaken the task of improving the image quality of documents scanned through our document scanner. After experimenting with different SANE scanimage commands I've found that it may not be a SANE (scanning) issue at all, but rather a print quality issue. What I mean to say is that the scanned documents actually look quite good when viewed with: $:display document.tiff However when I print the document it comes out light and subsequently hard to read. Can anyone help me shed some light on this matter? I'm not sure who's to blame (SANE or CUPS). Thanks, Richard Your beliefs become your thoughts. Your thoughts become your words. Your words become your actions. Your actions become your habits. Your habits become your values. Your values become your destiny. -- Mahatma Gandhi From mark at msbrepairs.com Wed Jul 25 10:11:12 2007 From: mark at msbrepairs.com (Mark Stuart Burge) Date: Wed Jul 25 09:07:49 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Image quality - who's to blame ( printing or scanning ) In-Reply-To: <922990.87733.qm@web615.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <922990.87733.qm@web615.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <46A75A00.1040803@msbrepairs.com> Hi Richard Have you tried some simple tests to half the problem. i.e. Print a test page from the printer properties screen, or create a text document, a tif image (using gimp or openoffice to originate it) and compare the results. If those all come out clean and crisp, then assuming the resolution is set at a reasonable size for the size of the scanned image, then you could look at the printer driver's 'dithering' method (again in properties for that printer) What printer is it ? a black and white laser, or a ink jet (I am assuming it is a laser at the moment) If all tiff images come out faded, yet text docs are ok, then, maybe look at the choice of driver and consider trying alternatives. For example, if the printer is a HP laserjet on pcl5, you can try various pcl drivers (laserjet 4, 5si, 4000) and compare the results. I hope some of these suggestions help you find a clue. Mark Richard Reina wrote: > Hello All, > > Recently I've undertaken the task of improving the image quality of documents scanned through our document scanner. After experimenting with different SANE scanimage commands I've found that it may not be a SANE (scanning) issue at all, but rather a print quality issue. What I mean to say is that the scanned documents actually look quite good when viewed with: > > $:display document.tiff > > However when I print the document it comes out light and subsequently hard to read. Can anyone help me shed some light on this matter? I'm not sure who's to blame (SANE or CUPS). > > Thanks, > > Richard > > > Your beliefs become your thoughts. Your thoughts become your words. Your words become your actions. Your actions become your habits. Your habits become your values. Your values become your destiny. -- Mahatma Gandhi > From trev at advanced-reality.com Wed Jul 25 10:19:33 2007 From: trev at advanced-reality.com (Trev Peterson) Date: Wed Jul 25 09:51:48 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Image quality - who's to blame ( printing or scanning ) In-Reply-To: <922990.87733.qm@web615.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <922990.87733.qm@web615.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1185373173.6378.29.camel@aegir.advanced-reality.com> A simple method of testing is to compare it to a known good version. You could print the tiff file on a PC with a known good printer (for tiff files) and/or print a known good tiff file with CUPS. Hope this helps, Trev On Wed, 2007-07-25 at 06:04 -0700, Richard Reina wrote: > Hello All, > > Recently I've undertaken the task of improving the image quality of documents scanned through our document scanner. After experimenting with different SANE scanimage commands I've found that it may not be a SANE (scanning) issue at all, but rather a print quality issue. What I mean to say is that the scanned documents actually look quite good when viewed with: > > $:display document.tiff > > However when I print the document it comes out light and subsequently hard to read. Can anyone help me shed some light on this matter? I'm not sure who's to blame (SANE or CUPS). > > Thanks, > > Richard > > > Your beliefs become your thoughts. Your thoughts become your words. Your words become your actions. Your actions become your habits. Your habits become your values. Your values become your destiny. -- Mahatma Gandhi -- Trev Peterson Advanced Reality Email: trev@advanced-reality.com Phone: +1 847 406 9018 From jjirsa at comcast.net Wed Jul 25 16:42:40 2007 From: jjirsa at comcast.net (jjirsa@comcast.net) Date: Wed Jul 25 10:43:00 2007 Subject: [LUNI] No sound on a Dell OptiPlex GX260 Message-ID: <072520071542.10494.46A76F70000B76A6000028FE22135396530E9C9D070606@comcast.net> lspci just shows generic info about the controller: 00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 01) Yah, I'll give Knoppix a shot; Knoppix or Fedora Core does better sound card detection than *buntu. -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Jeff Y." > > I recently installed Kubuntu Feisty on my "new" old Dell box, and sound > > just won't work on it. As far as I can tell, the installer configured it > > for AC97, and the Dell website tells me that there is an RPM for a "Analog > > Devices ADI 198x" that would work. > > > > > > Have you tried 'lspci' (lspci -vvx)to check what sound device is detected > and 'lsmod' to see what modules are getting loaded up? You might also want > to boot off of a Knoppix disc and check what settings are being used. > > You didn't need to change anything in the BIOS in your GX260's previously > life did you? Maybe reset it to the default settings and/or update the > BIOS if it's been a while. Those AC97 onboard chips are pretty average > sound chips so I wouldn't think this should be such a problem unless > something else got in the way of the Ubuntu's autoconfig routine. > Jeff > > > > -- > > Email and shopping with the feelgood factor! > 55% of income to good causes. http://www.ippimail.com > > -- > Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni From jjirsa at comcast.net Wed Jul 25 17:10:22 2007 From: jjirsa at comcast.net (jjirsa@comcast.net) Date: Wed Jul 25 11:10:31 2007 Subject: [LUNI] No sound on a Dell OptiPlex GX260 Message-ID: <072520071610.20154.46A775ED000DF18000004EBA22135396530E9C9D070606@comcast.net> I think that the module snd-al1889 "should" work (the strings command tells me the description for the driver is "Analog Devices AD1889 ALSA sound driver"), but what do I need to change in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base to make it work? Here is the contents of my current alsa-base: # autoloader aliases install sound-slot-0 /sbin/modprobe snd-card-0 install sound-slot-1 /sbin/modprobe snd-card-1 install sound-slot-2 /sbin/modprobe snd-card-2 install sound-slot-3 /sbin/modprobe snd-card-3 install sound-slot-4 /sbin/modprobe snd-card-4 install sound-slot-5 /sbin/modprobe snd-card-5 install sound-slot-6 /sbin/modprobe snd-card-6 install sound-slot-7 /sbin/modprobe snd-card-7 # Cause optional modules to be loaded above generic modules install snd /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd $CMDLINE_OPTS && { /sbin/modprobe -Qb snd-ioctl32 ; : ; } install snd-pcm /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-pcm $CMDLINE_OPTS && { /sbin/modprobe -Qb snd-pcm-oss ; : ; } install snd-mixer /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-mixer $CMDLINE_OPTS && { /sbin/modprobe --Qb snd-mixer-oss ; : ; } install snd-seq /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-seq $CMDLINE_OPTS && { /sbin/modprobe -Qb snd-seq-midi ; /sbin/modprobe --quiet snd-seq-oss ; : ; } # Cause optional modules to be loaded above sound card driver modules install snd-emu10k1 /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-emu10k1 $CMDLINE_OPTS && { /sbin/modprobe -Qb snd-emu10k1-synth ; } install snd-via82xx /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-via82xx $CMDLINE_OPTS && { /sbin/modprobe -Qb snd-seq ; } # Load saa7134-alsa instead of saa7134 (which gets dragged in by it anyway) install saa7134 /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install saa7134 $CMDLINE_OPTS && { /sbin/modprobe -Qb saa7134-alsa ; : ; } # Load snd-seq for devices that don't have hardware midi; # Ubuntu #26283, #43682, #56005; works around Ubuntu #34831 for # non-Creative Labs PCI hardware install snd /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd $CMDLINE_OPTS && { /sbin/modprobe -Qb snd-seq ; } # Prevent abnormal drivers from grabbing index 0 options snd-bt87x index=-2 options cx88-alsa index=-2 options saa7134-alsa index=-2 options snd-atiixp-modem index=-2 options snd-intel8x0m index=-2 options snd-via82xx-modem index=-2 options snd-usb-audio index=-2 options snd-usb-usx2y index=-2 # Ubuntu #62691, enable MPU for snd-cmipci options snd-cmipci mpu_port=0x330 fm_port=0x388 -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Jeff Y." > > I recently installed Kubuntu Feisty on my "new" old Dell box, and sound > > just won't work on it. As far as I can tell, the installer configured it > > for AC97, and the Dell website tells me that there is an RPM for a "Analog > > Devices ADI 198x" that would work. > > > > > > Have you tried 'lspci' (lspci -vvx)to check what sound device is detected > and 'lsmod' to see what modules are getting loaded up? You might also want > to boot off of a Knoppix disc and check what settings are being used. > > You didn't need to change anything in the BIOS in your GX260's previously > life did you? Maybe reset it to the default settings and/or update the > BIOS if it's been a while. Those AC97 onboard chips are pretty average > sound chips so I wouldn't think this should be such a problem unless > something else got in the way of the Ubuntu's autoconfig routine. > Jeff > > > > -- > > Email and shopping with the feelgood factor! > 55% of income to good causes. http://www.ippimail.com > > -- > Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni From trev at advanced-reality.com Wed Jul 25 12:00:05 2007 From: trev at advanced-reality.com (Trev Peterson) Date: Wed Jul 25 11:14:19 2007 Subject: [LUNI] No sound on a Dell OptiPlex GX260 In-Reply-To: <072520071542.10494.46A76F70000B76A6000028FE22135396530E9C9D070606@comcast.net> References: <072520071542.10494.46A76F70000B76A6000028FE22135396530E9C9D070606@comcast.net> Message-ID: <1185379205.6378.36.camel@aegir.advanced-reality.com> Before you do that you may want to see if the device exists in /dev. I believe it is /dev/audio in Ubuntu. If it does exist try setting an appropriate volume and then: cat /dev/urandom > /dev/audio You should hear static on the speakers. If you do the module is loading and working. Hope this helps, Trev On Wed, 2007-07-25 at 15:42 +0000, jjirsa@comcast.net wrote: > lspci just shows generic info about the controller: > > 00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 01) > > Yah, I'll give Knoppix a shot; Knoppix or Fedora Core does better sound card detection than *buntu. > > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > From: "Jeff Y." > > > I recently installed Kubuntu Feisty on my "new" old Dell box, and sound > > > just won't work on it. As far as I can tell, the installer configured it > > > for AC97, and the Dell website tells me that there is an RPM for a "Analog > > > Devices ADI 198x" that would work. > > > > > > > > > > Have you tried 'lspci' (lspci -vvx)to check what sound device is detected > > and 'lsmod' to see what modules are getting loaded up? You might also want > > to boot off of a Knoppix disc and check what settings are being used. > > > > You didn't need to change anything in the BIOS in your GX260's previously > > life did you? Maybe reset it to the default settings and/or update the > > BIOS if it's been a while. Those AC97 onboard chips are pretty average > > sound chips so I wouldn't think this should be such a problem unless > > something else got in the way of the Ubuntu's autoconfig routine. > > Jeff > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Email and shopping with the feelgood factor! > > 55% of income to good causes. http://www.ippimail.com > > > > -- > > Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni > -- Trev Peterson Advanced Reality Email: trev@advanced-reality.com Phone: +1 847 406 9018 From jjirsa at comcast.net Wed Jul 25 17:53:42 2007 From: jjirsa at comcast.net (jjirsa@comcast.net) Date: Wed Jul 25 11:54:01 2007 Subject: [LUNI] No sound on a Dell OptiPlex GX260 Message-ID: <072520071653.21246.46A78016000C1E3A000052FE22135396530E9C9D070606@comcast.net> Yah, I'm getting static; so it kinda works? -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Trev Peterson > Before you do that you may want to see if the device exists in /dev. I > believe it is /dev/audio in Ubuntu. If it does exist try setting an > appropriate volume and then: > > cat /dev/urandom > /dev/audio > > You should hear static on the speakers. If you do the module is loading > and working. Hope this helps, > > Trev > > > On Wed, 2007-07-25 at 15:42 +0000, jjirsa@comcast.net wrote: > > lspci just shows generic info about the controller: > > > > 00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM > (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 01) > > > > Yah, I'll give Knoppix a shot; Knoppix or Fedora Core does better sound card > detection than *buntu. > > > > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > > From: "Jeff Y." > > > > I recently installed Kubuntu Feisty on my "new" old Dell box, and sound > > > > just won't work on it. As far as I can tell, the installer configured it > > > > for AC97, and the Dell website tells me that there is an RPM for a "Analog > > > > Devices ADI 198x" that would work. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Have you tried 'lspci' (lspci -vvx)to check what sound device is detected > > > and 'lsmod' to see what modules are getting loaded up? You might also want > > > to boot off of a Knoppix disc and check what settings are being used. > > > > > > You didn't need to change anything in the BIOS in your GX260's previously > > > life did you? Maybe reset it to the default settings and/or update the > > > BIOS if it's been a while. Those AC97 onboard chips are pretty average > > > sound chips so I wouldn't think this should be such a problem unless > > > something else got in the way of the Ubuntu's autoconfig routine. > > > Jeff > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Email and shopping with the feelgood factor! > > > 55% of income to good causes. http://www.ippimail.com > > > > > > -- > > > Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > > > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni > > > -- > Trev Peterson > Advanced Reality > Email: trev@advanced-reality.com > Phone: +1 847 406 9018 > > > -- > Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni From trev at advanced-reality.com Wed Jul 25 17:05:46 2007 From: trev at advanced-reality.com (Trev Peterson) Date: Wed Jul 25 16:20:03 2007 Subject: [LUNI] No sound on a Dell OptiPlex GX260 In-Reply-To: <072520071653.21246.46A78016000C1E3A000052FE22135396530E9C9D070606@comcast.net> References: <072520071653.21246.46A78016000C1E3A000052FE22135396530E9C9D070606@comcast.net> Message-ID: <1185397546.6378.53.camel@aegir.advanced-reality.com> If you get static then the modules are loaded and the basic sound system is working so I wouldn't waste any time looking for the drivers. I suggest you find the "Multimedia Systems Selector" it's under the System menu on my Gentoo box but it may be different for Ubuntu. From this dialog you can change your default output plugin and test it. Try all the options. If none work try playing an MP3 or something from a command line tool (to verify that the problem is in the GNOME layer). Hope this helps, Trev On Wed, 2007-07-25 at 16:53 +0000, jjirsa@comcast.net wrote: > Yah, I'm getting static; so it kinda works? > > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > From: Trev Peterson > > Before you do that you may want to see if the device exists in /dev. I > > believe it is /dev/audio in Ubuntu. If it does exist try setting an > > appropriate volume and then: > > > > cat /dev/urandom > /dev/audio > > > > You should hear static on the speakers. If you do the module is loading > > and working. Hope this helps, > > > > Trev > > > > > > On Wed, 2007-07-25 at 15:42 +0000, jjirsa@comcast.net wrote: > > > lspci just shows generic info about the controller: > > > > > > 00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM > > (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 01) > > > > > > Yah, I'll give Knoppix a shot; Knoppix or Fedora Core does better sound card > > detection than *buntu. > > > > > > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > > > From: "Jeff Y." > > > > > I recently installed Kubuntu Feisty on my "new" old Dell box, and sound > > > > > just won't work on it. As far as I can tell, the installer configured it > > > > > for AC97, and the Dell website tells me that there is an RPM for a "Analog > > > > > Devices ADI 198x" that would work. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Have you tried 'lspci' (lspci -vvx)to check what sound device is detected > > > > and 'lsmod' to see what modules are getting loaded up? You might also want > > > > to boot off of a Knoppix disc and check what settings are being used. > > > > > > > > You didn't need to change anything in the BIOS in your GX260's previously > > > > life did you? Maybe reset it to the default settings and/or update the > > > > BIOS if it's been a while. Those AC97 onboard chips are pretty average > > > > sound chips so I wouldn't think this should be such a problem unless > > > > something else got in the way of the Ubuntu's autoconfig routine. > > > > Jeff > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > Email and shopping with the feelgood factor! > > > > 55% of income to good causes. http://www.ippimail.com > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > > > > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni > > > > > -- > > Trev Peterson > > Advanced Reality > > Email: trev@advanced-reality.com > > Phone: +1 847 406 9018 > > > > > > -- > > Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni > -- Trev Peterson Advanced Reality Email: trev@advanced-reality.com Phone: +1 847 406 9018 From richard at rushlogistics.com Wed Jul 25 15:26:55 2007 From: richard at rushlogistics.com (Richard Reina) Date: Wed Jul 25 16:27:11 2007 Subject: [LUNI] userdel, useradd madness Message-ID: <490694.98038.qm@web603.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I am having problems with userdel and useradd on my Centos master NIS server . If I do: #:userdel kellie and then: #:useradd -u 515 kellie I get: useradd: user kellie exist. Despite there being no entry for her in /etc/passwd, /etc/group, or /etc/shadow and no home directory for her. Can anyone help me shed some light on this? Thanks, Richard Your beliefs become your thoughts. Your thoughts become your words. Your words become your actions. Your actions become your habits. Your habits become your values. Your values become your destiny. -- Mahatma Gandhi From trev at advanced-reality.com Wed Jul 25 17:20:55 2007 From: trev at advanced-reality.com (Trev Peterson) Date: Wed Jul 25 16:35:07 2007 Subject: [LUNI] userdel, useradd madness In-Reply-To: <490694.98038.qm@web603.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <490694.98038.qm@web603.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1185398455.6378.56.camel@aegir.advanced-reality.com> Are you sure there is not already a user w/ uid 515? Trev On Wed, 2007-07-25 at 14:26 -0700, Richard Reina wrote: > I am having problems with userdel and useradd on my Centos master NIS server . If I do: > > #:userdel kellie > and then: > #:useradd -u 515 kellie > I get: > useradd: user kellie exist. > Despite there being no entry for her in /etc/passwd, /etc/group, or /etc/shadow and no home directory for her. Can anyone help me shed some light on this? > > Thanks, > > Richard > > > Your beliefs become your thoughts. Your thoughts become your words. Your words become your actions. Your actions become your habits. Your habits become your values. Your values become your destiny. -- Mahatma Gandhi -- Trev Peterson Advanced Reality Email: trev@advanced-reality.com Phone: +1 847 406 9018 From richard at rushlogistics.com Wed Jul 25 15:48:19 2007 From: richard at rushlogistics.com (Richard Reina) Date: Wed Jul 25 16:48:32 2007 Subject: [LUNI] userdel, useradd madness In-Reply-To: <1185398455.6378.56.camel@aegir.advanced-reality.com> Message-ID: <711569.34678.qm@web602.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Yes. However, kellie used to have uid 515 and I need for her to have it again. Trev Peterson wrote: Are you sure there is not already a user w/ uid 515? Trev On Wed, 2007-07-25 at 14:26 -0700, Richard Reina wrote: > I am having problems with userdel and useradd on my Centos master NIS server . If I do: > > #:userdel kellie > and then: > #:useradd -u 515 kellie > I get: > useradd: user kellie exist. > Despite there being no entry for her in /etc/passwd, /etc/group, or /etc/shadow and no home directory for her. Can anyone help me shed some light on this? > > Thanks, > > Richard > > > Your beliefs become your thoughts. Your thoughts become your words. Your words become your actions. Your actions become your habits. Your habits become your values. Your values become your destiny. -- Mahatma Gandhi -- Trev Peterson Advanced Reality Email: trev@advanced-reality.com Phone: +1 847 406 9018 -- Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni Your beliefs become your thoughts. Your thoughts become your words. Your words become your actions. Your actions become your habits. Your habits become your values. Your values become your destiny. -- Mahatma Gandhi From dbt at meat.net Wed Jul 25 17:51:07 2007 From: dbt at meat.net (David Terrell) Date: Wed Jul 25 16:51:09 2007 Subject: [LUNI] userdel, useradd madness In-Reply-To: <711569.34678.qm@web602.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <1185398455.6378.56.camel@aegir.advanced-reality.com> <711569.34678.qm@web602.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20070725215107.GD11901@sphinx.chicagopeoplez.org> On Wed, Jul 25, 2007 at 02:48:19PM -0700, Richard Reina wrote: > Yes. However, kellie used to have uid 515 and I need for her to have it again. > Two users sharing the same userid is bad. You have to renumber the other user with 515, chown all the files they should own to their new userid, and then re-add kellie. -- David Terrell dbt@meat.net ((meatspace)) http://meat.net/ From trev at advanced-reality.com Wed Jul 25 17:38:15 2007 From: trev at advanced-reality.com (Trev Peterson) Date: Wed Jul 25 16:52:29 2007 Subject: [LUNI] userdel, useradd madness In-Reply-To: <490694.98038.qm@web603.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <490694.98038.qm@web603.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1185399495.6378.59.camel@aegir.advanced-reality.com> You may also want to check: /var/yp//passwd.by* files as these contain a map and may make the user still appear to exist in NIS. Hope this helps, Trev On Wed, 2007-07-25 at 14:26 -0700, Richard Reina wrote: > I am having problems with userdel and useradd on my Centos master NIS server . If I do: > > #:userdel kellie > and then: > #:useradd -u 515 kellie > I get: > useradd: user kellie exist. > Despite there being no entry for her in /etc/passwd, /etc/group, or /etc/shadow and no home directory for her. Can anyone help me shed some light on this? > > Thanks, > > Richard > > > Your beliefs become your thoughts. Your thoughts become your words. Your words become your actions. Your actions become your habits. Your habits become your values. Your values become your destiny. -- Mahatma Gandhi -- Trev Peterson Advanced Reality Email: trev@advanced-reality.com Phone: +1 847 406 9018 From richard at rushlogistics.com Wed Jul 25 15:59:08 2007 From: richard at rushlogistics.com (Richard Reina) Date: Wed Jul 25 16:59:16 2007 Subject: [LUNI] userdel, useradd madness In-Reply-To: <20070725215107.GD11901@sphinx.chicagopeoplez.org> Message-ID: <560294.48734.qm@web611.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi David, Thanks for the quick response. I'm not sure I follow you. There is only one user, kellie. I deleted her and need to add her back and I was hoping I could do so with the same UID. Are you saying I should not? Thanks, Richard David Terrell wrote: On Wed, Jul 25, 2007 at 02:48:19PM -0700, Richard Reina wrote: > Yes. However, kellie used to have uid 515 and I need for her to have it again. > Two users sharing the same userid is bad. You have to renumber the other user with 515, chown all the files they should own to their new userid, and then re-add kellie. -- David Terrell dbt@meat.net ((meatspace)) http://meat.net/ -- Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni Your beliefs become your thoughts. Your thoughts become your words. Your words become your actions. Your actions become your habits. Your habits become your values. Your values become your destiny. -- Mahatma Gandhi From trev at advanced-reality.com Wed Jul 25 17:55:45 2007 From: trev at advanced-reality.com (Trev Peterson) Date: Wed Jul 25 17:09:58 2007 Subject: [LUNI] userdel, useradd madness In-Reply-To: <560294.48734.qm@web611.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <560294.48734.qm@web611.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1185400545.6378.68.camel@aegir.advanced-reality.com> If you delete her you should not have any user with uid 515. You can test this by doing an useradd without the -u 515. If it works then there is some config file that still has the uid 515. Alternatively it could be the /var/yp//passwd.byname or passwd.byuid files make it appear that kellie exists in NIS so (adduser checks NIS as well as /etc/passwd). Assuming this is a small network you may want to stop the NIS server then add kellie (with the -u 515) and then restart it. Hope this helps, Trev On Wed, 2007-07-25 at 14:59 -0700, Richard Reina wrote: > Hi David, > > Thanks for the quick response. I'm not sure I follow you. There is only one user, kellie. I deleted her and need to add her back and I was hoping I could do so with the same UID. Are you saying I should not? > > Thanks, > > Richard -- Trev Peterson Advanced Reality Email: trev@advanced-reality.com Phone: +1 847 406 9018 From brian at planetshwoop.com Wed Jul 25 21:03:08 2007 From: brian at planetshwoop.com (Brian Sobolak) Date: Wed Jul 25 19:53:24 2007 Subject: [LUNI] ANN: This Thursday is a UFO-Chicago Thursday! Message-ID: <20070726010308.GA14633@planetshwoop.com> This Thursday is a UFO-Chicago Thursday, an opportunity for free and open source enthusiasts to gather and discuss issues affecting our community. We meet at the spectacular Golden Nugget Pancake House at 4229 W Irving Park Rd., just minutes away from the Kennedy Expressway, Metra, the Blue Line, and the Museum of Dry Cleaning in Chicago's historic Old Irving Park neighborhood. Our jovial meeting begins at 8pm. For more info, please visit: http://ufo.chicago.il.us/ Hope to see you there! brian -- Brian Sobolak brian @ planetshwoop.com http://www.planetshwoop.com/ "Bad taste is real taste, of course, and good taste is the residue of someone else's privilege..." -- David Hickey -- Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Announcements Mailing List http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni-announce From slouchfuzz at ippimail.com Thu Jul 26 00:42:38 2007 From: slouchfuzz at ippimail.com (Jeff Y.) Date: Wed Jul 25 23:43:01 2007 Subject: [LUNI] No sound on a Dell OptiPlex GX260 In-Reply-To: <072520071653.21246.46A78016000C1E3A000052FE22135396530E9C9D070606@com cast.net> References: <072520071653.21246.46A78016000C1E3A000052FE22135396530E9C9D070606@comcast.net> Message-ID: <33053.69.219.178.252.1185424958.squirrel@www.ippimail.com> > Yah, I'm getting static; so it kinda works? > Seems like your sound setup is working OK. Open a terminal and use 'alsamixer' to check the levels on your Master and PCM settings. Try something like 'play /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav'. J