From cgmckeever at gmail.com Thu Mar 1 11:29:06 2007 From: cgmckeever at gmail.com (Chris McKeever) Date: Thu Mar 1 11:29:23 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Inter7 - anyone work with them? Message-ID: Had been in communication with Inter7 regarding their small business asterisks phone system (http://www.inter7.com/?page=smalloffice). Met with a sales rep and went over some initial implementation specs. the project has pretty much been given a green light, and Inter7 has basically went MIA - Has anyone worked with them? Good / Bad? I guess this segues into the next question - does anyone know of a reputable shop for rolling out an asterisks phone system - 2 office connected via a tunnelled Internet connection. Thanks Chris From craig at codestorm.org Thu Mar 1 15:26:00 2007 From: craig at codestorm.org (Craig Van Tassle) Date: Thu Mar 1 15:21:26 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Inter7 - anyone work with them? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <45E744E8.2030402@codestorm.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I have not worked with them, but I do know Fonality (http://www.fonality.com/) has a good phone system based on Asterisk. You may want to talk to them. Chris McKeever wrote: > Had been in communication with Inter7 regarding their small business > asterisks phone system (http://www.inter7.com/?page=smalloffice). Met > with a sales rep and went over some initial implementation specs. > > the project has pretty much been given a green light, and Inter7 has > basically went MIA - > > Has anyone worked with them? Good / Bad? > > I guess this segues into the next question - does anyone know of a > reputable shop for rolling out an asterisks phone system - 2 office > connected via a tunnelled Internet connection. > > Thanks > Chris -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFF50ToAOTIJ89W4sIRAvz+AJ9nlKRcdZIs//5o/nHt/cCWxJoaZgCdHk7w 5WnM0rCOvXbYJLJcrqMZJmg= =cQ2r -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From skie at dragonsvalley.com Thu Mar 1 16:09:11 2007 From: skie at dragonsvalley.com (Branko Kotur) Date: Thu Mar 1 16:14:24 2007 Subject: [LUNI] 64bit Linux and Xen Message-ID: <200703011609.11693.skie@dragonsvalley.com> I currently have a server I'm playing with that has an AMD Opteron 185 (dual core and 64bit). I have CentOS 4.4 64bit installed. I've then installed Xen 3.0.2-2 and am running that under Dom0. When I try to run qemu to install a DomU copy of CentOS, I get the following error: "Your cpu does not support long mode. Use a 32bit distribution." >From my understanding, Xen 3.0 supports 64bit guests. Did I perhaps screw up something while compiling the Dom0 kernel? Google only gives me people that are using a 64bit install CD on a 32bit CPU. I've found only 1 search result concerning Xen and it was never answered. The guide that I'm using is this one: http://mitopia.net/index.php/Xen_3.0.2_Setup . I've followed that guide almost word for word (I had to do things differently here and there just to get it to work). Any thoughts on this? Branko From seva at sevatech.com Thu Mar 1 17:33:31 2007 From: seva at sevatech.com (Seva Epsteyn) Date: Thu Mar 1 17:33:33 2007 Subject: [LUNI] 64bit Linux and Xen In-Reply-To: <200703011609.11693.skie@dragonsvalley.com> References: <200703011609.11693.skie@dragonsvalley.com> Message-ID: You don't need qemu to install DomU copy of CentOS. Try something like http://wiki.xensource.com/xenwiki/Centos4Yuminstallation -Seva On Thu, 1 Mar 2007, Branko Kotur wrote: > I currently have a server I'm playing with that has an AMD Opteron 185 (dual > core and 64bit). I have CentOS 4.4 64bit installed. I've then installed Xen > 3.0.2-2 and am running that under Dom0. When I try to run qemu to install a > DomU copy of CentOS, I get the following error: > > "Your cpu does not support long mode. Use a 32bit distribution." > > >From my understanding, Xen 3.0 supports 64bit guests. Did I perhaps screw up > something while compiling the Dom0 kernel? Google only gives me people that > are using a 64bit install CD on a 32bit CPU. I've found only 1 search result > concerning Xen and it was never answered. The guide that I'm using is this > one: http://mitopia.net/index.php/Xen_3.0.2_Setup . I've followed that guide > almost word for word (I had to do things differently here and there just to > get it to work). > > Any thoughts on this? > > Branko > > From skie at dragonsvalley.com Thu Mar 1 17:47:00 2007 From: skie at dragonsvalley.com (Branko Kotur) Date: Thu Mar 1 17:52:10 2007 Subject: [LUNI] 64bit Linux and Xen In-Reply-To: References: <200703011609.11693.skie@dragonsvalley.com> Message-ID: <200703011747.00849.skie@dragonsvalley.com> On Thursday 01 March 2007 5:33 pm, Seva Epsteyn wrote: > You don't need qemu to install DomU copy of CentOS. Try something > like http://wiki.xensource.com/xenwiki/Centos4Yuminstallation > > -Seva Thanks for the link. I'll try this tonight. I originally tried an rpmstrap method that failed miserably for me. The link I gave in my original email was one of the few install methods that I was able to find that seemed decent. From sfaci at cs.uic.edu Thu Mar 1 19:52:14 2007 From: sfaci at cs.uic.edu (Samir Faci) Date: Thu Mar 1 20:15:54 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Flourish Registration Message-ID: Hello everyone, For those who aren't aware, Flourish is a conference being hosted at UIC that will be focusing on Free and Open Source software. I've included the original Open Invite in this email, and if you have an interest please visit the website for more info. (http://www.flourishconf.com). The event will be free for anyone to attend (who pre-registers). For anyone who doesn't register there will be a $10 fee. Also, IF (big if) we do get t-shirts for the event, those who register get complimentary t-shirts, those who don't will be able to purchase one if we have any left over. If you're planning to attend, please register at: http://www.flourishconf.com/registration.php If you have any questions, please feel free to contact me. -- Regards Samir Faci -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: ShortOpenInvite.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 42099 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://luni.org/pipermail/luni/attachments/20070301/5d59c57a/ShortOpenInvite-0001.pdf From luni at pyewacket.org Fri Mar 2 12:17:10 2007 From: luni at pyewacket.org (Mike Scott) Date: Fri Mar 2 13:17:17 2007 Subject: [LUNI] FYI - Lenovo battery recall Message-ID: <20070302121710.6095274834031e3691077dcdffae0724.0652e1fb1b.wbe@email.secureserver.net> For any ThinkPad users out there... On March 1, 2007, Lenovo voluntarily recalled approximately 208,000 9-cell lithium-ion batteries. These batteries were manufactured for use with ThinkPad notebook computers that shipped worldwide between November 2005 and February 2007. According to the U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission if the battery in the laptop is struck forcefully on the corner, such as from a direct fall to the ground, the battery pack can overheat and pose a fire hazard to users. This is not an internal battery cell defect. Laptops affected: • ThinkPad R60 and R60e Series • ThinkPad T60 and T60p Series • ThinkPad Z60m, Z61e, Z61m, and Z61p Series Lenovo Battery Recall identification website http://www.lenovo.com/batteryprogram - Mike Scott From sfaci at cs.uic.edu Fri Mar 2 14:15:25 2007 From: sfaci at cs.uic.edu (Samir Faci) Date: Fri Mar 2 14:15:30 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Flourish Registration In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello everyone, For those who aren't aware, Flourish is a conference being hosted at UIC that will be focusing on Free and Open Source software. I've included the original Open Invite link at the bottom of my email, and if you have an interest please visit the website for more info. ( http://www.flourishconf.com). The event will be free for anyone to attend (who pre-registers). For anyone who doesn't register there will be a $10 fee. Also, IF (big if) we do get t-shirts for the event, those who register get complimentary t-shirts, those who don't will be able to purchase one if we have any left over. If you're planning to attend, please register at: http://www.flourishconf.com/registration.php If you have any questions, please feel free to contact me. OpenLetter: http://www.flourishconf.com/docs/ShortOpenInvite.pdf -- Regards Samir Faci From samir at esamir.com Fri Mar 2 23:38:22 2007 From: samir at esamir.com (Samir Faci) Date: Fri Mar 2 23:39:14 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Flourish Registration In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <53930.192.168.1.111.1172900302.squirrel@192.168.1.100> Hey guys, sorry about the double post. I thought the email got rejected due to the attachment. Okay, last shameless plug for a while about flourish, now returning to your regular luni programming. -- Samir > Hello everyone, > > For those who aren't aware, Flourish is a conference being hosted > at UIC that will be focusing on Free and Open Source software. I've > included the original Open Invite in this email, and if you have an > interest please visit the website for more info. > (http://www.flourishconf.com). > > The event will be free for anyone to attend (who pre-registers). For > anyone who doesn't register there will be a $10 fee. > > Also, IF (big if) we do get t-shirts for the event, those who register > get complimentary t-shirts, those who don't will be able to purchase > one if we have any left over. > > If you're planning to attend, please register at: > > http://www.flourishconf.com/registration.php > > If you have any questions, please feel free to contact me. > > > -- > Regards > Samir Faci > -- > Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni > -- Samir Faci samir@esamir.com -- php -r "system( perl -e 'exec python -c \' system(ruby -e \\' IO.popen(\\\\' /bin/bash \\\\') \\') \' ' );" .--. |o_o | Freedom of Choice |:_/ | __ // \ \ / / __ __ __ __ __ __ __ (| | ) / /__ / / / \/ / / /_/ / \ \/ / /'\_ _/`\ /_____/ /_/ /_/\__/ /_____/ /_/\_\ \___)=(___/ From maney at two14.net Sat Mar 3 09:11:15 2007 From: maney at two14.net (Martin Maney) Date: Sat Mar 3 09:11:32 2007 Subject: [LUNI] 64bit Linux and Xen In-Reply-To: <200703011747.00849.skie@dragonsvalley.com> References: <200703011609.11693.skie@dragonsvalley.com> <200703011747.00849.skie@dragonsvalley.com> Message-ID: <20070303151115.GA15805@furrr.two14.net> On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 05:47:00PM -0600, Branko Kotur wrote: > Thanks for the link. I'll try this tonight. I originally tried an rpmstrap > method that failed miserably for me. The link I gave in my original email Was that using the xen-tools stuff? I haven't tried any of their RPM-based setups, but the deb-based ones I've tried so far have been usable. Not perfect - they omit some surprising things (I can't remember the last time I saw a newly installed machine without less, to cite one that stuck in my mind), and there are some limitations to your choices, but it worked quite well enough to get it to the point I could lay hands on the guest domain and finish the job. http://xen-tools.org/software/xen-tools/ -- If software vendors have liability costs, they'll pass those on to us. It might not be cheaper than what we're paying today, but as long as we're going to pay, we might as well pay to fix the problem. -- Bruce Schneier From skie at dragonsvalley.com Sat Mar 3 09:17:47 2007 From: skie at dragonsvalley.com (Branko Kotur) Date: Sat Mar 3 09:23:16 2007 Subject: [LUNI] 64bit Linux and Xen In-Reply-To: <20070303151115.GA15805@furrr.two14.net> References: <200703011609.11693.skie@dragonsvalley.com> <200703011747.00849.skie@dragonsvalley.com> <20070303151115.GA15805@furrr.two14.net> Message-ID: <200703030917.47480.skie@dragonsvalley.com> On Saturday 03 March 2007 9:11 am, Martin Maney wrote: > Was that using the xen-tools stuff? I haven't tried any of their > RPM-based setups, but the deb-based ones I've tried so far have been > usable. Not perfect - they omit some surprising things (I can't > remember the last time I saw a newly installed machine without less, to > cite one that stuck in my mind), and there are some limitations to your > choices, but it worked quite well enough to get it to the point I could > lay hands on the guest domain and finish the job. > > http://xen-tools.org/software/xen-tools/ > I wasn't aware of xen-tools. I'll look into it. The link given before worked very well for me but I ran out of time to play around. But it's the first thing that seemed to help me get a working DomU. At the moment, I don't remember what URL I used to do the rpmstrap. From mswier at yahoo.com Sun Mar 4 10:57:55 2007 From: mswier at yahoo.com (Mike Swier) Date: Sun Mar 4 12:58:15 2007 Subject: [LUNI] ANN: NWCLUG's next meeting 3/6/07 Message-ID: <596229.64492.qm@web57013.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Hi, NWCLUG's next meeting will be at Harper College in A242 at 7pm on Tuesday 2/6/07. We will be talking about LDAP. For (a bit) more info see http://nwclug.org/httpd/html/meetings.html#nextmtg mikie -- Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Announcements Mailing List http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni-announce From chris.mcavoy at gmail.com Tue Mar 6 14:03:47 2007 From: chris.mcavoy at gmail.com (Chris McAvoy) Date: Tue Mar 6 14:04:03 2007 Subject: [LUNI] ChiPy March Meeting Thursday 3/8 RSVP encouraged Message-ID: <3096c19d0703061203y310f7dd4r433e6f261b8d7cd3@mail.gmail.com> Chicago Python User Group ========================= Come join us for our best meeting ever! Pizza and drinks will be served, courtesy of Google. RSVP's are not needed, but are encouraged. Write chris.mcavoy@gmail.com with the subject line "RSVP Chipy" Topics ------ * PyCon 2007 re-cap * "Unicode for Small Children (and Children at Heart)" by Feihong Hsu * Ian Bicking will bring his OLPC laptop (http://laptop.org) and will discuss ideas for a Chicago Sprint around XO Sugar development * Pete Fein will present a project he came up with during the Pycon sprints, "GrassyKnoll" Location -------- Google's Chicago office 20 West Kinzie Street, 9th Floor Chicago, IL 60610 Location description: "18 story glass and steel building on the Northwest corner of Dearborn and Kinzie." "Across the street from Harry Carey's" "Upstairs from Keefer's restaurant" * Map Enter via the lobby on the South side of the building, between Keefer's restaurant and Keefer's cafe. Street (meter) parking is kinda sorta available in the area. Garage and lot parking is also available Southwest and East of our building. 1. The closest "L" stop is Grand on the Red Line and Clark/Lake on the "Blue/Green/Orange/Brown/Purple Line". (All are about an 8 minute walk from Google) 2. The closest Metra station is the Ogilvie Transportation Center (in the Citibank building) (about 20 minutes walk or take the Riverbus) 3. The closest River Bus stop is at Michigan Avenue (By the Wrigley Building at 2 North Riverside Plaza. () ;-) 4. The nearest helipad is at the mouth of the river, near Navy Pier. Obtain security clearance before landing. About ChiPy ----------- ChiPy is a group of Chicago Python Programmers, l33t, and n00bs. Meetings are held monthly at various locations around Chicago. Also, ChiPy is a proud sponsor of many Open Source and Educational efforts in Chicago. Stay tuned to the mailing list for more info. ChiPy website: ChiPy Mailing List: Python website: From chris.mcavoy at gmail.com Tue Mar 6 14:36:26 2007 From: chris.mcavoy at gmail.com (Chris McAvoy) Date: Tue Mar 6 14:36:30 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Re: ChiPy March Meeting Thursday 3/8 RSVP encouraged In-Reply-To: <3096c19d0703061203y310f7dd4r433e6f261b8d7cd3@mail.gmail.com> References: <3096c19d0703061203y310f7dd4r433e6f261b8d7cd3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3096c19d0703061236r64ba9d74wd9f8d5f5b9b2b2e6@mail.gmail.com> For the curious, this meeting will be held at 7pm. Special thanks to "Bradley Slavik", the winner of our "spot the typos" contest. Bradley will be receiving his prize of knowledge (and Pizza) Thursday, March 8th at 7pm. Chris On 3/6/07, Chris McAvoy wrote: > Chicago Python User Group > ========================= > > Come join us for our best meeting ever! Pizza and drinks will be > served, courtesy of Google. RSVP's are not needed, but are > encouraged. Write chris.mcavoy@gmail.com with the subject line "RSVP > Chipy" > > Topics > ------ > > * PyCon 2007 re-cap > * "Unicode for Small Children (and Children at Heart)" by Feihong Hsu > * Ian Bicking will bring his OLPC laptop (http://laptop.org) and will > discuss ideas for a Chicago Sprint around XO Sugar development > * Pete Fein will present a project he came up with during the Pycon > sprints, "GrassyKnoll" > > Location > -------- > > Google's Chicago office > 20 West Kinzie Street, 9th Floor > Chicago, IL 60610 > > Location description: > "18 story glass and steel building on the Northwest corner of Dearborn > and Kinzie." > "Across the street from Harry Carey's" > "Upstairs from Keefer's restaurant" > > * Map > > Enter via the lobby on the South side of the building, between Keefer's > restaurant and Keefer's cafe. > > Street (meter) parking is kinda sorta available in the area. Garage and > lot parking is also available Southwest and East of our building. > > 1. The closest "L" stop is Grand on the Red Line and Clark/Lake on the > "Blue/Green/Orange/Brown/Purple Line". (All are about an 8 minute walk > from Google) > 2. The closest Metra station is the Ogilvie Transportation Center (in > the Citibank building) (about 20 minutes walk or take the Riverbus) > 3. The closest River Bus stop is at Michigan Avenue (By the Wrigley > Building at 2 North Riverside Plaza. > () ;-) > 4. The nearest helipad is at the mouth of the river, near Navy Pier. > Obtain security clearance before landing. > > About ChiPy > ----------- > > ChiPy is a group of Chicago Python Programmers, l33t, and n00bs. > Meetings are held monthly at various locations around Chicago. > Also, ChiPy is a proud sponsor of many Open Source and Educational > efforts in Chicago. Stay tuned to the mailing list for more info. > > ChiPy website: > ChiPy Mailing List: > Python website: > From knura at yahoo.com Wed Mar 7 22:22:27 2007 From: knura at yahoo.com (Arun K. Khan) Date: Wed Mar 7 10:53:55 2007 Subject: [LUNI] DST changes :: a how to for Linux boxes Message-ID: <1173286347.10396.18.camel@genesis.intra.silverarc.biz> A how to for ensuring that your Linux box is all set to handle the DST changes. http://www.linux-watch.com/news/NS6300294422.html -- arun khan From mscott at pyewacket.org Wed Mar 7 12:54:08 2007 From: mscott at pyewacket.org (Mike Scott) Date: Wed Mar 7 13:54:16 2007 Subject: [LUNI] DST changes :: a how to for Linux boxes Message-ID: <20070307125408.6095274834031e3691077dcdffae0724.924350b2da.wbe@email.secureserver.net> Very cool. I was wondering how I was going to handle this mess on my old RH 7.3 box. - Mike Scott > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: [LUNI] DST changes :: a how to for Linux boxes > From: "Arun K. Khan" > Date: Wed, March 07, 2007 10:52 am > To: luni > > A how to for ensuring that your Linux box is all set to handle the DST > changes. > > http://www.linux-watch.com/news/NS6300294422.html > > -- arun khan > > -- > Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni From cgmckeever at gmail.com Wed Mar 7 14:04:27 2007 From: cgmckeever at gmail.com (Chris McKeever) Date: Wed Mar 7 14:04:34 2007 Subject: [LUNI] DST changes :: a how to for Linux boxes In-Reply-To: <20070307125408.6095274834031e3691077dcdffae0724.924350b2da.wbe@email.secureserver.net> References: <20070307125408.6095274834031e3691077dcdffae0724.924350b2da.wbe@email.secureserver.net> Message-ID: On 3/7/07, Mike Scott wrote: > Very cool. I was wondering how I was going to handle this mess on my > old RH 7.3 box. SWEEEET! so I'm not the only one still pushing that release to its limits!! > > - Mike Scott > > > > -------- Original Message -------- > > Subject: [LUNI] DST changes :: a how to for Linux boxes > > From: "Arun K. Khan" > > Date: Wed, March 07, 2007 10:52 am > > To: luni > > > > A how to for ensuring that your Linux box is all set to handle the DST > > changes. > > > > http://www.linux-watch.com/news/NS6300294422.html > > > > -- arun khan > > > > -- > > Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni > > -- > Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni > From kgarner at kgarner.com Wed Mar 7 14:21:53 2007 From: kgarner at kgarner.com (Keith T. Garner) Date: Wed Mar 7 14:22:02 2007 Subject: [LUNI] DST changes :: a how to for Linux boxes In-Reply-To: <20070307125408.6095274834031e3691077dcdffae0724.924350b2da.wbe@email.secureserver.net> References: <20070307125408.6095274834031e3691077dcdffae0724.924350b2da.wbe@email.secureserver.net> Message-ID: <45EF1EE1.1020104@kgarner.com> On an FC2 box at work, I just took the FC6 rpm and rebuilt it. Probably not as sexy, but it got the job done. Other than the timezone info, the timezone stuff seems to have not changed in years. Keith Mike Scott wrote: > Very cool. I was wondering how I was going to handle this mess on my > old RH 7.3 box. > > - Mike Scott > > >> -------- Original Message -------- >> Subject: [LUNI] DST changes :: a how to for Linux boxes >> From: "Arun K. Khan" >> Date: Wed, March 07, 2007 10:52 am >> To: luni >> >> A how to for ensuring that your Linux box is all set to handle the DST >> changes. >> >> http://www.linux-watch.com/news/NS6300294422.html >> >> -- arun khan >> >> -- >> Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion >> http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni > -- Keith T. Garner kgarner@kgarner.com "Make no little plans; they have no magic to stir men's blood." - Daniel H. Burnham From scott at cashnetusa.com Wed Mar 7 14:52:56 2007 From: scott at cashnetusa.com (Scott Lockwood) Date: Wed Mar 7 14:53:08 2007 Subject: [LUNI] DST changes :: a how to for Linux boxes In-Reply-To: <45EF1EE1.1020104@kgarner.com> References: <20070307125408.6095274834031e3691077dcdffae0724.924350b2da.wbe@email.secureserver.net> <45EF1EE1.1020104@kgarner.com> Message-ID: <1173300776.4877.4.camel@scott-640m.checkgiant.com> On Wed, 2007-03-07 at 14:21 -0600, Keith T. Garner wrote: > On an FC2 box at work, I just took the FC6 rpm and rebuilt it. Probably not > as sexy, but it got the job done. Other than the timezone info, the > timezone stuff seems to have not changed in years. > > Keith > > Mike Scott wrote: > > Very cool. I was wondering how I was going to handle this mess on my > > old RH 7.3 box. > > > > - Mike Scott > > What's the fix for Ubuntu? From lists at redboy.cx Wed Mar 7 15:36:16 2007 From: lists at redboy.cx (sten) Date: Wed Mar 7 15:36:19 2007 Subject: [LUNI] DST changes :: a how to for Linux boxes In-Reply-To: <1173300776.4877.4.camel@scott-640m.checkgiant.com> References: <1173300776.4877.4.camel@scott-640m.checkgiant.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 07 Mar 2007 14:52:56 -0600, Scott Lockwood wrote: > What's the fix for Ubuntu? > Follow the instructions on the site to verify that your TZ data is correct, it should already be in Ubuntu. My Debian Sarge machines were already set. If not, then the rest of the instructions should apply to Ubuntu as well as RedHat. (or were you joking?) Sten From mmatula at ratula.net Wed Mar 7 16:30:29 2007 From: mmatula at ratula.net (Mark Matula) Date: Wed Mar 7 16:33:00 2007 Subject: [LUNI] DST changes :: a how to for Linux boxes In-Reply-To: References: <20070307125408.6095274834031e3691077dcdffae0724.924350b2da.wbe@email.secureserver.net> Message-ID: On Wed, 7 Mar 2007, Chris McKeever wrote: > On 3/7/07, Mike Scott wrote: >> Very cool. I was wondering how I was going to handle this mess on my >> old RH 7.3 box. > > SWEEEET! so I'm not the only one still pushing that release to its limits!! Nope, not at all ;) -- Mark Matula A rolling disk gathers no MOS. From mscott at pyewacket.org Wed Mar 7 16:46:30 2007 From: mscott at pyewacket.org (Mike Scott) Date: Wed Mar 7 17:46:34 2007 Subject: [LUNI] DST changes :: a how to for Linux boxes Message-ID: <20070307164630.6095274834031e3691077dcdffae0724.5dd7925655.wbe@email.secureserver.net> Well, I followed all the steps and it seemed to work. I verified that the files in /usr/share/zoneinfo all have today's date (were replaced). But when I type the final verification command, I get the old data: [root@prideth root]# zdump -v /etc/localtime | grep 2007 /etc/localtime Sun Apr 1 07:59:59 2007 UTC = Sun Apr 1 01:59:59 2007 CST isdst=0 gmtoff=-21600 /etc/localtime Sun Apr 1 08:00:00 2007 UTC = Sun Apr 1 03:00:00 2007 CDT isdst=1 gmtoff=-18000 /etc/localtime Sun Oct 28 06:59:59 2007 UTC = Sun Oct 28 01:59:59 2007 CDT isdst=1 gmtoff=-18000 /etc/localtime Sun Oct 28 07:00:00 2007 UTC = Sun Oct 28 01:00:00 2007 CST isdst=0 gmtoff=-21600 However, if I add my timezone, it appears to give more info: [root@prideth root]# zdump -v /etc/localtime CST6CDT | grep 2007 /etc/localtime Sun Apr 1 07:59:59 2007 UTC = Sun Apr 1 01:59:59 2007 CST isdst=0 gmtoff=-21600 /etc/localtime Sun Apr 1 08:00:00 2007 UTC = Sun Apr 1 03:00:00 2007 CDT isdst=1 gmtoff=-18000 /etc/localtime Sun Oct 28 06:59:59 2007 UTC = Sun Oct 28 01:59:59 2007 CDT isdst=1 gmtoff=-18000 /etc/localtime Sun Oct 28 07:00:00 2007 UTC = Sun Oct 28 01:00:00 2007 CST isdst=0 gmtoff=-21600 CST6CDT Sun Mar 11 07:59:59 2007 UTC = Sun Mar 11 01:59:59 2007 CST isdst=0 gmtoff=-21600 CST6CDT Sun Mar 11 08:00:00 2007 UTC = Sun Mar 11 03:00:00 2007 CDT isdst=1 gmtoff=-18000 CST6CDT Sun Nov 4 06:59:59 2007 UTC = Sun Nov 4 01:59:59 2007 CDT isdst=1 gmtoff=-18000 CST6CDT Sun Nov 4 07:00:00 2007 UTC = Sun Nov 4 01:00:00 2007 CST isdst=0 gmtoff=-21600 So I think it will be okay, but I'll know for sure on Sunday. (God Bless the USA!) Has anyone else tried this? I'm using RedHat 7.3. - Mike Scott > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: [LUNI] DST changes :: a how to for Linux boxes > From: "Arun K. Khan" > Date: Wed, March 07, 2007 10:52 am > To: luni > > A how to for ensuring that your Linux box is all set to handle the DST > changes. > > http://www.linux-watch.com/news/NS6300294422.html > > -- arun khan > > -- > Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni From trev at advanced-reality.com Thu Mar 8 07:41:14 2007 From: trev at advanced-reality.com (Trev Peterson) Date: Thu Mar 8 08:31:01 2007 Subject: [LUNI] DST changes :: a how to for Linux boxes In-Reply-To: <20070307164630.6095274834031e3691077dcdffae0724.5dd7925655.wbe@email.secureserver.net> References: <20070307164630.6095274834031e3691077dcdffae0724.5dd7925655.wbe@email.secureserver.net> Message-ID: <1173361274.6005.7.camel@aegir.advanced-reality.com> On my gentoo system my /etc/localtime is NOT a link. It looks like they copied /usr/share/zoneinfo/America/Chicago to /etc/localtime. If /etc/localtime is a link make sure it points to the correct zoneinfo file. If it is a file you probably want to copy over one of the new files you downloaded. Trev On Wed, 2007-03-07 at 16:46 -0700, Mike Scott wrote: > Well, I followed all the steps and it seemed to work. > I verified that the files in /usr/share/zoneinfo all have today's date > (were replaced). > But when I type the final verification command, I get the old data: > > [root@prideth root]# zdump -v /etc/localtime | grep 2007 > /etc/localtime Sun Apr 1 07:59:59 2007 UTC = Sun Apr 1 01:59:59 2007 > CST isdst=0 gmtoff=-21600 > /etc/localtime Sun Apr 1 08:00:00 2007 UTC = Sun Apr 1 03:00:00 2007 > CDT isdst=1 gmtoff=-18000 > /etc/localtime Sun Oct 28 06:59:59 2007 UTC = Sun Oct 28 01:59:59 2007 > CDT isdst=1 gmtoff=-18000 > /etc/localtime Sun Oct 28 07:00:00 2007 UTC = Sun Oct 28 01:00:00 2007 > CST isdst=0 gmtoff=-21600 > > However, if I add my timezone, it appears to give more info: > [root@prideth root]# zdump -v /etc/localtime CST6CDT | grep 2007 > /etc/localtime Sun Apr 1 07:59:59 2007 UTC = Sun Apr 1 01:59:59 2007 > CST isdst=0 gmtoff=-21600 > /etc/localtime Sun Apr 1 08:00:00 2007 UTC = Sun Apr 1 03:00:00 2007 > CDT isdst=1 gmtoff=-18000 > /etc/localtime Sun Oct 28 06:59:59 2007 UTC = Sun Oct 28 01:59:59 2007 > CDT isdst=1 gmtoff=-18000 > /etc/localtime Sun Oct 28 07:00:00 2007 UTC = Sun Oct 28 01:00:00 2007 > CST isdst=0 gmtoff=-21600 > CST6CDT Sun Mar 11 07:59:59 2007 UTC = Sun Mar 11 01:59:59 2007 > CST isdst=0 gmtoff=-21600 > CST6CDT Sun Mar 11 08:00:00 2007 UTC = Sun Mar 11 03:00:00 2007 > CDT isdst=1 gmtoff=-18000 > CST6CDT Sun Nov 4 06:59:59 2007 UTC = Sun Nov 4 01:59:59 2007 > CDT isdst=1 gmtoff=-18000 > CST6CDT Sun Nov 4 07:00:00 2007 UTC = Sun Nov 4 01:00:00 2007 > CST isdst=0 gmtoff=-21600 > > So I think it will be okay, but I'll know for sure on Sunday. > (God Bless the USA!) > Has anyone else tried this? I'm using RedHat 7.3. > > - Mike Scott > > > > -------- Original Message -------- > > Subject: [LUNI] DST changes :: a how to for Linux boxes > > From: "Arun K. Khan" > > Date: Wed, March 07, 2007 10:52 am > > To: luni > > > > A how to for ensuring that your Linux box is all set to handle the DST > > changes. > > > > http://www.linux-watch.com/news/NS6300294422.html > > > > -- arun khan > > > > -- > > Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni > -- Trev Peterson Advanced Reality Email: trev@advanced-reality.com Phone: +1 847 406 9018 From mscott at pyewacket.org Thu Mar 8 09:45:57 2007 From: mscott at pyewacket.org (Mike Scott) Date: Thu Mar 8 10:46:01 2007 Subject: [LUNI] DST changes :: a how to for Linux boxes Message-ID: <20070308094557.6095274834031e3691077dcdffae0724.aab13dbda2.wbe@email.secureserver.net> That was the case on my system as well. I did the following: [root@prideth root]# cd /etc [root@prideth etc]# mv localtime localtime.20070308 [root@prideth etc]# ln -s /usr/share/zoneinfo/America/Chicago localtime [root@prideth etc]# ls -l localtime lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 35 Mar 8 10:40 localtime -> /usr/share/zoneinfo/America/Chicago Now it appears to give the correct zdump info: [root@prideth etc]# zdump -v /etc/localtime | grep 2007 /etc/localtime Sun Mar 11 07:59:59 2007 UTC = Sun Mar 11 01:59:59 2007 CST isdst=0 gmtoff=-21600 /etc/localtime Sun Mar 11 08:00:00 2007 UTC = Sun Mar 11 03:00:00 2007 CDT isdst=1 gmtoff=-18000 /etc/localtime Sun Nov 4 06:59:59 2007 UTC = Sun Nov 4 01:59:59 2007 CDT isdst=1 gmtoff=-18000 /etc/localtime Sun Nov 4 07:00:00 2007 UTC = Sun Nov 4 01:00:00 2007 CST isdst=0 gmtoff=-21600 Thanks for the tip. Here's hoping we have an "uneventful" weekend! - Mike Scott > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: RE: [LUNI] DST changes :: a how to for Linux boxes > From: Trev Peterson > Date: Thu, March 08, 2007 7:41 am > To: Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > > > On my gentoo system my /etc/localtime is NOT a link. It looks like they > copied /usr/share/zoneinfo/America/Chicago to /etc/localtime. > If /etc/localtime is a link make sure it points to the correct zoneinfo > file. If it is a file you probably want to copy over one of the new > files you downloaded. > > Trev From fitz at red-bean.com Tue Mar 6 16:38:53 2007 From: fitz at red-bean.com (Brian W. Fitzpatrick) Date: Thu Mar 8 10:56:49 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Re: [Chicago] ChiPy March Meeting Thursday 3/8 RSVP encouraged In-Reply-To: <3096c19d0703061203y310f7dd4r433e6f261b8d7cd3@mail.gmail.com> References: <3096c19d0703061203y310f7dd4r433e6f261b8d7cd3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 3/6/07, Chris McAvoy wrote: > Location > -------- > > Google's Chicago office > 20 West Kinzie Street, 9th Floor > Chicago, IL 60610 > > Location description: > "18 story glass and steel building on the Northwest corner of Dearborn > and Kinzie." North*east* corner. The Northwest corner is, um, kind of not yet finished being built. -Fitz From scott at guppylog.com Wed Mar 7 16:41:32 2007 From: scott at guppylog.com (Scott Lockwood) Date: Thu Mar 8 10:56:58 2007 Subject: [LUNI] DST changes :: a how to for Linux boxes In-Reply-To: References: <1173300776.4877.4.camel@scott-640m.checkgiant.com> Message-ID: <1173307292.6332.0.camel@scott-640m.checkgiant.com> On Wed, 2007-03-07 at 15:36 -0600, sten wrote: > (or were you joking?) > > Sten > No no no , just been so freakishly busy that I've had no time to even look at it. So, if I've reciently done an apt-get update && apt-get upgrade, I should be fine? From dcoburn at cemcosystems.com Thu Mar 8 11:33:02 2007 From: dcoburn at cemcosystems.com (Darryl Coburn) Date: Thu Mar 8 11:50:41 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Chicago Area Linux Position Message-ID: <017701c761a7$d2a63890$4500a8c0@cemco.com> Permanent Linux position available at a progressive e-mail marketing Company located in Near North Chicago suburbs.They have a very interesting position utilizing Linux/Perl/DNS/Shell Scripting and supporting their Broadcast Email group. This group is facilitating millions of "permission based" emails a day. This is a confidential search but I would like to share some details over the phone. My name is Darryl Coburn and I am available at 630-573-5050 every day from 9am to 6pm. Forward your current resume and give me a call. Look forward to your call........... Darryl Coburn 630-573-5050 ext. 340 office 708-767-6367 cell Sr. Manager Cemco Systems www.cemcosystems.com From dcoburn at cemcosystems.com Thu Mar 8 13:44:49 2007 From: dcoburn at cemcosystems.com (Darryl Coburn) Date: Thu Mar 8 13:53:56 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Chicago Area Linux Position Message-ID: <001401c761ba$3beb5bc0$4500a8c0@cemco.com> Permanent Linux position available at a progressive e-mail marketing Company located in Near North Chicago suburbs.They have a very interesting position utilizing Linux/Perl/DNS/Shell Scripting and supporting their Broadcast Email group. This group is facilitating millions of "permission based" emails a day. This is a confidential search but I would like to share some details over the phone. My name is Darryl Coburn and I am available at 630-573-5050 every day from 9am to 6pm. Forward your current resume and give me a call. Look forward to your call........... Darryl Coburn 630-573-5050 ext. 340 office 708-767-6367 cell Sr. Manager Cemco Systems www.cemcosystems.com From dev at anabasis.net Thu Mar 8 16:24:05 2007 From: dev at anabasis.net (Lawrence Weeks) Date: Thu Mar 8 16:47:20 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Sysadmin position available Message-ID: <20070308222405.GA24204@dm2.deskmedia.com> Hi, We're looking to hire a part-time sysadmin. Here are some bullet points: Part-time mid-level sysadmin (up to 20 hours per week initially, possibly more at times) Potential for this position to transition to full-time this summer Able and willing to handle emergencies at odd hours, work late night/weekend hours when necessary to minimize customer impact, history of reliability Work on-site and remotely, flexible environment Aversion to GUI server administration tools Good understanding of *nix systems overall, in particular Linux; Mac OS X administrative experience (and knowledge of differences from "standard" *nix environments) would be very useful; experience with BSD variants and commercial Unices would be useful as well, but not mandatory Particular experience with: overall Red Hat Enterprise Linux administration and installation understanding of Linux LVM, hardware and software RAID postfix, SpamAssassin, Amavis and so forth understanding of the fundamentals of SMTP, DNS, other Internet protocols background in software development would be nice, ability to develop shell and Perl scripts We are currently located in Chicago in Wicker Park, *very* easy to get to by public transport. This position would be overall support of a number of Linux and Mac servers at colocation and remote sites. These servers are primarily doing email services using Zimbra. Prior Zimbra experience is not expected. Please forward your resume or a link to your resume to sysadmin_position@ondecktech.com, along with references, compensation expectations, time/scheduling limitations, and questions. Larry -- Lawrence Weeks lweeks@anabasis.net Anabasis Consulting Ltd From dbt at meat.net Thu Mar 8 16:57:48 2007 From: dbt at meat.net (David Terrell) Date: Thu Mar 8 16:57:51 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Chicago Area Linux Position In-Reply-To: <017701c761a7$d2a63890$4500a8c0@cemco.com> References: <017701c761a7$d2a63890$4500a8c0@cemco.com> Message-ID: <20070308225748.GE27830@sphinx.chicagopeoplez.org> On Thu, Mar 08, 2007 at 11:33:02AM -0600, Darryl Coburn wrote: > Look forward to your call........... Can I call you a spammer? You even posted to the list twice. -- David Terrell dbt@meat.net ((meatspace)) http://meat.net/ From scott at cashnetusa.com Thu Mar 8 17:03:11 2007 From: scott at cashnetusa.com (Scott Lockwood) Date: Thu Mar 8 17:03:20 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Chicago Area Linux Position In-Reply-To: <20070308225748.GE27830@sphinx.chicagopeoplez.org> References: <017701c761a7$d2a63890$4500a8c0@cemco.com> <20070308225748.GE27830@sphinx.chicagopeoplez.org> Message-ID: <1173394991.4886.15.camel@scott-640m.checkgiant.com> On Thu, 2007-03-08 at 16:57 -0600, David Terrell wrote: > On Thu, Mar 08, 2007 at 11:33:02AM -0600, Darryl Coburn wrote: > > Look forward to your call........... > Can I call you a spammer? You even posted to the list twice. That's a bit of an over reaction, don't you think? It may not even have been intentional. Now, if he posts it a THIRD time, get a rope. :-) From kgarner at kgarner.com Thu Mar 8 17:10:30 2007 From: kgarner at kgarner.com (Keith T. Garner) Date: Thu Mar 8 17:10:46 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Chicago Area Linux Position In-Reply-To: <1173394991.4886.15.camel@scott-640m.checkgiant.com> References: <017701c761a7$d2a63890$4500a8c0@cemco.com> <1173394991.4886.15.camel@scott-640m.checkgiant.com> Message-ID: <1173395437.17510220@di11.dngr.org> There was actually a third time that got caught be the moderation queue, but I discarded that. So technically, its rope time. :) Keith On Thu, 8 Mar 2007 5:07 pm, Scott Lockwood wrote: > On Thu, 2007-03-08 at 16:57 -0600, David Terrell wrote: >> On Thu, Mar 08, 2007 at 11:33:02AM -0600, Darryl Coburn wrote: >> > Look forward to your call........... >> Can I call you a spammer? You even posted to the list twice. > > That's a bit of an over reaction, don't you think? It may not even have > been intentional. Now, if he posts it a THIRD time, get a rope. :-) > > -- > Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni -- Keith T. Garner kgarner@kgarner.com From wiggles at xnet.com Thu Mar 8 21:26:53 2007 From: wiggles at xnet.com (Tim Wielgos) Date: Thu Mar 8 21:27:33 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Chicago Area Linux Position In-Reply-To: <1173395437.17510220@di11.dngr.org> References: <017701c761a7$d2a63890$4500a8c0@cemco.com> <1173394991.4886.15.camel@scott-640m.checkgiant.com> <1173395437.17510220@di11.dngr.org> Message-ID: <45F0D3FD.7000302@xnet.com> I just think it's funny that he's a spammer, advertising a job as a spammer... Keith T. Garner wrote: > There was actually a third time that got caught be the moderation > queue, but I discarded that. So technically, its rope time. :) > > Keith > > On Thu, 8 Mar 2007 5:07 pm, Scott Lockwood wrote: >> On Thu, 2007-03-08 at 16:57 -0600, David Terrell wrote: >>> On Thu, Mar 08, 2007 at 11:33:02AM -0600, Darryl Coburn wrote: >>> > Look forward to your call........... >>> Can I call you a spammer? You even posted to the list twice. >> >> That's a bit of an over reaction, don't you think? It may not even have >> been intentional. Now, if he posts it a THIRD time, get a rope. :-) >> >> -- >> Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion >> http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni > -- > Keith T. Garner kgarner@kgarner.com From m.mccune at comcast.net Fri Mar 9 01:13:16 2007 From: m.mccune at comcast.net (Mike McCune) Date: Fri Mar 9 01:13:26 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Chicago Area Linux Position In-Reply-To: <200703082300.l28N03uu030414@null.sevatech.com> References: <200703082300.l28N03uu030414@null.sevatech.com> Message-ID: <45F1090C.4000303@comcast.net> Sell your soul! Call now! Get lost, loser! On Thu, Mar 08, 2007 at 11:33:02AM -0600, Darryl Coburn wrote: > > Look forward to your call........... > Can I call you a spammer? You even posted to the list twice. -- David Terrell dbt@meat.net ((meatspace)) http://meat.net/ From sean-lynch at sean-lynch.com Fri Mar 9 06:08:48 2007 From: sean-lynch at sean-lynch.com (sean-lynch@sean-lynch.com) Date: Fri Mar 9 07:05:49 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Chicago Area Linux Position In-Reply-To: <45F0D3FD.7000302@xnet.com> References: <017701c761a7$d2a63890$4500a8c0@cemco.com> <1173394991.4886.15.camel@scott-640m.checkgiant.com> <1173395437.17510220@di11.dngr.org> <45F0D3FD.7000302@xnet.com> Message-ID: He could be using windows and it kept crashing after he hit the send button. He may not have known if he sent or not. Check his 'sent mail' file? Not if he's using windows! :) On Thu, 08 Mar 2007 21:26:53 -0600 Tim Wielgos wrote: > I just think it's funny that he's a spammer, advertising >a job as a spammer... > > > Keith T. Garner wrote: >> There was actually a third time that got caught be the >>moderation >> queue, but I discarded that. So technically, its rope >>time. :) >> >> Keith >> >> On Thu, 8 Mar 2007 5:07 pm, Scott Lockwood wrote: >>> On Thu, 2007-03-08 at 16:57 -0600, David Terrell wrote: >>>> On Thu, Mar 08, 2007 at 11:33:02AM -0600, Darryl Coburn >>>>wrote: >>>> > Look forward to your call........... >>>> Can I call you a spammer? You even posted to the list >>>>twice. >>> >>> That's a bit of an over reaction, don't you think? It >>>may not even have >>> been intentional. Now, if he posts it a THIRD time, get >>>a rope. :-) >>> >>> -- >>> Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion >>> http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni >> -- >> Keith T. Garner kgarner@kgarner.com > > -- > Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion >http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni From dbasener at aurora.edu Fri Mar 9 07:47:54 2007 From: dbasener at aurora.edu (Dave Basener) Date: Fri Mar 9 07:48:01 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Chicago Area Linux Position In-Reply-To: References: <017701c761a7$d2a63890$4500a8c0@cemco.com> <1173394991.4886.15.camel@scott-640m.checkgiant.com> <1173395437.17510220@di11.dngr.org> <45F0D3FD.7000302@xnet.com> Message-ID: <8bc03c6b0703090547w7f0185f4ge2606e5575f06a5c@mail.gmail.com> According to the headers he is using Outlook, so he's likely as innocent as the driven snow. More to be pitied than censured. On 3/9/07, sean-lynch@sean-lynch.com wrote: > > He could be using windows and it kept crashing after he > hit the send button. > He may not have known if he sent or not. > > Check his 'sent mail' file? Not if he's using windows! > > :) > > -- "... be the change you wish to see in the world." - Gandhi Dave Basener http://www.aurora.edu/~dbasener System Administrator dbasener@aurora.edu Aurora University 630.844.4889 From mscott at pyewacket.org Fri Mar 9 12:25:52 2007 From: mscott at pyewacket.org (Mike Scott) Date: Fri Mar 9 13:26:01 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Chicago Area Linux Position Message-ID: <20070309122552.6095274834031e3691077dcdffae0724.7a6b9513a9.wbe@email.secureserver.net> I believe he referred to the company as "opt-in mass mail distribution service" or some gobeldy-gook. Maybe that's the new code name for SPAM. Like Multi-Level-marketing is code for pyramid scam. - Mike Scott > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: [LUNI] Chicago Area Linux Position > From: David Terrell > Date: Thu, March 08, 2007 4:57 pm > To: Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > > > On Thu, Mar 08, 2007 at 11:33:02AM -0600, Darryl Coburn wrote: > > Look forward to your call........... > > Can I call you a spammer? You even posted to the list twice. > > -- > David Terrell > dbt@meat.net > ((meatspace)) http://meat.net/ > -- > Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni From scott at cashnetusa.com Fri Mar 9 14:00:42 2007 From: scott at cashnetusa.com (Scott Lockwood) Date: Fri Mar 9 14:00:59 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Chicago Area Linux Position In-Reply-To: <20070309122552.6095274834031e3691077dcdffae0724.7a6b9513a9.wbe@email.secureserver.net> References: <20070309122552.6095274834031e3691077dcdffae0724.7a6b9513a9.wbe@email.secureserver.net> Message-ID: <1173470442.4909.23.camel@scott-640m.checkgiant.com> MLM != Pyramid scam. However, I agree that "opt-in mass mail distribution service" most likely is. :-) On Fri, 2007-03-09 at 12:25 -0700, Mike Scott wrote: > I believe he referred to the company as "opt-in mass mail distribution > service" or some gobeldy-gook. > Maybe that's the new code name for SPAM. > Like Multi-Level-marketing is code for pyramid scam. > > - Mike Scott > > > > -------- Original Message -------- > > Subject: Re: [LUNI] Chicago Area Linux Position > > From: David Terrell > > Date: Thu, March 08, 2007 4:57 pm > > To: Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > > > > > > On Thu, Mar 08, 2007 at 11:33:02AM -0600, Darryl Coburn wrote: > > > Look forward to your call........... > > > > Can I call you a spammer? You even posted to the list twice. > > > > -- > > David Terrell > > dbt@meat.net > > ((meatspace)) http://meat.net/ > > -- > > Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni > -- W. Scott Lockwood III Systems Administrator Cashnetusa.com Land line: 312-568-4224 Cell: 847-800-4896 Help: x4357 From craig at codestorm.org Fri Mar 9 14:57:11 2007 From: craig at codestorm.org (Craig Van Tassle) Date: Fri Mar 9 14:52:44 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Chicago Area Linux Position In-Reply-To: <1173470442.4909.23.camel@scott-640m.checkgiant.com> References: <20070309122552.6095274834031e3691077dcdffae0724.7a6b9513a9.wbe@email.secureserver.net> <1173470442.4909.23.camel@scott-640m.checkgiant.com> Message-ID: <45F1CA27.5010204@codestorm.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The only kind of spam I want is double opt-in like with mailing lists. I'm sick of them taking advantage of my computer for there own gains. Scott Lockwood wrote: > MLM != Pyramid scam. However, I agree that "opt-in mass mail > distribution service" most likely is. :-) > > On Fri, 2007-03-09 at 12:25 -0700, Mike Scott wrote: >> I believe he referred to the company as "opt-in mass mail distribution >> service" or some gobeldy-gook. >> Maybe that's the new code name for SPAM. >> Like Multi-Level-marketing is code for pyramid scam. >> >> - Mike Scott >> >> >>> -------- Original Message -------- >>> Subject: Re: [LUNI] Chicago Area Linux Position >>> From: David Terrell >>> Date: Thu, March 08, 2007 4:57 pm >>> To: Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Mar 08, 2007 at 11:33:02AM -0600, Darryl Coburn wrote: >>>> Look forward to your call........... >>> Can I call you a spammer? You even posted to the list twice. >>> >>> -- >>> David Terrell >>> dbt@meat.net >>> ((meatspace)) http://meat.net/ >>> -- >>> Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion >>> http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFF8comAOTIJ89W4sIRAmhoAKCs6Ya0na5xoBHrTZeW3fbGZJQIsACglWHU O33NHY+WLokrPGAp+nttwWw= =gaBs -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From scott at cashnetusa.com Fri Mar 9 15:52:12 2007 From: scott at cashnetusa.com (Scott Lockwood) Date: Fri Mar 9 15:52:25 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Chicago Area Linux Position In-Reply-To: <45F1CA27.5010204@codestorm.org> References: <20070309122552.6095274834031e3691077dcdffae0724.7a6b9513a9.wbe@email.secureserver.net> <1173470442.4909.23.camel@scott-640m.checkgiant.com> <45F1CA27.5010204@codestorm.org> Message-ID: <1173477132.4909.32.camel@scott-640m.checkgiant.com> On Fri, 2007-03-09 at 14:57 -0600, Craig Van Tassle wrote: > The only kind of spam I want is double opt-in like with mailing lists. > I'm sick > of them taking advantage of my computer for there own gains. Exactly. I think that should be codified into law. I favor boiling spammers in hot oil as a punishment, on first offense. From craig at codestorm.org Fri Mar 9 16:20:06 2007 From: craig at codestorm.org (Craig Van Tassle) Date: Fri Mar 9 16:15:38 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Chicago Area Linux Position In-Reply-To: <1173477132.4909.32.camel@scott-640m.checkgiant.com> References: <20070309122552.6095274834031e3691077dcdffae0724.7a6b9513a9.wbe@email.secureserver.net> <1173470442.4909.23.camel@scott-640m.checkgiant.com> <45F1CA27.5010204@codestorm.org> <1173477132.4909.32.camel@scott-640m.checkgiant.com> Message-ID: <45F1DD96.1020403@codestorm.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 NA.. That would not give them a chance to change there ways. I think cutting off there fingers, eyes, feet at the ankles, toungue and lips. That way when everone sees them they will be able to say "Dear god! What is that spammer doing here!" :D Scott Lockwood wrote: > On Fri, 2007-03-09 at 14:57 -0600, Craig Van Tassle wrote: >> The only kind of spam I want is double opt-in like with mailing lists. >> I'm sick >> of them taking advantage of my computer for there own gains. > > Exactly. I think that should be codified into law. I favor boiling > spammers in hot oil as a punishment, on first offense. > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFF8d2WAOTIJ89W4sIRAqdvAJ4+N28QjeOByKPbRYuD//ZRhoIcswCeKLoc ILDQfxumSojJu5eyy3BXt5g= =1wBg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From mscott at pyewacket.org Fri Mar 9 15:22:16 2007 From: mscott at pyewacket.org (Mike Scott) Date: Fri Mar 9 16:22:23 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Chicago Area Linux Position Message-ID: <20070309152216.6095274834031e3691077dcdffae0724.c3dfddc19a.wbe@email.secureserver.net> Please, let's not have any more government "help" on technical issues. Politicians are mostly clueless when it comes to any technology. As evidenced by their recent brain-dead change to the US Daylight Savings start/end dates. I'm having MAJOR Y2K flashbacks!!! - Mike Scott > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: [LUNI] Chicago Area Linux Position > From: Scott Lockwood > Date: Fri, March 09, 2007 3:52 pm > To: Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > > > On Fri, 2007-03-09 at 14:57 -0600, Craig Van Tassle wrote: > > The only kind of spam I want is double opt-in like with mailing lists. > > I'm sick > > of them taking advantage of my computer for there own gains. > > Exactly. I think that should be codified into law. I favor boiling > spammers in hot oil as a punishment, on first offense. > > > -- > Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni From ccf3 at mindspring.com Fri Mar 9 20:51:40 2007 From: ccf3 at mindspring.com (Clyde Forrester) Date: Fri Mar 9 20:51:48 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Chicago Area Linux Position References: <20070309152216.6095274834031e3691077dcdffae0724.c3dfddc19a.wbe@email.secureserver.net> Message-ID: <45F21D3C.7030808@mindspring.com> Mike Scott wrote: >Please, let's not have any more government "help" on technical issues. >Politicians are mostly clueless when it comes to any technology. >As evidenced by their recent brain-dead change to the US Daylight >Savings start/end dates. >I'm having MAJOR Y2K flashbacks!!! > >- Mike Scott > Flashbacks? How could that be? It's nowhere near 2048 yet. Oh,... that Y2K. With all the zeros. Never mind. As for spam: I remember reading something on /. about an IT data center in Las Vegas in a bad neighborhood. Some of the employees carried side-arms, especially during the overnight shifts. When someone would ask them why the gun, their stock answer was "I DON'T LIKE SPAM!" Clyde From m.mccune at comcast.net Sat Mar 10 10:41:10 2007 From: m.mccune at comcast.net (Mike McCune) Date: Sat Mar 10 10:42:27 2007 Subject: [LUNI] ANN: I'm giving a talk on computer recycling tonight. Message-ID: <45F2DFA6.50400@comcast.net> I thought this might be of interest to some of you. I'm giving a talk on computer recycling at the Lincoln Restaurant, *4008 N. Lincoln Ave., at 8pm tonight. I'll be sure to give a plug for Free Geek. http://www.collegeofcomplexes.org/March.html * -- Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Announcements Mailing List http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni-announce From sfaci at cs.uic.edu Sat Mar 10 14:41:13 2007 From: sfaci at cs.uic.edu (Samir Faci) Date: Sat Mar 10 14:41:21 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Fwd: [Ubuntu Chicago] CoDLUG Linux Fest In-Reply-To: <1e6142750703101239wffd15cbub5bf038d78998883@mail.gmail.com> References: <200703100941.28451.nixternal@ubuntu.com> <1e6142750703101239wffd15cbub5bf038d78998883@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <9db93b0e0703101241m226a7438g77b19dcd815ac0e7@mail.gmail.com> For anyone interested. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Rich Johnson Date: Mar 10, 2007 9:41 AM Subject: [Ubuntu Chicago] CoDLUG Linux Fest To: CoD LUG Cc: ChicagoTeam Howdy Linux Geeks! It is that time of the month, well 1 week away, for our monthly gathering. Who: College of DuPage Linux Users' Group (open to everyone) What: Linux Fest (we call it this, but everyone shows up and talks, hacks, breathes and bleeds Linux and free software) When: Sunday, March 18th, 2007 Where: College of DuPage (Room SRC 1544) 425 Fawell Blvd. Glen Ellyn, IL 60137 Map page -> http://www.cod.edu/Maps_Loc.htm Local map -> http://www.cod.edu/Maps/Map_Loc.htm Floor map-> http://www.cod.edu/Maps/SRC_12.gif Why: Why not? Do you have anything better to do than Linux? I didn't think so. The group likes to meet up monthly for the time being, and if we see an increase in interest, then we may do bi-monthly meetings. So come out, talk Linux, free software, hacking, advocating, listen and learn, get support, whatever :) How: Easy, get in your car on Sunday morning, drive to Glen Ellyn using the maps above, park, turn off your car, and walk into the SRC building. If you see the glass room (art gallery), we are right across the hall. Come in, sit down, stand up, whatever. NOTE: wear your seatbelt and do the speed limit! Environmental nuts - take the train, walk, or ride a bike if you don't want to put the fumes in the atmosphere :) -- Rich Johnson nixternal@ubuntu.com GPG Key: 0x2E2C0124 -- Ubuntu-us-chicago mailing list Ubuntu-us-chicago@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-chicago -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 188 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://luni.org/pipermail/luni/attachments/20070310/9672e997/attachment.bin From luni at pyewacket.org Sun Mar 11 12:47:53 2007 From: luni at pyewacket.org (Mike Scott) Date: Sun Mar 11 13:48:06 2007 Subject: [LUNI] SuSE free on my home PC Message-ID: <20070311124753.6095274834031e3691077dcdffae0724.92677f13b4.wbe@email.secureserver.net> I installed Kubuntu 6.10 on my home system and it seems to be working great. A few necessities were missing (like FireFox and curl), but apt-get took care of that. I picked up a 360G SATA drive (about $80 from NewEgg) and replaced the 180G EIDE that was in there (mobo has EIDE & SATA-1). For the old EIDE drive, I picked up an external USB2-EIDE external drive case from Micro Center for $25 (actually I bought 2 so I also have an external USB2 DVD-ROM drive). I can now transfer my home directories to the new system and then reformat the drive for general use. The external DVD will be great for installing on my server, for which I plan to use either MEPIS or Ubuntu-Server LTS. Any recommendations as to what filesystem to use on the external drive? EXT3 would be my best bet, but won't work if I want to back up stuff on my Windoze laptop. NTFS has issues writing in Linux and FAT is just plain dumb. Not to mention that I would probably have to break it into 4G partitions as that's the biggest FAT can handle IIRC. The cases are pretty good, though they were designed for gamers who take "X" and go to rave clubs. They are clear plexiglass with blue and purple LEDs (blue for power, purple for drive activity), but aside from that they seem to work great. I also picked up a video card from Tiger Direct for $55 and will see how Kubuntu likes it. I currently have my LCD connected to the VGA out on my system and wanted to use the DVI connector for a clearer display. This is an older mobo and only has an AGP-4X/8X connector, so if Linux supports NVidia (I believe it does), it should be good to go. - Mike Scott From skie at dragonsvalley.com Sun Mar 11 15:01:25 2007 From: skie at dragonsvalley.com (Branko Kotur) Date: Sun Mar 11 14:05:27 2007 Subject: [LUNI] SuSE free on my home PC In-Reply-To: <20070311124753.6095274834031e3691077dcdffae0724.92677f13b4.wbe@email.secureserver.net> References: <20070311124753.6095274834031e3691077dcdffae0724.92677f13b4.wbe@email.secureserver.net> Message-ID: <200703111501.25520.skie@dragonsvalley.com> On Sunday 11 March 2007 1:47 pm, Mike Scott wrote: > Any recommendations as to what filesystem to use on the external drive? > EXT3 would be my best bet, but won't work if I want to back up stuff on > my Windoze laptop. > NTFS has issues writing in Linux and FAT is just plain dumb. Not to > mention that I would probably have to break it into 4G partitions as > that's the biggest FAT can handle IIRC. There's a project that you can install on Windows that will allow it to access EXT3 partitions without much problem. However, I can't remember the name of it at the moment. > I also picked up a video card from Tiger Direct for $55 and will see how > Kubuntu likes it. I currently have my LCD connected to the VGA out on > my system and wanted to use the DVI connector for a clearer display. > This is an older mobo and only has an AGP-4X/8X connector, so if Linux > supports NVidia (I believe it does), it should be good to go. I've always prefered nVidia over ATI for Linux. I have much better luck with nVidia then ATI when I want to use 3D (games). For basic 2D, either one will work without much issues. From mark at msbrepairs.com Sun Mar 11 15:13:01 2007 From: mark at msbrepairs.com (Mark Stuart Burge) Date: Sun Mar 11 14:12:07 2007 Subject: [LUNI] SuSE free on my home PC In-Reply-To: <20070311124753.6095274834031e3691077dcdffae0724.92677f13b4.wbe@email.secureserver.net> References: <20070311124753.6095274834031e3691077dcdffae0724.92677f13b4.wbe@email.secureserver.net> Message-ID: <45F470DD.2070906@msbrepairs.com> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://luni.org/pipermail/luni/attachments/20070311/82a0ce2e/attachment.htm From luni at pyewacket.org Sun Mar 11 13:45:44 2007 From: luni at pyewacket.org (Mike Scott) Date: Sun Mar 11 14:45:49 2007 Subject: [LUNI] SuSE free on my home PC Message-ID: <20070311134543.6095274834031e3691077dcdffae0724.2aad4d4202.wbe@email.secureserver.net> > I picked up a 360G SATA drive (about $80 from NewEgg) Correction on the price of the 360G drive. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16822136003 I looked back and it was actually $89.99 not $80 as I stated in my original email. Still, with shipping less that $100 is not too shabby. - Mike Scott From mark at msbrepairs.com Sun Mar 11 15:47:25 2007 From: mark at msbrepairs.com (Mark Stuart Burge) Date: Sun Mar 11 14:46:40 2007 Subject: [LUNI] SuSE free on my home PC In-Reply-To: <200703111501.25520.skie@dragonsvalley.com> References: <20070311124753.6095274834031e3691077dcdffae0724.92677f13b4.wbe@email.secureserver.net> <200703111501.25520.skie@dragonsvalley.com> Message-ID: <45F478ED.1060708@msbrepairs.com> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://luni.org/pipermail/luni/attachments/20070311/6191535e/attachment.htm From sushitech at voxlox.com Sun Mar 11 16:07:44 2007 From: sushitech at voxlox.com (D. Wade) Date: Sun Mar 11 16:05:01 2007 Subject: [LUNI] SuSE free on my home PC In-Reply-To: <200703111501.25520.skie@dragonsvalley.com> References: <20070311124753.6095274834031e3691077dcdffae0724.92677f13b4.wbe@email.secureserver.net> <200703111501.25520.skie@dragonsvalley.com> Message-ID: <45F46FA0.9050901@voxlox.com> Branko Kotur wrote: > There's a project that you can install on Windows that will allow it to access > EXT3 partitions without much problem. However, I can't remember the name of > it at the moment. IFS Drives at http://www.fs-driver.org. I love this thing. Reliable, small, unobtrusive, integrated into Windoze control panel. The (removable) disks on my backup fileserver are formatted with a tiny FAT partition containing just the installs for the IFS driver, and a huge ext2/ext3 partition containing all the data. When I had to make an emergency run to a different state for a week but needed access to all the photos I have stored on the server, I just yanked one of the drives, stuck a USB cable on it, and took it with me. Was able to use the IFS driver to browse/read/write to the disk, and then slot the disk back into the server when I got back home. (Synching changes was another story :) --Derek From luni at pyewacket.org Mon Mar 12 11:23:49 2007 From: luni at pyewacket.org (Mike Scott) Date: Mon Mar 12 12:23:55 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Oh the "good old days" Message-ID: <20070312112349.6095274834031e3691077dcdffae0724.58f71526a1.wbe@email.secureserver.net> I was going through some old papers yesterday and came across an invoice for a CD-ROM drive that I bought back in April '93. This was a 2x (or maybe a 4x, I don't recall) internal drive I bought from DC Drives (DC stood for Dirt Cheap, a relative term in this case) in Houston. Toshiba T3401I16 200mS drive with SCSI controller card $619.00 (no such thing as IDE CD's then) In all fairness, the UltraStore ULTRA14F was $195.00 by itself Keep in mind this is a reader only. IIRC, I bought an HP writer a couple of years later for about $1000. - Mike Scott From scott at cashnetusa.com Mon Mar 12 13:37:15 2007 From: scott at cashnetusa.com (Scott Lockwood) Date: Mon Mar 12 12:37:27 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Oh the "good old days" In-Reply-To: <20070312112349.6095274834031e3691077dcdffae0724.58f71526a1.wbe@email.secureserver.net> References: <20070312112349.6095274834031e3691077dcdffae0724.58f71526a1.wbe@email.secureserver.net> Message-ID: <1173724635.5315.24.camel@scott-640m.checkgiant.com> On Mon, 2007-03-12 at 11:23 -0700, Mike Scott wrote: > I was going through some old papers yesterday and came across an invoice > for a CD-ROM drive that I bought back in April '93. This was a 2x (or > maybe a 4x, I don't recall) internal drive I bought from DC Drives (DC > stood for Dirt Cheap, a relative term in this case) in Houston. > > Toshiba T3401I16 200mS drive with SCSI controller card $619.00 > (no such thing as IDE CD's then) > > In all fairness, the UltraStore ULTRA14F was $195.00 by itself > > Keep in mind this is a reader only. IIRC, I bought an HP writer a > couple of years later for about $1000. > > - Mike Scott > Niiiice! I still have the conner 175 Meg drive I bought from Conner's sysop program in '93 - for $275. It doesn't work anymore, but it makes an excellent paperweight. -- W. Scott Lockwood III Systems Administrator Cashnetusa.com Land line: 312-568-4224 Cell: 847-800-4896 Help: x4357 From jeff at gerhardt.org Sun Mar 11 20:13:30 2007 From: jeff at gerhardt.org (jeff@gerhardt.org) Date: Mon Mar 12 12:58:49 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Support for Team Challenger In-Reply-To: <45F2DFA6.50400@comcast.net> References: <45F2DFA6.50400@comcast.net> Message-ID: <20070312021330.193FE47EFD@k2.ibssnet.com> totally off topic except I know several of you are interested and have helped out a bit with supporting the team. But my FRC (US First) robotics team "Team Challenger" came out with a very high score in the Milwaukee regional and won the Xerox Engineering award for our drive sub system. The kids on the team did an amazing job. We are competing in Chicago at the Midwest regional this week to try to qualify for Nationals and would like it if people could spread the word to come oout and support Team Challenger. The event runs Thursday through Saturday. Saturday will be the finals from 1:00 to 5:00pm. Yours, jeff Gerhardt From ohrock at gmail.com Wed Mar 14 07:58:08 2007 From: ohrock at gmail.com (Roberto Serrano) Date: Wed Mar 14 06:58:20 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Just in case you have not seen it: let dell know what you think about pre-installed linux. Message-ID: <3d76512f0703140558r75644d65ga700e904df0e522c@mail.gmail.com> http://www.dell.com/linuxsurvey Thank you! Roberto From mscott at pyewacket.org Wed Mar 14 07:45:20 2007 From: mscott at pyewacket.org (Mike Scott) Date: Wed Mar 14 08:45:23 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Just in case you have not seen it: let dell know what you think about pre-installed linux. Message-ID: <20070314074520.6095274834031e3691077dcdffae0724.0f15bdc7e4.wbe@email.secureserver.net> I'm glad to see Dell is considering other distros. I read they were going to use Novell/SuSE. I would not even consider that option as I am in the process of de-installing SuSE from all of my systems since they got in bed with Microsoft. - Mike Scott > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: [LUNI] Just in case you have not seen it: let dell know what > you think about pre-installed linux. > From: "Roberto Serrano" > Date: Wed, March 14, 2007 7:58 am > To: "UIC Linux User Group" , > > http://www.dell.com/linuxsurvey > > Thank you! > > Roberto > -- > Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni From sfaci at cs.uic.edu Wed Mar 14 09:53:46 2007 From: sfaci at cs.uic.edu (Samir Faci) Date: Wed Mar 14 08:53:49 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Just in case you have not seen it: let dell know what you think about pre-installed linux. In-Reply-To: <20070314074520.6095274834031e3691077dcdffae0724.0f15bdc7e4.wbe@email.secureserver.net> References: <20070314074520.6095274834031e3691077dcdffae0724.0f15bdc7e4.wbe@email.secureserver.net> Message-ID: <9db93b0e0703140753p5bba813dob5b9538ff3e86fb2@mail.gmail.com> lol. I actually voted for opensuse, but either ways, as long as they use something Linuxy, I'd be happy to buy a dell from them. Dude, you got a tux! On 3/14/07, Mike Scott wrote: > > I'm glad to see Dell is considering other distros. I read they were > going to use Novell/SuSE. > I would not even consider that option as I am in the process of > de-installing SuSE from all of my systems since they got in bed with > Microsoft. > > - Mike Scott > > > > -------- Original Message -------- > > Subject: [LUNI] Just in case you have not seen it: let dell know what > > you think about pre-installed linux. > > From: "Roberto Serrano" > > Date: Wed, March 14, 2007 7:58 am > > To: "UIC Linux User Group" , > > > > http://www.dell.com/linuxsurvey > > > > Thank you! > > > > Roberto > > -- > > Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni > > -- > Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni > From scott at cashnetusa.com Wed Mar 14 11:27:14 2007 From: scott at cashnetusa.com (Scott Lockwood) Date: Wed Mar 14 10:27:31 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Just in case you have not seen it: let dell know what you think about pre-installed linux. In-Reply-To: <9db93b0e0703140753p5bba813dob5b9538ff3e86fb2@mail.gmail.com> References: <20070314074520.6095274834031e3691077dcdffae0724.0f15bdc7e4.wbe@email.secureserver.net> <9db93b0e0703140753p5bba813dob5b9538ff3e86fb2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1173889634.4928.7.camel@scott-640m.checkgiant.com> On Wed, 2007-03-14 at 09:53 -0500, Samir Faci wrote: > lol. I actually voted for opensuse, but either ways, as long as they > use something Linuxy, I'd be happy to buy a dell from them. I'd be absolutely ecstatic if I could just get a bare machine from them without paying the Microsoft tax. -- W. Scott Lockwood III Systems Administrator Cashnetusa.com Land line: 312-568-4224 Cell: 847-800-4896 Help: x4357 From sfaci at cs.uic.edu Wed Mar 14 11:39:56 2007 From: sfaci at cs.uic.edu (Samir Faci) Date: Wed Mar 14 10:39:59 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Just in case you have not seen it: let dell know what you think about pre-installed linux. In-Reply-To: <1173889634.4928.7.camel@scott-640m.checkgiant.com> References: <20070314074520.6095274834031e3691077dcdffae0724.0f15bdc7e4.wbe@email.secureserver.net> <9db93b0e0703140753p5bba813dob5b9538ff3e86fb2@mail.gmail.com> <1173889634.4928.7.camel@scott-640m.checkgiant.com> Message-ID: <9db93b0e0703140939o15f408fbq248d48cfe7ff9a66@mail.gmail.com> Yeah, ditto. Though by comparison.. the msft tax isn't nearly as much as you'd think. HP is/used to sell pc with Mandrake on them (Mandriva...whatever... that distro that no one uses) and the price difference was a bit under $50. Though now I see there are quiet a few ibm machines with Linux as well. You just have to try harder to find them then your standard win box. -- Samir On 3/14/07, Scott Lockwood wrote: > > On Wed, 2007-03-14 at 09:53 -0500, Samir Faci wrote: > > lol. I actually voted for opensuse, but either ways, as long as they > > use something Linuxy, I'd be happy to buy a dell from them. > > I'd be absolutely ecstatic if I could just get a bare machine from them > without paying the Microsoft tax. > > -- > W. Scott Lockwood III > Systems Administrator > Cashnetusa.com > Land line: 312-568-4224 > Cell: 847-800-4896 > Help: x4357 > > -- > Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni > From luni at pyewacket.org Wed Mar 14 10:17:50 2007 From: luni at pyewacket.org (Mike Scott) Date: Wed Mar 14 11:17:53 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Just in case you have not seen it: let dell know what you think about pre-installed linux. Message-ID: <20070314101750.6095274834031e3691077dcdffae0724.b6dcc9c799.wbe@email.secureserver.net> http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/100 - Mike Scott > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: [LUNI] Just in case you have not seen it: let dell know > what you think about pre-installed linux. > From: Scott Lockwood > Date: Wed, March 14, 2007 11:27 am > To: Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > > > On Wed, 2007-03-14 at 09:53 -0500, Samir Faci wrote: > > lol. I actually voted for opensuse, but either ways, as long as they > > use something Linuxy, I'd be happy to buy a dell from them. > > I'd be absolutely ecstatic if I could just get a bare machine from them > without paying the Microsoft tax. > > -- > W. Scott Lockwood III > Systems Administrator > Cashnetusa.com > Land line: 312-568-4224 > Cell: 847-800-4896 > Help: x4357 > > -- > Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni From scott at cashnetusa.com Wed Mar 14 13:29:07 2007 From: scott at cashnetusa.com (Scott Lockwood) Date: Wed Mar 14 12:29:19 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Just in case you have not seen it: let dell know what you think about pre-installed linux. In-Reply-To: <20070314101750.6095274834031e3691077dcdffae0724.b6dcc9c799.wbe@email.secureserver.net> References: <20070314101750.6095274834031e3691077dcdffae0724.b6dcc9c799.wbe@email.secureserver.net> Message-ID: <1173896947.4921.0.camel@scott-640m.checkgiant.com> Yep. And, I did fill out a response to the survey, and posted on the blog to encourage them to sell us bare machines with supported hardware. On Wed, 2007-03-14 at 10:17 -0700, Mike Scott wrote: > http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/100 > > - Mike Scott > From gug at fnal.gov Wed Mar 14 12:44:24 2007 From: gug at fnal.gov (Gerald Guglielmo) Date: Wed Mar 14 12:45:32 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Just in case you have not seen it: let dell know what you think about pre-installed linux. In-Reply-To: <9db93b0e0703140939o15f408fbq248d48cfe7ff9a66@mail.gmail.com> References: <20070314074520.6095274834031e3691077dcdffae0724.0f15bdc7e4.wbe@email.secureserver.net> <9db93b0e0703140753p5bba813dob5b9538ff3e86fb2@mail.gmail.com> <1173889634.4928.7.camel@scott-640m.checkgiant.com> <9db93b0e0703140939o15f408fbq248d48cfe7ff9a66@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45F83478.5080203@fnal.gov> Hi, $50 dollars is not large for most people so one could argue it isn't worth the trouble. However MS gets the benefit of each and every one of these sales, so if you sell 1 million it becomes worth the trouble for them. Samir Faci wrote: > Yeah, ditto. > > Though by comparison.. the msft tax isn't nearly as much as you'd > think. HP > is/used to sell pc with Mandrake on them (Mandriva...whatever... that > distro > that no one uses) and the price difference was a bit under $50. > > Though now I see there are quiet a few ibm machines with Linux as well. > You > just have to try harder to find them then your standard win box. > -- -Jerry-> gug@fnal.gov Pepe's Theory of everything: "Under the right circumstances, things happen." From brian at planetshwoop.com Mon Mar 19 22:22:17 2007 From: brian at planetshwoop.com (Brian Sobolak) Date: Mon Mar 19 21:29:22 2007 Subject: [LUNI] ANN: This Thursday is a UFO Thursday Message-ID: <45FF5369.1070808@planetshwoop.com> This Thursday UFO Chicago will meet at 8pm at 4229 W Irving Park Rd. in Chicago to discuss our usual topics: Linux, programming, anti-DRM, and all things open source. There's dinner and lots of fun discussion. For directions and more info, see our website at: http://ufo.chicago.il.us/ Hope to see you there! brian ,. ,. {^ \-"-/ ^} " """ " { _ } ==_ .:Y:. _== ."" `--^--' "". (,~-~."" "" ,~-~.) ------( )----( )----- ^-'-'-^ ^-'-'-^ _____________________________ |"""" /~.^.~\ """"| hjw ,i-i-i(""( i-i-i. `97 (o o o ))"")( o o o) \(_) /(""( \ (_)/ `--' \""\ `--' )"") (""/ `" -- Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Announcements Mailing List http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni-announce From jquigley at jquigley.com Wed Mar 21 12:52:06 2007 From: jquigley at jquigley.com (John Quigley) Date: Wed Mar 21 11:52:22 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Chicago Linux: meeting 2007-03-24 Message-ID: <460170C6.2040304@jquigley.com> Hey Everyone: Chicago Linux is meeting this coming Saturday, March 24, 2007, at 3p, at our standard location downtown: http://tinyurl.com/222j69 We have special guests coming from Europe representing the Open Source company eZ: http://ez.no/ In addition, Cleversafe will be performing a demonstration on how to use their Open Source system to setup a dispersed storage grid. Both companies will give a retrospective on Open Source companies competing in the commercial space. Our presentation agenda in full: 1. Meet eZ: Open Source in the Commercial Space 2. Cleversafe demo: Setting up a dispersed storage grid 3. Dynamic Mail Relaying ToGo (Jordan Wilberding) 4. Writing Embedded Lisp Systems (John Quigley) As always, we'll be heading out for food and drinks afterwards. We invite everyone to come along! I'd also like to notify you that our mailing lists have returned. Anyone interested in our activities should subscribe to the low-volume ANNOUNCE list: https://www.chicagolug.org/lists/listinfo/chicagolinux-announce We also have a more high-volume DISCUSS list: https://www.chicagolug.org/lists/listinfo/chicagolinux-discuss Happy Hacking! John Quigley From me at heyjay.com Thu Mar 22 22:04:23 2007 From: me at heyjay.com (Jay Strauss) Date: Thu Mar 22 21:04:36 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Wiki with passwords Message-ID: Hi, I'd like to have an internal wiki for my company. Most of the data will be slightly sensitive. Can anyone suggest a wiki hosting company, that provides a wiki where I (as the administrator) could create and remove users, give read & write privs indepentantly to different users, and attach files to certain pages for download? Thanks Jay From knura at yahoo.com Fri Mar 23 14:37:48 2007 From: knura at yahoo.com (Arun K. Khan) Date: Fri Mar 23 03:09:01 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Sudoko publisher follows open source model to develop games Message-ID: <1174640868.4952.61.camel@genesis.intra.silverarc.biz> Quote from the article below: "Sudoku?s popularity in the United States caught Mr. Kaji by such surprise that he did not try to get the trademark there until it was too late. As a result, Nikoli receives no royalties from sudoku-related sales overseas by other publishers. In hindsight, though, he now thinks that oversight was a brilliant mistake. The fact that no one controlled sudoku?s intellectual property rights let the game?s popularity grow unfettered, Mr. Kaji says. Nikoli does not plan to trademark other new games, either, in hopes this will also help them take off. http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/21/business/worldbusiness/21sudoku.html?_r=1&th&emc=th&oref=slogin -- arun khan From sean-lynch at sean-lynch.com Fri Mar 23 07:44:30 2007 From: sean-lynch at sean-lynch.com (sean-lynch@sean-lynch.com) Date: Fri Mar 23 08:41:10 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Sudoko publisher follows open source model to develop games In-Reply-To: <1174640868.4952.61.camel@genesis.intra.silverarc.biz> References: <1174640868.4952.61.camel@genesis.intra.silverarc.biz> Message-ID: Textdrive has cheap shared hosting plans you can install a wiki of your choice on. http://textdrive.com/ They support open source Since its an intranet, you could probably install your own server and host the wiki yourself. That is unless your work force is distributed and you don't want to build in the large network support. There are also alternatives. The Chicago company 37 signals offers sites that allow business collabaration. They have some freebies that might give you a way to collaborate with something other than a wiki. http://www.37signals.com/ The 37 signals stuff is not a wiki, but they strongly support open source. They are the company that developed Ruby on Rails and released it under the GPL. So its worth a look On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 14:37:48 +0530 "Arun K. Khan" wrote: > > > Quote from the article below: > > "Sudoku?s popularity in the United States caught Mr. >Kaji by such > surprise that he did not try to get the trademark there >until it was too > late. As a result, Nikoli receives no royalties from >sudoku-related > sales overseas by other publishers. > > In hindsight, though, he now thinks that oversight was a >brilliant > mistake. The fact that no one controlled sudoku?s >intellectual property > rights let the game?s popularity grow unfettered, Mr. >Kaji says. Nikoli > does not plan to trademark other new games, either, in >hopes this will > also help them take off. > > > http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/21/business/worldbusiness/21sudoku.html?_r=1&th&emc=th&oref=slogin > > -- arun khan > > -- > Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni From sean-lynch at sean-lynch.com Fri Mar 23 07:45:36 2007 From: sean-lynch at sean-lynch.com (sean-lynch@sean-lynch.com) Date: Fri Mar 23 08:42:07 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Wiki with passwords In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 22:04:23 -0500 "Jay Strauss" wrote: > Hi, > > I'd like to have an internal wiki for my company. Most >of the data > will be slightly sensitive. > > Can anyone suggest a wiki hosting company, that provides >a wiki where > I (as the administrator) could create and remove users, >give read & > write privs indepentantly to different users, and attach >files to > certain pages for download? > > Thanks > Jay > -- > Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion >http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni Textdrive has cheap shared hosting plans you can install a wiki of your choice on. http://textdrive.com/ They support open source Since its an intranet, you could probably install your own server and host the wiki yourself. That is unless your work force is distributed and you don't want to build in the large network support. There are also alternatives. The Chicago company 37 signals offers sites that allow business collabaration. They have some freebies that might give you a way to collaborate with something other than a wiki. http://www.37signals.com/ The 37 signals stuff is not a wiki, but they strongly support open source. They are the company that developed Ruby on Rails and released it under the GPL. So its worth a look Sean From sean-lynch at sean-lynch.com Fri Mar 23 08:03:18 2007 From: sean-lynch at sean-lynch.com (sean-lynch@sean-lynch.com) Date: Fri Mar 23 08:59:53 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Sudoko publisher follows open source model to develop games In-Reply-To: References: <1174640868.4952.61.camel@genesis.intra.silverarc.biz> Message-ID: Please ignore. I replied to the wrong thread. On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 07:44:30 -0700 wrote: > Textdrive has cheap shared hosting plans you can install >a wiki of your choice on. > http://textdrive.com/ > They support open source > > Since its an intranet, you could probably install your >own server and host the wiki yourself. That is unless >your work force is distributed and you don't want to >build in the large network support. > > There are also alternatives. The Chicago company 37 >signals offers sites that allow business collabaration. >They have some freebies that might give you a way to >collaborate with something other than a wiki. > http://www.37signals.com/ > > The 37 signals stuff is not a wiki, but they strongly >support open source. They are the company that developed >Ruby on Rails and released it under the GPL. So its worth >a look > > On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 14:37:48 +0530 > "Arun K. Khan" wrote: >> >> >> Quote from the article below: >> >> "Sudoku?s popularity in the United States caught Mr. >>Kaji by such >> surprise that he did not try to get the trademark there >>until it was too >> late. As a result, Nikoli receives no royalties from >>sudoku-related >> sales overseas by other publishers. >> >> In hindsight, though, he now thinks that oversight was a >>brilliant >> mistake. The fact that no one controlled sudoku?s >>intellectual property >> rights let the game?s popularity grow unfettered, Mr. >>Kaji says. Nikoli >> does not plan to trademark other new games, either, in >>hopes this will >> also help them take off. >> >> >> http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/21/business/worldbusiness/21sudoku.html?_r=1&th&emc=th&oref=slogin >> >> -- arun khan >> >> -- >> Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion >> http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni > > -- > Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion >http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni From ccf3 at mindspring.com Fri Mar 23 13:05:06 2007 From: ccf3 at mindspring.com (Clyde Forrester) Date: Fri Mar 23 13:04:22 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Wiki with passwords References: Message-ID: <460424E2.1030004@mindspring.com> Jay Strauss wrote: > Hi, > > I'd like to have an internal wiki for my company. Most of the data > will be slightly sensitive. > > Can anyone suggest a wiki hosting company, that provides a wiki where > I (as the administrator) could create and remove users, give read & > write privs independently to different users, and attach files to > certain pages for download? > > Thanks > Jay You could look into Socialtext For an example, go to chicago.pm.org and click on Wiki From me at heyjay.com Fri Mar 23 16:24:30 2007 From: me at heyjay.com (Jay Strauss) Date: Fri Mar 23 15:24:35 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Wiki with passwords In-Reply-To: <460424E2.1030004@mindspring.com> References: <460424E2.1030004@mindspring.com> Message-ID: > > Thanks > > Jay > > You could look into Socialtext Thanks, I'll look through their features. Jay From me at heyjay.com Fri Mar 23 17:06:38 2007 From: me at heyjay.com (Jay Strauss) Date: Fri Mar 23 16:06:42 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Wiki with passwords In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > Textdrive has cheap shared hosting plans you can install a > wiki of your choice on. > http://textdrive.com/ > They support open source > > Since its an intranet, you could probably install your own > server and host the wiki yourself. That is unless your > work force is distributed and you don't want to build in > the large network support. > > There are also alternatives. The Chicago company 37 > signals offers sites that allow business collabaration. > They have some freebies that might give you a way to > collaborate with something other than a wiki. > http://www.37signals.com/ > > The 37 signals stuff is not a wiki, but they strongly > support open source. They are the company that developed > Ruby on Rails and released it under the GPL. So its worth > a look > > Sean Thanks Sean, I looked at 37signals.com, it didn't really seem like they had what I was looking for. I'm more asking the question of which wiki "brands" would allow me to have a private wiki, where, in order to view/add/update, one would have to be a registered user. And I as the administrator could remove add or remove users as I like. Thanks Jay From scott at cashnetusa.com Fri Mar 23 19:07:01 2007 From: scott at cashnetusa.com (Scott Lockwood) Date: Fri Mar 23 18:07:13 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Wiki with passwords In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1174694821.8416.9.camel@scott-640m> On Thu, 2007-03-22 at 22:04 -0500, Jay Strauss wrote: > I'd like to have an internal wiki for my company. Most of the data > will be slightly sensitive. > Can anyone suggest a wiki hosting company, that provides a wiki where > I (as the administrator) could create and remove users, give read & > write privs indepentantly to different users, and attach files to > certain pages for download? You can't host it internally? You're best bet is to make sure you're getting Mediawiki 1.9, and that it's been setup for that. Unfortunately, the functionality it sounds like you want really isn't built in yet. I host several wiki's here at work, and this has been a constant battle for me - the software just isn't there yet, and the wiki people don't seem to care. Expect that you'll need shell access, and you'll be hand editing files. From JJirsa at officite.com Fri Mar 23 19:09:14 2007 From: JJirsa at officite.com (Jeff Jirsa) Date: Fri Mar 23 18:09:21 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Wiki with passwords In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I've heard good things about Twiki (http://twiki.org/); its considered an enterprise class wiki. It looks like someone does hosting: http://www.siteground.com/twiki-hosting.htm. That's the first one I saw on Google, so I have no idea what they are like. -----Original Message----- From: luni-bounces@luni.org [mailto:luni-bounces@luni.org] On Behalf Of Jay Strauss Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 10:04 PM To: Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion Subject: [LUNI] Wiki with passwords Hi, I'd like to have an internal wiki for my company. Most of the data will be slightly sensitive. Can anyone suggest a wiki hosting company, that provides a wiki where I (as the administrator) could create and remove users, give read & write privs indepentantly to different users, and attach files to certain pages for download? Thanks Jay -- Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni From scott at cashnetusa.com Fri Mar 23 19:55:06 2007 From: scott at cashnetusa.com (Scott Lockwood) Date: Fri Mar 23 18:55:17 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Wiki with passwords In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1174697706.8867.0.camel@scott-640m> Also, take a look at this - it takes all the pain out of setting up your own wiki: http://www.jumpbox.com/ From sushitech at voxlox.com Fri Mar 23 21:15:54 2007 From: sushitech at voxlox.com (D. Wade) Date: Fri Mar 23 20:16:05 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Wiki with passwords In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <460489DA.5080104@voxlox.com> Projectlocker hosts TWiki, subversion, and various other development aids. We use them to host all our intra-company knowledge. However, if you decide to sign up with them and mention me, I get some referral kudos, so you have to decide if you want to trust a biased source or not. :) -- Derek W. Jay Strauss wrote: > Hi, > > I'd like to have an internal wiki for my company. Most of the data > will be slightly sensitive. > > Can anyone suggest a wiki hosting company, that provides a wiki where > I (as the administrator) could create and remove users, give read & > write privs indepentantly to different users, and attach files to > certain pages for download? > > Thanks > Jay From maney at two14.net Sat Mar 24 01:35:56 2007 From: maney at two14.net (Martin Maney) Date: Sat Mar 24 00:36:08 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Wiki with passwords In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20070324063556.GA6785@furrr.two14.net> On Fri, Mar 23, 2007 at 07:09:14PM -0500, Jeff Jirsa wrote: > an enterprise class wiki. I just wanted to run that past again to see if it still seemed as funny as it did the first time. Yep. /me is easily amused on Friday evening -- And that is called paying the Dane-geld; But we've proved it again and again, That if once you have paid him the Dane-geld You never get rid of the Dane. -- Kipling on MS Enterprise Licensing From tylerius at gmail.com Sun Mar 25 00:53:06 2007 From: tylerius at gmail.com (Tyler Stoffel) Date: Sun Mar 25 00:53:13 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Probably a dumb question Message-ID: <5823ed040703242353k255760e5p8b31e4815604bf02@mail.gmail.com> Hi LUNI, I need a program that can combine jpegs and audio files (preferably mp3 or ogg) into slideshow movies, without the bugs in cinelerra and jahshaka. A) does anyone know of any OR B) does anyone know a trick to get a Windows .exe or a Mac .dmg to work in Linux. Is that even possible? Thanks. Tyler Stoffel -- www.tylerstoffel.com tyler.stoffel@gmail.com 773.827.4468 "The only regret I will have in dying, is if it is not for love." -- Gabriel Garcia Marquez From dhorton at speakeasy.net Sun Mar 25 05:35:21 2007 From: dhorton at speakeasy.net (David Horton) Date: Sun Mar 25 05:35:31 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Probably a dumb question In-Reply-To: <5823ed040703242353k255760e5p8b31e4815604bf02@mail.gmail.com> References: <5823ed040703242353k255760e5p8b31e4815604bf02@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <46065E79.6030508@speakeasy.net> Tyler Stoffel wrote: > Hi LUNI, > > I need a program that can combine jpegs and audio files (preferably mp3 or > ogg) into slideshow movies, without the bugs in cinelerra and jahshaka. A) > does anyone know of any OR B) does anyone know a trick to get a Windows > .exe > or a Mac .dmg to work in Linux. Is that even possible? Thanks. > > Tyler Stoffel > I've had good experiences with Kino (www.kinodv.org) for editing home movies and dubbing sound tracks. I believe it can do slide shows as well. Try this article for more info related to slide shows: http://applications.linux.com/applications/07/03/09/0644209.shtml?tid=39 Dave From tylerius at gmail.com Sun Mar 25 09:02:44 2007 From: tylerius at gmail.com (Tyler Stoffel) Date: Sun Mar 25 09:02:47 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Probably a dumb question In-Reply-To: <46065E79.6030508@speakeasy.net> References: <5823ed040703242353k255760e5p8b31e4815604bf02@mail.gmail.com> <46065E79.6030508@speakeasy.net> Message-ID: <5823ed040703250802o4d899c13ra4f85047bf54dd80@mail.gmail.com> Yeah, I always thought Kino would do it, it sounds like it, but whenever I try to add a jpeg, I get an invalid file specified message. Tyler On 3/25/07, David Horton wrote: > > Tyler Stoffel wrote: > > Hi LUNI, > > > > I need a program that can combine jpegs and audio files (preferably mp3 > or > > ogg) into slideshow movies, without the bugs in cinelerra and jahshaka. > A) > > does anyone know of any OR B) does anyone know a trick to get a Windows > > .exe > > or a Mac .dmg to work in Linux. Is that even possible? Thanks. > > > > Tyler Stoffel > > > > I've had good experiences with Kino (www.kinodv.org) for editing home > movies and dubbing sound tracks. I believe it can do slide shows as > well. Try this article for more info related to slide shows: > http://applications.linux.com/applications/07/03/09/0644209.shtml?tid=39 > > Dave > -- > Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni > -- www.tylerstoffel.com tyler.stoffel@gmail.com 773.827.4468 "The only regret I will have in dying, is if it is not for love." -- Gabriel Garcia Marquez From mlabowicz at gmail.com Sun Mar 25 12:58:32 2007 From: mlabowicz at gmail.com (Michael Labowicz) Date: Sun Mar 25 11:58:35 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Computer parts in NW Suburbs Message-ID: Hey All, Now that CompUSA is closing down by Woodfield, I'm not sure where to go for last-minute computer parts anymore. Does anyone know a good place to buy power supplies, IDE cables, screws, etc for computers? I hate having to order online or drive very far for a single (hopefully) cheap component. I know that Best Buy and Circuit City sometimes carry computer parts, but IMHO they are very over-priced... Does anyone know of any honest, reasonably priced computer stores in the NW Suburb (Palatine) area? Thanks! -- Michael Labowicz http://www.labowicz.com/blog/ From skie at dragonsvalley.com Sun Mar 25 13:15:00 2007 From: skie at dragonsvalley.com (Branko Kotur) Date: Sun Mar 25 12:16:24 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Computer parts in NW Suburbs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200703251315.00320.skie@dragonsvalley.com> Other then Fry's and MicroCenter, there don't seem to be any large computer stores left in the Chicagoland area, at least that I'm aware of. Neither of these are near Palatine. You'll probably have to find a couple small mom and pop shops. Perhaps there's something at Woodfield? I don't go there very often, so I can't say for sure. On Sunday 25 March 2007 11:58 am, Michael Labowicz wrote: > Hey All, > Now that CompUSA is closing down by Woodfield, I'm not sure where to go for > last-minute computer parts anymore. Does anyone know a good place to buy > power supplies, IDE cables, screws, etc for computers? I hate having to > order online or drive very far for a single (hopefully) cheap component. I > know that Best Buy and Circuit City sometimes carry computer parts, but > IMHO they are very over-priced... Does anyone know of any honest, > reasonably priced computer stores in the NW Suburb (Palatine) area? > > Thanks! > -- > Michael Labowicz > http://www.labowicz.com/blog/ From r_a_smith3530 at sbcglobal.net Sun Mar 25 11:17:36 2007 From: r_a_smith3530 at sbcglobal.net (Robert Smith) Date: Sun Mar 25 12:24:24 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Computer parts in NW Suburbs In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <880333.26221.qm@web81305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Here's one in Crystal Lkae that I've dealt with... http://www.echeloncomputers.net/ Rob Smith Michael Labowicz wrote: Hey All, Now that CompUSA is closing down by Woodfield, I'm not sure where to go for last-minute computer parts anymore. Does anyone know a good place to buy power supplies, IDE cables, screws, etc for computers? I hate having to order online or drive very far for a single (hopefully) cheap component. I know that Best Buy and Circuit City sometimes carry computer parts, but IMHO they are very over-priced... Does anyone know of any honest, reasonably priced computer stores in the NW Suburb (Palatine) area? Thanks! -- Michael Labowicz http://www.labowicz.com/blog/ -- Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni From craig at codestorm.org Sun Mar 25 13:41:17 2007 From: craig at codestorm.org (Craig Van Tassle) Date: Sun Mar 25 12:41:20 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Computer parts in NW Suburbs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4606C24D.2050808@codestorm.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I used the pace called Mioda Computers a couple of years ago. They were in Schamburg. I'm not sure if they are still around. They had good prices and a good selection in stock. Michael Labowicz wrote: > Hey All, > Now that CompUSA is closing down by Woodfield, I'm not sure where to go for > last-minute computer parts anymore. Does anyone know a good place to buy > power supplies, IDE cables, screws, etc for computers? I hate having to > order online or drive very far for a single (hopefully) cheap component. I > know that Best Buy and Circuit City sometimes carry computer parts, but > IMHO > they are very over-priced... Does anyone know of any honest, reasonably > priced computer stores in the NW Suburb (Palatine) area? > > Thanks! -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGBsJNAOTIJ89W4sIRAhcaAKCKfhCbfNvTgQxo5Jj78XNU0xrUBQCfZ/Wr KcQX/Ak5SC+5450bMa30Y+4= =6Hhe -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From dabenesch at sbcglobal.net Sun Mar 25 11:53:14 2007 From: dabenesch at sbcglobal.net (Donald Benesch) Date: Sun Mar 25 12:53:21 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Computer parts in NW Suburbs In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <357455.19028.qm@web81112.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I believe the CompUSA in Northbrook is still going at Lake/Cook and the Edens. Don Michael Labowicz wrote: Hey All, Now that CompUSA is closing down by Woodfield, I'm not sure where to go for last-minute computer parts anymore. Does anyone know a good place to buy power supplies, IDE cables, screws, etc for computers? I hate having to order online or drive very far for a single (hopefully) cheap component. I know that Best Buy and Circuit City sometimes carry computer parts, but IMHO they are very over-priced... Does anyone know of any honest, reasonably priced computer stores in the NW Suburb (Palatine) area? Thanks! -- Michael Labowicz http://www.labowicz.com/blog/ -- Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni From linux at unliketea.com Sun Mar 25 13:30:44 2007 From: linux at unliketea.com (Steve Pribyl) Date: Sun Mar 25 12:54:22 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Computer parts in NW Suburbs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4606BFD4.6030105@unliketea.com> I frequent www.krex.com Steve Michael Labowicz wrote: > Hey All, > Now that CompUSA is closing down by Woodfield, I'm not sure where to go for > last-minute computer parts anymore. Does anyone know a good place to buy > power supplies, IDE cables, screws, etc for computers? I hate having to > order online or drive very far for a single (hopefully) cheap component. I > know that Best Buy and Circuit City sometimes carry computer parts, but > IMHO > they are very over-priced... Does anyone know of any honest, reasonably > priced computer stores in the NW Suburb (Palatine) area? > > Thanks! -- Steve Pribyl Steve AT NetFuel dot com Computer Infrastructure Practitioner For more information http://netfuel.com From skie at dragonsvalley.com Sun Mar 25 14:01:03 2007 From: skie at dragonsvalley.com (Branko Kotur) Date: Sun Mar 25 13:02:27 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Computer parts in NW Suburbs In-Reply-To: <357455.19028.qm@web81112.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <357455.19028.qm@web81112.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200703251401.03783.skie@dragonsvalley.com> On Sunday 25 March 2007 12:53 pm, Donald Benesch wrote: > I believe the CompUSA in Northbrook is still going at Lake/Cook and the > Edens. Don > I was under the impression that they were all going to close in the near future. From trev at advanced-reality.com Sun Mar 25 14:08:04 2007 From: trev at advanced-reality.com (Trev Peterson) Date: Sun Mar 25 13:04:07 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Computer parts in NW Suburbs In-Reply-To: <357455.19028.qm@web81112.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <357455.19028.qm@web81112.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1174849684.7918.64.camel@aegir.advanced-reality.com> Actually, the CompUSA in Highland Park (I think north of Lake-Cook is HP not Northbrook) is closing down as well. All sales are final since they are closing. I agree with the OP, I can't find any decent places in my area for PC components either. Trev On Sun, 2007-03-25 at 11:53 -0700, Donald Benesch wrote: > I believe the CompUSA in Northbrook is still going at Lake/Cook and the Edens. > Don > > Michael Labowicz wrote: Hey All, > Now that CompUSA is closing down by Woodfield, I'm not sure where to go for > last-minute computer parts anymore. Does anyone know a good place to buy > power supplies, IDE cables, screws, etc for computers? I hate having to > order online or drive very far for a single (hopefully) cheap component. I > know that Best Buy and Circuit City sometimes carry computer parts, but IMHO > they are very over-priced... Does anyone know of any honest, reasonably > priced computer stores in the NW Suburb (Palatine) area? > > Thanks! > -- > Michael Labowicz > http://www.labowicz.com/blog/ > -- > Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni > -- Trev Peterson Advanced Reality Email: trev@advanced-reality.com Phone: +1 847 406 9018 From tprinty at mail.edisonave.net Sun Mar 25 14:35:55 2007 From: tprinty at mail.edisonave.net (Tom Printy) Date: Sun Mar 25 13:26:39 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Computer parts in NW Suburbs In-Reply-To: <200703251315.00320.skie@dragonsvalley.com> References: <200703251315.00320.skie@dragonsvalley.com> Message-ID: <1174851355.5408.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> Tiger Direct has lots of parts. There are two stores in the Chicagoland area, Orland Park and Naperville. See http://www.tigerdirect.com/retailstores/index.asp for more info. -Tom On Sun, 2007-03-25 at 13:15 -0600, Branko Kotur wrote: > Other then Fry's and MicroCenter, there don't seem to be any large computer > stores left in the Chicagoland area, at least that I'm aware of. Neither of > these are near Palatine. You'll probably have to find a couple small mom and > pop shops. > > Perhaps there's something at Woodfield? I don't go there very often, so I > can't say for sure. > > On Sunday 25 March 2007 11:58 am, Michael Labowicz wrote: > > Hey All, > > Now that CompUSA is closing down by Woodfield, I'm not sure where to go for > > last-minute computer parts anymore. Does anyone know a good place to buy > > power supplies, IDE cables, screws, etc for computers? I hate having to > > order online or drive very far for a single (hopefully) cheap component. I > > know that Best Buy and Circuit City sometimes carry computer parts, but > > IMHO they are very over-priced... Does anyone know of any honest, > > reasonably priced computer stores in the NW Suburb (Palatine) area? > > > > Thanks! > > -- > > Michael Labowicz > > http://www.labowicz.com/blog/ From dhorton at speakeasy.net Sun Mar 25 13:43:13 2007 From: dhorton at speakeasy.net (David Horton) Date: Sun Mar 25 13:43:21 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Computer parts in NW Suburbs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4606D0D1.1090807@speakeasy.net> Michael Labowicz wrote: > Hey All, > Now that CompUSA is closing down by Woodfield, I'm not sure where to go for > last-minute computer parts anymore. Does anyone know a good place to buy > power supplies, IDE cables, screws, etc for computers? I hate having to > order online or drive very far for a single (hopefully) cheap component. I > know that Best Buy and Circuit City sometimes carry computer parts, but > IMHO > they are very over-priced... Does anyone know of any honest, reasonably > priced computer stores in the NW Suburb (Palatine) area? > > Thanks! Spartan Technologies in Elk Grove, near Busse Woods, has a will call window. If you phone in the order before a certain time, the stuff is ready next day. http://www.spartantech.com/help.asp?type=willcall From mark at msbrepairs.com Sun Mar 25 13:18:26 2007 From: mark at msbrepairs.com (mark@msbrepairs.com) Date: Sun Mar 25 14:18:34 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Computer parts in NW Suburbs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1174853906.4606d9127a651@webmail.msbrepairs.com> You could try www.c-br.com if elk grove village is within reach for you. They are at 2208 landmeier road and are not badly priced. Not sure about small packs of screws and stuff like that, but they tend to excel at drives, motherboards, ram, power supplies etc. From mlabowicz at gmail.com Sun Mar 25 22:42:40 2007 From: mlabowicz at gmail.com (Michael Labowicz) Date: Sun Mar 25 21:42:46 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Computer parts in NW Suburbs In-Reply-To: <4606BFD4.6030105@unliketea.com> References: <4606BFD4.6030105@unliketea.com> Message-ID: The prices there look reasonable, but it's a bit far from Palatine... The other nearby suggestion, myoda computers, look like they've stopped selling individual parts, but all is not lost: I found a $10 IDE cable at Circuit City today. It was the last one and it was all rolled into a plastic cylinder tube - perfect for limiting wire tangles inside the computer case! Mike On 3/25/07, Steve Pribyl wrote: > > I frequent > > www.krex.com > > Steve > > Michael Labowicz wrote: > > Hey All, > > Now that CompUSA is closing down by Woodfield, I'm not sure where to go > for > > last-minute computer parts anymore. Does anyone know a good place to > buy > > power supplies, IDE cables, screws, etc for computers? I hate having to > > order online or drive very far for a single (hopefully) cheap > component. I > > know that Best Buy and Circuit City sometimes carry computer parts, but > > IMHO > > they are very over-priced... Does anyone know of any honest, reasonably > > priced computer stores in the NW Suburb (Palatine) area? > > > > Thanks! > > -- > Steve Pribyl > Steve AT NetFuel dot com > Computer Infrastructure Practitioner > > For more information > http://netfuel.com > > -- > Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni > -- Michael Labowicz http://www.labowicz.com/blog/ From jkaplenk at aol.com Mon Mar 26 10:23:00 2007 From: jkaplenk at aol.com (jkaplenk@aol.com) Date: Mon Mar 26 08:23:32 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Computer parts in NW Suburbs In-Reply-To: <200703251401.03783.skie@dragonsvalley.com> References: <357455.19028.qm@web81112.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <200703251401.03783.skie@dragonsvalley.com> Message-ID: <8C93DC96428DCCF-16B0-79D1@WEBMAIL-MA10.sysops.aol.com> All of the CompUSA stores in Illinois are closing except the one in Rockford. They are closing several hundred stores nationwide. I think the one in Schaumburg will be the last to go because they have been keeping prices pretty high while the others are discounting more heavily. CDW is located in Vernon Hills and has a good selection on the floor and a big warehouse to back it up. They are located at 200 N. Milwaukee Ave. Vernon Hills, IL. and are open Saturday till 2 p.m. according to the website. I personally like Tiger Direct in Naperville, Both CDW and Tiger Direct, are pretty good about mail orders. Joe Kaplenk -----Original Message----- From: skie@dragonsvalley.com To: luni@luni.org Sent: Sun, 25 Mar 2007 3:01 PM Subject: Re: [LUNI] Computer parts in NW Suburbs On Sunday 25 March 2007 12:53 pm, Donald Benesch wrote: > I believe the CompUSA in Northbrook is still going at Lake/Cook and the > Edens. Don > I was under the impression that they were all going to close in the near future. -- Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. From me at heyjay.com Mon Mar 26 12:55:47 2007 From: me at heyjay.com (Jay Strauss) Date: Mon Mar 26 11:55:52 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Computer parts in NW Suburbs In-Reply-To: <1174849684.7918.64.camel@aegir.advanced-reality.com> References: <357455.19028.qm@web81112.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <1174849684.7918.64.camel@aegir.advanced-reality.com> Message-ID: On 3/25/07, Trev Peterson wrote: > Actually, the CompUSA in Highland Park (I think north of Lake-Cook is HP > not Northbrook) is closing down as well. All sales are final since they > are closing. > > I agree with the OP, I can't find any decent places in my area for PC > components either. > > Trev FYI, I was at the CompUSA in HP this weekend. They sure didn't seem to have very great prices. Almost seemed like things were marked up to be marked down for the "big" sale. Jay From skie at dragonsvalley.com Mon Mar 26 13:10:30 2007 From: skie at dragonsvalley.com (Branko Kotur) Date: Mon Mar 26 12:11:44 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Computer parts in NW Suburbs In-Reply-To: References: <357455.19028.qm@web81112.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <1174849684.7918.64.camel@aegir.advanced-reality.com> Message-ID: <200703261310.31212.skie@dragonsvalley.com> On Monday 26 March 2007 11:55 am, Jay Strauss wrote: > FYI, I was at the CompUSA in HP this weekend. They sure didn't seem > to have very great prices. Almost seemed like things were marked up > to be marked down for the "big" sale. > > Jay My understanding is that this is illegal to do. Whether or not they're actually doing it is another matter. From trev at advanced-reality.com Mon Mar 26 14:43:57 2007 From: trev at advanced-reality.com (Trev Peterson) Date: Mon Mar 26 13:39:59 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Computer parts in NW Suburbs In-Reply-To: References: <357455.19028.qm@web81112.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <1174849684.7918.64.camel@aegir.advanced-reality.com> Message-ID: <1174938237.7918.91.camel@aegir.advanced-reality.com> Yeah, I've been in there as well. Even at a 30% discount they are not competitive with online stores. The normal prices were ridiculously high with 30% off (most items are 10-15% off) they are still high. Trev On Mon, 2007-03-26 at 12:55 -0500, Jay Strauss wrote: > On 3/25/07, Trev Peterson wrote: > > Actually, the CompUSA in Highland Park (I think north of Lake-Cook is HP > > not Northbrook) is closing down as well. All sales are final since they > > are closing. > > > > I agree with the OP, I can't find any decent places in my area for PC > > components either. > > > > Trev > > FYI, I was at the CompUSA in HP this weekend. They sure didn't seem > to have very great prices. Almost seemed like things were marked up > to be marked down for the "big" sale. > > Jay -- Trev Peterson Advanced Reality Email: trev@advanced-reality.com Phone: +1 847 406 9018 From JJirsa at officite.com Mon Mar 26 15:39:32 2007 From: JJirsa at officite.com (Jeff Jirsa) Date: Mon Mar 26 14:39:39 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Computer parts in NW Suburbs In-Reply-To: <4606D0D1.1090807@speakeasy.net> References: <4606D0D1.1090807@speakeasy.net> Message-ID: Mark One Computers, also in Elk Grove Village, has decent prices and they have will call/customer pick up. http://www.markonecomputers.com/ http://www.markonecomputers.com/GuestMenus/CustomerPickup/tabid/104/Defa ult.aspx I used to buy more from them when they used to be at the computer show at COD. You can't go wrong buying from Spartan or Mark One. -----Original Message----- From: luni-bounces@luni.org [mailto:luni-bounces@luni.org] On Behalf Of David Horton Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 2:43 PM To: Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion Subject: Re: [LUNI] Computer parts in NW Suburbs Michael Labowicz wrote: > Hey All, > Now that CompUSA is closing down by Woodfield, I'm not sure where to go for > last-minute computer parts anymore. Does anyone know a good place to buy > power supplies, IDE cables, screws, etc for computers? I hate having to > order online or drive very far for a single (hopefully) cheap component. I > know that Best Buy and Circuit City sometimes carry computer parts, but > IMHO > they are very over-priced... Does anyone know of any honest, reasonably > priced computer stores in the NW Suburb (Palatine) area? > > Thanks! Spartan Technologies in Elk Grove, near Busse Woods, has a will call window. If you phone in the order before a certain time, the stuff is ready next day. http://www.spartantech.com/help.asp?type=willcall -- Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni From larry at garfieldtech.com Mon Mar 26 20:51:17 2007 From: larry at garfieldtech.com (Larry Garfield) Date: Mon Mar 26 19:51:48 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Wiki with passwords In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200703262051.17558.larry@garfieldtech.com> Disclaimer: I loath wikis. :-) Inventing a new obscure syntax so that you don't have to learn HTML, when it gets translated to HTML anyway, is bass-ackwards and a waste of brain cells. However, there are a lot of wiki packages out there that should have those features. You could also build one yourself with Drupal and a couple of modules. You can configure it to use a wiki-esque syntax or skip that and just use a subset of HTML directly as god intended. Most halfway-decent web hosts will do, for Drupal or any other wiki package. Disclaimer: I am a Drupal developer, so I'm biased. :-) Also, if the information really is sensitive enough that you don't want someone outside your company to see it, then put it behind your firewall. Whatever software you use, just stick it behind the firewall with no global routing. Much safer that way. On Thursday 22 March 2007 10:04 pm, Jay Strauss wrote: > Hi, > > I'd like to have an internal wiki for my company. Most of the data > will be slightly sensitive. > > Can anyone suggest a wiki hosting company, that provides a wiki where > I (as the administrator) could create and remove users, give read & > write privs indepentantly to different users, and attach files to > certain pages for download? > > Thanks > Jay -- Larry Garfield AIM: LOLG42 larry@garfieldtech.com ICQ: 6817012 "If nature has made any one thing less susceptible than all others of exclusive property, it is the action of the thinking power called an idea, which an individual may exclusively possess as long as he keeps it to himself; but the moment it is divulged, it forces itself into the possession of every one, and the receiver cannot dispossess himself of it." -- Thomas Jefferson From eric at MacAdie.net Thu Mar 29 00:35:32 2007 From: eric at MacAdie.net (Eric MacAdie) Date: Wed Mar 28 23:36:13 2007 Subject: [LUNI] DSL Providers Message-ID: <460B5024.4050308@MacAdie.net> Best Buy is buying Speakeasy. Can anybody name any other DSL providers who let you run a server and do not require you to have an AT&T line? Eric MacAdie From skie at dragonsvalley.com Thu Mar 29 00:47:04 2007 From: skie at dragonsvalley.com (Branko Kotur) Date: Wed Mar 28 23:47:53 2007 Subject: [LUNI] DSL Providers In-Reply-To: <460B5024.4050308@MacAdie.net> References: <460B5024.4050308@MacAdie.net> Message-ID: <200703290047.04810.skie@dragonsvalley.com> On Wednesday 28 March 2007 11:35 pm, Eric MacAdie wrote: > Best Buy is buying Speakeasy. Can anybody name any other DSL providers > who let you run a server and do not require you to have an AT&T line? > > Eric MacAdie Where did you hear this? I've read that AT&T's new UVerse service doesn't require a phone line from AT&T. This was listed in the FAQ on their website at https://uverse1.att.com/launchAMSS.do Althought, it doesn't look like it's being offered in the Chicago area at this time. And I don't know if they would allow servers. From sfaci at cs.uic.edu Thu Mar 29 00:51:24 2007 From: sfaci at cs.uic.edu (Samir Faci) Date: Wed Mar 28 23:51:26 2007 Subject: [LUNI] DSL Providers In-Reply-To: <460B5024.4050308@MacAdie.net> References: <460B5024.4050308@MacAdie.net> Message-ID: <9db93b0e0703282251u530df59x28962c094ae3fe13@mail.gmail.com> nope. Cable/Satelite? and I'd like to know if this is legit info and even if they are getting bought, why you think they'll stop offering a dry loop. -- Samir On 3/29/07, Eric MacAdie wrote: > > Best Buy is buying Speakeasy. Can anybody name any other DSL providers > who let you run a server and do not require you to have an AT&T line? > > Eric MacAdie > -- > Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni > From skie at dragonsvalley.com Thu Mar 29 01:04:56 2007 From: skie at dragonsvalley.com (Branko Kotur) Date: Thu Mar 29 00:05:40 2007 Subject: [LUNI] DSL Providers In-Reply-To: <200703290047.04810.skie@dragonsvalley.com> References: <460B5024.4050308@MacAdie.net> <200703290047.04810.skie@dragonsvalley.com> Message-ID: <200703290104.56477.skie@dragonsvalley.com> On Thursday 29 March 2007 12:47 am, Branko Kotur wrote: > Where did you hear this? > Well, I just found the news on this. http://www.speakeasy.net/press/pr/pr032707.php From eric at MacAdie.net Thu Mar 29 01:05:44 2007 From: eric at MacAdie.net (Eric MacAdie) Date: Thu Mar 29 00:05:53 2007 Subject: [LUNI] DSL Providers In-Reply-To: <9db93b0e0703282251u530df59x28962c094ae3fe13@mail.gmail.com> References: <460B5024.4050308@MacAdie.net> <9db93b0e0703282251u530df59x28962c094ae3fe13@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <460B5738.20507@MacAdie.net> http://www.speakeasy.net/press/pr/pr032707.php http://bestbuymedia.tekgroup.com/article_display.cfm?article_id=352 I am a bit surprised this is not a hot topic on this list. Eric MacAdie Samir Faci wrote: > nope. Cable/Satelite? > > and I'd like to know if this is legit info and even if they are getting > bought, why you think they'll stop offering a dry loop. > > -- > Samir > > On 3/29/07, Eric MacAdie wrote: >> >> Best Buy is buying Speakeasy. Can anybody name any other DSL providers >> who let you run a server and do not require you to have an AT&T line? >> >> Eric MacAdie >> -- >> Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion >> http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni >> From skie at dragonsvalley.com Thu Mar 29 01:14:49 2007 From: skie at dragonsvalley.com (Branko Kotur) Date: Thu Mar 29 00:15:33 2007 Subject: [LUNI] DSL Providers In-Reply-To: <460B5738.20507@MacAdie.net> References: <460B5024.4050308@MacAdie.net> <9db93b0e0703282251u530df59x28962c094ae3fe13@mail.gmail.com> <460B5738.20507@MacAdie.net> Message-ID: <200703290114.49727.skie@dragonsvalley.com> On Thursday 29 March 2007 12:05 am, Eric MacAdie wrote: > http://www.speakeasy.net/press/pr/pr032707.php > > http://bestbuymedia.tekgroup.com/article_display.cfm?article_id=352 > > I am a bit surprised this is not a hot topic on this list. > > Eric MacAdie I didn't even know about it until you mentioned it. I'm not worried about the level of support that I'll be getting from Speakeasy (I'm a customer). Up to now, they've been excelent. I'm debating switching just because it's Best Buy. Does anyone know if phone number portability extends to VOIP phones? From craig at codestorm.org Thu Mar 29 08:25:47 2007 From: craig at codestorm.org (Craig Van Tassle) Date: Thu Mar 29 07:21:54 2007 Subject: [LUNI] DSL Providers In-Reply-To: <200703290114.49727.skie@dragonsvalley.com> References: <460B5024.4050308@MacAdie.net> <9db93b0e0703282251u530df59x28962c094ae3fe13@mail.gmail.com> <460B5738.20507@MacAdie.net> <200703290114.49727.skie@dragonsvalley.com> Message-ID: <460BBE5B.9080202@codestorm.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Phone portability does extend to VOIP phones. I don't think that they will do much with the support or offering of Speakeasy's ISP offerings. Even when they took Geek Squad it took them a while to destroy it, so that at least gives you a bit of breathing room. As for dry-loop dsl check out DSLXtreme, IIRC they may have something that they can offer. Also MegaPath and DLS also are ISP's I would check out. Branko Kotur wrote: > On Thursday 29 March 2007 12:05 am, Eric MacAdie wrote: >> http://www.speakeasy.net/press/pr/pr032707.php >> >> http://bestbuymedia.tekgroup.com/article_display.cfm?article_id=352 >> >> I am a bit surprised this is not a hot topic on this list. >> >> Eric MacAdie > > I didn't even know about it until you mentioned it. I'm not worried about the > level of support that I'll be getting from Speakeasy (I'm a customer). Up to > now, they've been excelent. I'm debating switching just because it's Best > Buy. Does anyone know if phone number portability extends to VOIP phones? -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGC75bAOTIJ89W4sIRAs7cAKDkjEyjmp7gfZFcmL9e7kqbanq7kACg0h/6 bQIlc5YMYnWcKQNigks7vFQ= =Xknr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From scott at cashnetusa.com Thu Mar 29 10:05:17 2007 From: scott at cashnetusa.com (Scott Lockwood) Date: Thu Mar 29 09:05:32 2007 Subject: [LUNI] DSL Providers In-Reply-To: <200703290114.49727.skie@dragonsvalley.com> References: <460B5024.4050308@MacAdie.net> <9db93b0e0703282251u530df59x28962c094ae3fe13@mail.gmail.com> <200703290114.49727.skie@dragonsvalley.com> Message-ID: <1175180717.5687.4.camel@scott-640m.checkgiant.com> On Thu, 2007-03-29 at 01:14 -0600, Branko Kotur wrote: > On Thursday 29 March 2007 12:05 am, Eric MacAdie wrote: > Buy. Does anyone know if phone number portability extends to VOIP phones? Yes. It's your number. From sjk at cupacoffee.net Thu Mar 29 10:30:29 2007 From: sjk at cupacoffee.net (sjk) Date: Thu Mar 29 09:47:05 2007 Subject: [LUNI] DSL Providers In-Reply-To: <200703290047.04810.skie@dragonsvalley.com> References: <460B5024.4050308@MacAdie.net> <200703290047.04810.skie@dragonsvalley.com> Message-ID: <460BDB95.9040002@cupacoffee.net> Branko Kotur wrote: > On Wednesday 28 March 2007 11:35 pm, Eric MacAdie wrote: >> Best Buy is buying Speakeasy. Can anybody name any other DSL providers >> who let you run a server and do not require you to have an AT&T line? >> >> Eric MacAdie > > Where did you hear this? > > I've read that AT&T's new UVerse service doesn't require a phone line from > AT&T. This was listed in the FAQ on their website at > https://uverse1.att.com/launchAMSS.do > > Althought, it doesn't look like it's being offered in the Chicago area at this > time. And I don't know if they would allow servers. re. UVerse: while this is technically true; you must remember that ATT owns all the copper in this area -- others lease the bundles and either leaves them dry or add dialtone. As Uverse cross-connects are done locally, and not at CO, any copper into the home would be usable, provided it passes through a local DSLAM wiring box. Personally, I think it is unlikely you will see Uverse deployed in Chicago anytime soon -- given the build out costs and competition in the area. Most likely, it will show up in new subdivision construction in upscale areas first. I believe you can get DSL service from