From jquigley at jquigley.com Wed May 2 00:50:39 2007 From: jquigley at jquigley.com (John Quigley) Date: Tue May 1 23:50:55 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Chicago GNU/Linux Meeting: May 5 Message-ID: <4638189F.9050800@jquigley.com> Folks: The Chicago GNU/Linux Group is meeting on Cinco de Mayo, Saturday, May 5th, 2007 at 3:00pm. As a part of our Chicago Open Source Tour, we'll be meeting at the Cleversafe, Inc. offices, right off the red and green lines by US Cellular Field: http://tinyurl.com/2j22sn Our presentations are set to be: * Programming with Lua (Tristan Sloughter) * Ruby on Rails (Evan Farrar) * Intro To Unicode (Clyde Forrester) We'll be celebrating Cinco de Mayo as a group with a soccer game before the meeting, at 1p, and a BBQ with drinks at a nearby house afterwards, around 6p. This is a community thing, and we'd love to see some new faces, so please come on out! Here is a map that plots out where we'll be: http://www.jquigley.com/tmp/cinco-de-mayo-directions.jpg For further information, please visit our website: http://www.chicagolug.org/ Also, feel free to call or email me directly with questions or concerns. Regards, John Quigley web: http://www.jquigley.com/ cell: 312.351.3671 mail: jq@jquigley.com From steven.mcgrath at chigeek.com Wed May 2 00:58:52 2007 From: steven.mcgrath at chigeek.com (Steven McGrath) Date: Tue May 1 23:58:56 2007 Subject: [LUNI] May Chicago 2600/DefCon 312 Meeting Information Message-ID: <28326b7c0705012158o1123c79uf3dc5ad4ba8248c1@mail.gmail.com> The May Chicago 2600 Meeting is near! The meeting will be Friday, May 4th at the Neighborhood Boys and Girls Club and will feature much of the same usual fun that all of you have grown to expect! [Chi2600 Crypto Challange] The second crypto challenge for Chicago 2600 will proceed with the same rules. You have until midnight of the knight of the meeting. Contact Steven McGrath (or Maniac if you prefer) with the answer to the final part of the challenge. A prize will be awarded to the winner. If you complete the challenge before the meeting begins, please send an email to me personally (not to the list) with the answer in plain text (no crypto please) and then make sure to contact me during the meeting to be awarded your prize. Phase1: http://[12/20/35/38/56/76/111/132/134/135/142///175/192/214/220/244/272/295/318/347/366] [Presentation Information] - 8:00pm - Unicode (Forrester) - 9:00pm - Hax by Jaku (Jaku, Alk) - 10.00pm - Chicago2600 Website Panel (Maniac, Darkstorm, Battery, et. al.) - After hours - Wii, Music, Socializing, etc. [General Information] - Meeting Time: 7.00pm - Approx. 3-5am - Meeting Date: Friday, May. 4th - Place : 2501 W Irving Park Road, Chicago - More Info : http://chicago2600.net From m.mccune at comcast.net Thu May 3 01:14:22 2007 From: m.mccune at comcast.net (Mike McCune) Date: Thu May 3 00:14:40 2007 Subject: [LUNI] ANN: WCLUG is this Thursday! Message-ID: <46396FAE.1050401@comcast.net> Once again we have 1/2 price food and a $25 tab to start the evening. As usual we will discuss all things open and surf the 'net while enjoying food and drink (BYOB). For time and directions, go to www.wclug.org -- Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Announcements Mailing List http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni-announce From TCORRIG at transunion.com Tue May 1 12:36:41 2007 From: TCORRIG at transunion.com (Corrigan, Tim) Date: Thu May 3 10:41:17 2007 Subject: [LUNI] JOBS Open at TransUnion in Chicago Message-ID: <7573092CA14C45469AF1D622EF178A963926CE@CHI4EVS03.corp.transunion.com> As per Seva, I have attached a posting for three positions we are currently hiring for. We'd like to have these employees on board in the next 3-4 weeks. Thank you and I hope we're able to help out some of your members. Tim Corrigan Tim Corrigan Staffing Consultant TransUnion 525 W. Monroe 12th Floor Chicago, IL 60661 312.985.3286 312.466.7982 fax www.transunion.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: LUNI Job Posting.doc Type: application/msword Size: 35840 bytes Desc: LUNI Job Posting.doc Url : http://luni.org/pipermail/luni/attachments/20070501/c2226451/LUNIJobPosting-0001.doc From lrochester at scooterworks.com Fri May 4 17:20:15 2007 From: lrochester at scooterworks.com (luther rochester) Date: Fri May 4 16:20:40 2007 Subject: [LUNI] small TV recording job Message-ID: <463BA38F.8070300@scooterworks.com> I have a small one-time job for somebody. I need a single episode of a TV show recorded the week after next. I'm not set up to do this, and I don't have cable anyway, so I'll pay somebody a fair fee to record it for me and give me a DVD. Please email me off list if you're interested. Thanks, -- ./luther From kgarner at kgarner.com Fri May 4 17:26:41 2007 From: kgarner at kgarner.com (Keith T. Garner) Date: Fri May 4 16:53:55 2007 Subject: [LUNI] small TV recording job In-Reply-To: <463BA38F.8070300@scooterworks.com> References: <463BA38F.8070300@scooterworks.com> Message-ID: <463BA511.1020405@kgarner.com> On 5/4/07 4:20 PM, luther rochester wrote: > I have a small one-time job for somebody. I need a single episode of a > TV show recorded the week after next. I'm not set up to do this, and I > don't have cable anyway, so I'll pay somebody a fair fee to record it > for me and give me a DVD. > Please email me off list if you're interested. Wow, I think you just invented the LVR. Luni Video Recorder. :) Now that I advocate doing anything morally or ethicly wrong, but wouldn't say...the internet and bittorrent also help you here? Keith -- Keith T. Garner kgarner@kgarner.com "Make no little plans; they have no magic to stir men's blood." - Daniel H. Burnham From craig at codestorm.org Fri May 4 17:59:58 2007 From: craig at codestorm.org (Craig Van Tassle) Date: Fri May 4 16:56:45 2007 Subject: [LUNI] small TV recording job In-Reply-To: <463BA511.1020405@kgarner.com> References: <463BA38F.8070300@scooterworks.com> <463BA511.1020405@kgarner.com> Message-ID: <463BACDE.7060107@codestorm.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Lol. LVR. I like. Hey if I could I would set up MythTV so that I could manage it from work :D (and watch tv!) Keith T. Garner wrote: > On 5/4/07 4:20 PM, luther rochester wrote: >> I have a small one-time job for somebody. I need a single episode of a >> TV show recorded the week after next. I'm not set up to do this, and I >> don't have cable anyway, so I'll pay somebody a fair fee to record it >> for me and give me a DVD. >> Please email me off list if you're interested. > > Wow, I think you just invented the LVR. Luni Video Recorder. :) > > Now that I advocate doing anything morally or ethicly wrong, but wouldn't > say...the internet and bittorrent also help you here? > > Keith > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGO6zeAOTIJ89W4sIRAvcKAJ9dXHjn9fmEaqkM+3TsHLI9ZS3ILACfTB+s o/x58dRQI9bInl15srFW9K4= =NJr4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From ohrock at gmail.com Fri May 4 19:13:19 2007 From: ohrock at gmail.com (Roberto Serrano) Date: Fri May 4 18:13:35 2007 Subject: [LUNI] small TV recording job In-Reply-To: <463BACDE.7060107@codestorm.org> References: <463BA38F.8070300@scooterworks.com> <463BA511.1020405@kgarner.com> <463BACDE.7060107@codestorm.org> Message-ID: <3d76512f0705041613k78ccaadek3a5a237093fe2dd1@mail.gmail.com> I will do it for you. PM me privately, and we can set something up. As long as it is not HD, and it is available in a basic comcast cable, it should not be a problem. Roberto On 5/4/07, Craig Van Tassle wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Lol. LVR. I like. Hey if I could I would set up MythTV so that I could > manage it > from work :D (and watch tv!) > > > Keith T. Garner wrote: > > On 5/4/07 4:20 PM, luther rochester wrote: > >> I have a small one-time job for somebody. I need a single episode of a > >> TV show recorded the week after next. I'm not set up to do this, and I > >> don't have cable anyway, so I'll pay somebody a fair fee to record it > >> for me and give me a DVD. > >> Please email me off list if you're interested. > > > > Wow, I think you just invented the LVR. Luni Video Recorder. :) > > > > Now that I advocate doing anything morally or ethicly wrong, but > wouldn't > > say...the internet and bittorrent also help you here? > > > > Keith > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (MingW32) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iD8DBQFGO6zeAOTIJ89W4sIRAvcKAJ9dXHjn9fmEaqkM+3TsHLI9ZS3ILACfTB+s > o/x58dRQI9bInl15srFW9K4= > =NJr4 > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > -- > Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni > From ken at stox.org Sat May 5 22:07:31 2007 From: ken at stox.org (Kenneth P. Stox) Date: Sat May 5 21:07:57 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Truth Happens Message-ID: <1178417251.7438.9.camel@stox.dyndns.org> Nice ad from RedHat: http://www.hemmy.net/2007/05/05/truth-happens-linux-ad/ From tprinty at mail.edisonave.net Mon May 7 12:54:38 2007 From: tprinty at mail.edisonave.net (tprinty) Date: Mon May 7 11:54:50 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Debian Consultant Sought. Message-ID: <1178556878.25243.24.camel@localhost> Hello, I am looking for an individual or company int he Chicago area specializing in debian for on on site temporary gig. There were are few on the web page at http://www.debian.org/consultants/ but most of the people seem to be doing other things or out of business. I would appreciate any and all contacts for a debian consultant. Thanks -Tom From Andy_Bach at wiwb.uscourts.gov Mon May 7 16:44:56 2007 From: Andy_Bach at wiwb.uscourts.gov (Andy_Bach@wiwb.uscourts.gov) Date: Mon May 7 15:48:59 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Redhat swap memory crash Message-ID: Hey, Sorry, for the logs but - we've got Linux version 2.4.21-40.ELsmp (bhcompile@hs20-bc1-7.build.redhat.com) (gcc version 3.2.3 20030502 (Red Hat Linux 3.2.3-54)) w/ 2 Gig of ram # cat /proc/meminfo total: used: free: shared: buffers: cached: Mem: 2104774656 1760980992 343793664 0 159186944 1419739136 Swap: 2147442688 0 2147442688 MemTotal: 2055444 kB MemFree: 335736 kB MemShared: 0 kB Buffers: 155456 kB Cached: 1386464 kB SwapCached: 0 kB Active: 831792 kB ActiveAnon: 27212 kB ActiveCache: 804580 kB Inact_dirty: 566508 kB Inact_laundry: 170388 kB Inact_clean: 0 kB Inact_target: 313736 kB HighTotal: 1179596 kB HighFree: 27636 kB LowTotal: 875848 kB LowFree: 308100 kB SwapTotal: 2097112 kB SwapFree: 2097112 kB CommitLimit: 3124832 kB Committed_AS: 339612 kB HugePages_Total: 0 HugePages_Free: 0 Hugepagesize: 2048 kB twice now, in the last week, the box has locked up. messages shows the 8 or so minutes worth of "Mem-info" entries (see below) before becoming frozen. A webserver (Apache, nearly constant access) starts kicking back "500" pages about a minute after the first Mem-info entry (perhaps as the child was killed?) but seemed to recover and continue serving until reboot. 2 questions (at least): 1) what is all the Mem-info info and is there anything useful in there (aside from zero swap ;-). 2. What kicks off the mem-info situation and how does it choose what processes to kill? Any hints, pointers etc. much apreciated. a Apr 30 15:45:03 wiwbleo kernel: Mem-info: Apr 30 15:45:03 wiwbleo kernel: Zone:DMA freepages: 2880 min: 0 low: 0 high: 0 Apr 30 15:45:03 wiwbleo kernel: Zone:Normal freepages: 1276 min: 1278 low: 4543 high: 6303 Apr 30 15:45:03 wiwbleo kernel: Zone:HighMem freepages: 207 min: 255 low: 4606 high: 6909 Apr 30 15:45:03 wiwbleo kernel: Free pages: 4363 ( 207 HighMem) Apr 30 15:45:03 wiwbleo kernel: ( Active: 470301/7922, inactive_laundry: 0, inactive_clean: 0, free: 4363 ) Apr 30 15:45:03 wiwbleo kernel: aa:0 ac:0 id:0 il:0 ic:0 fr:2880 Apr 30 15:45:03 wiwbleo kernel: aa:192808 ac:1711 id:3616 il:0 ic:0 fr:1276 Apr 30 15:45:03 wiwbleo kernel: aa:273269 ac:2484 id:4335 il:0 ic:0 fr:207 Apr 30 15:45:03 wiwbleo kernel: 0*4kB 0*8kB 2*16kB 3*32kB 4*64kB 1*128kB 1*256kB 1*512kB 0*1024kB 1*2048kB 2*4096kB = 11520kB) Apr 30 15:45:03 wiwbleo kernel: 0*4kB 2*8kB 2*16kB 0*32kB 1*64kB 13*128kB 7*256kB 1*512kB 1*1024kB 0*2048kB 0*4096kB = 5104kB) Apr 30 15:45:03 wiwbleo kernel: 19*4kB 0*8kB 1*16kB 1*32kB 1*64kB 1*128kB 0*256kB 1*512kB 0*1024kB 0*2048kB 0*4096kB = 828kB) Apr 30 15:45:05 wiwbleo kernel: Swap cache: add 2137150, delete 2137074, find 5527644/5746138, race 0+12 Apr 30 15:45:05 wiwbleo kernel: 7873 pages of slabcache Apr 30 15:45:06 wiwbleo kernel: 2328 pages of kernel stacks Apr 30 15:45:06 wiwbleo kernel: 0 lowmem pagetables, 13825 highmem pagetables Apr 30 15:45:06 wiwbleo kernel: 32 bounce buffer pages, 32 are on the emergency list Apr 30 15:45:06 wiwbleo kernel: Free swap: 0kB Apr 30 15:45:06 wiwbleo kernel: 524275 pages of RAM Apr 30 15:45:06 wiwbleo kernel: 294899 pages of HIGHMEM Apr 30 15:45:06 wiwbleo kernel: 10414 reserved pages Apr 30 15:45:06 wiwbleo kernel: 387065 pages shared Apr 30 15:45:06 wiwbleo kernel: 90 pages swap cached Apr 30 15:45:06 wiwbleo kernel: Out of Memory: Killed process 23209 (hpsmhd). ... Apr 30 15:46:52 wiwbleo kernel: Mem-info: Apr 30 15:46:52 wiwbleo kernel: Zone:DMA freepages: 2880 min: 0 low: 0 high: 0 Apr 30 15:46:52 wiwbleo kernel: Zone:Normal freepages: 1277 min: 1278 low: 4543 high: 6303 Apr 30 15:46:52 wiwbleo kernel: Zone:HighMem freepages: 254 min: 255 low: 4606 high: 6909 Apr 30 15:46:52 wiwbleo kernel: Free pages: 4411 ( 254 HighMem) Apr 30 15:46:52 wiwbleo kernel: ( Active: 477887/384, inactive_laundry: 126, inactive_clean: 0, free: 4411 ) Apr 30 15:46:52 wiwbleo kernel: aa:0 ac:0 id:0 il:0 ic:0 fr:2880 Apr 30 15:46:52 wiwbleo kernel: aa:196156 ac:1940 id:190 il:112 ic:0 fr:1277 Apr 30 15:46:52 wiwbleo kernel: aa:277064 ac:2744 id:192 il:0 ic:0 fr:254 Apr 30 15:46:52 wiwbleo kernel: 0*4kB 0*8kB 2*16kB 3*32kB 4*64kB 1*128kB 1*256kB 1*512kB 0*1024kB 1*2048kB 2*4096kB = 11520kB) Apr 30 15:46:52 wiwbleo kernel: 17*4kB 2*8kB 0*16kB 1*32kB 0*64kB 13*128kB 7*256kB 1*512kB 1*1024kB 0*2048kB 0*4096kB = 5108kB) Apr 30 15:46:52 wiwbleo kernel: 4*4kB 5*8kB 8*16kB 0*32kB 3*64kB 1*128kB 0*256kB 1*512kB 0*1024kB 0*2048kB 0*4096kB = 1016kB) Apr 30 15:46:52 wiwbleo kernel: Swap cache: add 2194745, delete 2194683, find 5537099/5771879, race 0+78 Apr 30 15:46:52 wiwbleo kernel: 7642 pages of slabcache Apr 30 15:46:52 wiwbleo kernel: 2288 pages of kernel stacks Apr 30 15:46:52 wiwbleo kernel: 0 lowmem pagetables, 13869 highmem pagetables Apr 30 15:46:52 wiwbleo kernel: 32 bounce buffer pages, 32 are on the emergency list Apr 30 15:46:52 wiwbleo kernel: Free swap: 0kB Apr 30 15:46:53 wiwbleo kernel: 524275 pages of RAM Apr 30 15:46:53 wiwbleo kernel: 294899 pages of HIGHMEM Apr 30 15:46:53 wiwbleo kernel: 10414 reserved pages Apr 30 15:46:53 wiwbleo kernel: 388858 pages shared Apr 30 15:46:53 wiwbleo kernel: 80 pages swap cached Apr 30 15:46:53 wiwbleo kernel: Out of Memory: Killed process 32399 (httpd). ... Apr 30 15:52:52 wiwbleo kernel: Mem-info: Apr 30 15:52:52 wiwbleo kernel: Zone:DMA freepages: 2880 min: 0 low: 0 high: 0 Apr 30 15:52:52 wiwbleo kernel: Zone:Normal freepages: 1276 min: 1278 low: 4543 high: 6303 Apr 30 15:52:52 wiwbleo kernel: Zone:HighMem freepages: 254 min: 255 low: 4606 high: 6909 Apr 30 15:52:52 wiwbleo kernel: Free pages: 4410 ( 254 HighMem) Apr 30 15:52:52 wiwbleo kernel: ( Active: 478356/738, inactive_laundry: 0, inactive_clean: 0, free: 4410 ) Apr 30 15:52:52 wiwbleo kernel: aa:0 ac:0 id:0 il:0 ic:0 fr:2880 Apr 30 15:52:52 wiwbleo kernel: aa:196622 ac:1948 id:639 il:0 ic:0 fr:1276 Apr 30 15:52:52 wiwbleo kernel: aa:276938 ac:2740 id:209 il:0 ic:0 fr:254 Apr 30 15:52:52 wiwbleo kernel: 0*4kB 0*8kB 2*16kB 3*32kB 4*64kB 1*128kB 1*256kB 1*512kB 0*1024kB 1*2048kB 2*4096kB = 11520kB) Apr 30 15:52:52 wiwbleo kernel: 1*4kB 1*8kB 2*16kB 6*32kB 0*64kB 12*128kB 7*256kB 1*512kB 1*1024kB 0*2048kB 0*4096kB = 5100kB) Apr 30 15:52:52 wiwbleo kernel: 0*4kB 5*8kB 7*16kB 1*32kB 3*64kB 1*128kB 0*256kB 1*512kB 0*1024kB 0*2048kB 0*4096kB = 1016kB) Apr 30 15:52:52 wiwbleo kernel: Swap cache: add 2324655, delete 2324567, find 5546679/5828169, race 0+134 Apr 30 15:52:52 wiwbleo kernel: 6776 pages of slabcache Apr 30 15:52:52 wiwbleo kernel: 2304 pages of kernel stacks Apr 30 15:52:52 wiwbleo kernel: 0 lowmem pagetables, 13979 highmem pagetables Apr 30 15:52:52 wiwbleo kernel: 32 bounce buffer pages, 32 are on the emergency list Apr 30 15:52:52 wiwbleo kernel: Free swap: 0kB Apr 30 15:52:52 wiwbleo kernel: 524275 pages of RAM Apr 30 15:52:52 wiwbleo kernel: 294899 pages of HIGHMEM Apr 30 15:52:52 wiwbleo kernel: 10414 reserved pages Apr 30 15:52:52 wiwbleo kernel: 394816 pages shared Apr 30 15:52:52 wiwbleo kernel: 110 pages swap cached Apr 30 15:52:52 wiwbleo kernel: Out of Memory: Killed process 1695 (hpsmhd). Andy Bach Systems Mangler Internet: andy_bach@wiwb.uscourts.gov VOICE: (608) 261-5738 FAX 264-5932 "So it goes ...." Kurt Vonnegut, Jr. (November 11, 1922 ? April 11, 2007) From tcallawa at redhat.com Mon May 7 17:13:17 2007 From: tcallawa at redhat.com (Tom "spot" Callaway) Date: Mon May 7 16:13:51 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Redhat swap memory crash In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1178572397.3661.43.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Mon, 2007-05-07 at 15:44 -0500, Andy_Bach@wiwb.uscourts.gov wrote: > Hey, > > Sorry, for the logs but - we've got > Linux version 2.4.21-40.ELsmp (bhcompile@hs20-bc1-7.build.redhat.com) (gcc > version 3.2.3 20030502 (Red Hat Linux 3.2.3-54)) Well, I'm not Red Hat support, but that is RHEL 3, and you should have support on it from Red Hat (or whichever vendor sold it to you). You might consider opening a ticket with either Red Hat or the reseller (e.g. IBM, Dell, HP, etc). This is why your box is crying: Apr 30 15:45:06 wiwbleo kernel: Out of Memory: Killed process 23209 (hpsmhd). The hpsmhd process is using up all the memory on your system. Sadly, I recognize that thing. Its part of the HP Systems Insight Manager. If you're running an old version, it does very very bad things to your system, then either reboots it or hardlocks it. If you must use the HPSIM, make sure you have the ABSOLUTE latest version of it: http://h18013.www1.hp.com/products/servers/management/hpsim/dl_linux.html At some point, they converted it from using kernel modules to userspace-only code, and most of the RHEL 3 crashes just stopped happening. Hope that helps, ~spot From aclose at gmail.com Tue May 8 10:11:08 2007 From: aclose at gmail.com (Andrew Close) Date: Tue May 8 09:11:14 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Semi-OT: Code Reviews... Message-ID: i know this isn't specifically Linux related, but quite a few of you are developers :) do any of you have recommendations for peer code review tools? tools that allow for diff'ing and adding annotations that can be retrieved in the future for comparison? we've looked at a couple: CodeStriker, Crucible (awesome), Jupiter, Smart Bear's Code Reviewer & Code Collaborator... Crucible would be my top pick even if i had to buy it for the company :), but it currently only works with SVN and CVS. and it looks like we'll be migrating from VSS to ClearCase instead of SVN. :( CodeStriker would be our second choice, but had some serious limitations mainly dealing with how a review was set up and the fact that you could only create a review for one file at a time. any other tools out there that you use or would recommend? thanks for any help/suggestions andy From chris.mcavoy at gmail.com Tue May 8 10:18:35 2007 From: chris.mcavoy at gmail.com (Chris McAvoy) Date: Tue May 8 09:18:38 2007 Subject: [LUNI] ChiPy meeting Thursday May 10, 7pm Message-ID: <3096c19d0705080718g9657ae2h52f31101cf51f2ad@mail.gmail.com> Chicago Python User Group ========================= Come join us for our best meeting ever! Topics ------ Lightning talks! setuptools, zvm, bayesian stuff, all kinds of great mini-talks with a Python twist, bring yours! Location -------- Skinnycorp (http://skinnycorp.com) 4043 N. Ravenswood Ave. Chicago Suite 106 About ChiPy ----------- ChiPy is a group of Chicago Python Programmers, l33t, and n00bs. Meetings are held monthly at various locations around Chicago. Also, ChiPy is a proud sponsor of many Open Source and Educational efforts in Chicago. Stay tuned to the mailing list for more info. ChiPy website: ChiPy Mailing List: Python website: From brian at planetshwoop.com Thu May 10 00:57:55 2007 From: brian at planetshwoop.com (Brian Sobolak) Date: Wed May 9 23:59:45 2007 Subject: [LUNI] ANN: UFO Chicago Meets This Thursday, 8pm at 4229 W Irving Park Rd Message-ID: <4642A653.8020706@planetshwoop.com> We are a group of free operating system and open source enthusiasts who meet to discuss Linux and its accessories. For directions, details, etc, check out our ascii-licious website: http://ufo.chicago.il.us/ This month, I promise to sing the praises of Damn Small Linux and provide an update on the Comcast/Speakeasy/RCN saga. brian -- Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Announcements Mailing List http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni-announce From me at heyjay.com Sun May 13 10:29:31 2007 From: me at heyjay.com (Jay Strauss) Date: Sun May 13 09:29:37 2007 Subject: [LUNI] using laptop monitor for desktop monitor Message-ID: Hi, Is there any way to use a laptop's monitor as the monitor for my desktop PC? That is, I need to build a new server, I don't want to lug my 19 CRT monitor out of the garage just to build the server (which will run headless, when setup). PS using my laptops keyboard would be nice too. Thanks Jay From jkaplenk at aol.com Sun May 13 12:24:16 2007 From: jkaplenk at aol.com (jkaplenk@aol.com) Date: Sun May 13 10:24:38 2007 Subject: [LUNI] using laptop monitor for desktop monitor In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8C96389E7323113-CEC-144A9@WEBMAIL-RB11.sysops.aol.com> If you can find some an older IBM thinkpad with docking station, some of the docking stations had a DB15 video signal input. You could plug another PC into it and use it as a monitor. I can't tell you which models for sure, but look for the 100 -150 Mhz laptops. This would be a great use for one of them -- little processor overhead. Joe Kaplenk -----Original Message----- From: me@heyjay.com To: luni@luni.org Sent: Sun, 13 May 2007 9:29 AM Subject: [LUNI] using laptop monitor for desktop monitor Hi, Is there any way to use a laptop's monitor as the monitor for my desktop PC? That is, I need to build a new server, I don't want to lug my 19 CRT monitor out of the garage just to build the server (which will run headless, when setup). PS using my laptops keyboard would be nice too. Thanks Jay -- Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. From mscott at pyewacket.org Sun May 13 09:40:50 2007 From: mscott at pyewacket.org (Mike Scott) Date: Sun May 13 10:40:54 2007 Subject: [LUNI] using laptop monitor for desktop monitor Message-ID: <20070513084050.6095274834031e3691077dcdffae0724.4ebeb64422.wbe@email.secureserver.net> Can the server BIOS be configured to use a serial port for I/O? Then you could hook the laptop to the server with a null-modem cable and just run a terminal emulator program on the laptop. - Mike Scott > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: [LUNI] using laptop monitor for desktop monitor > From: "Jay Strauss" > Date: Sun, May 13, 2007 9:29 am > To: "Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion" > > > Hi, > > Is there any way to use a laptop's monitor as the monitor for my > desktop PC? That is, I need to build a new server, I don't want to > lug my 19 CRT monitor out of the garage just to build the server > (which will run headless, when setup). > > PS using my laptops keyboard would be nice too. > > Thanks > Jay > -- > Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni From me at heyjay.com Sun May 13 11:55:01 2007 From: me at heyjay.com (Jay Strauss) Date: Sun May 13 10:55:04 2007 Subject: [LUNI] using laptop monitor for desktop monitor In-Reply-To: <20070513084050.6095274834031e3691077dcdffae0724.4ebeb64422.wbe@email.secureserver.net> References: <20070513084050.6095274834031e3691077dcdffae0724.4ebeb64422.wbe@email.secureserver.net> Message-ID: On 5/13/07, Mike Scott wrote: > Can the server BIOS be configured to use a serial port for I/O? > Then you could hook the laptop to the server with a null-modem cable and > just run a terminal emulator program on the laptop. > > - Mike Scott I don't know about the BIOS. I'll have to look. I don't have a null-modem cable either. I'm guessing I'll have to attach it to the CRT regardless From me at heyjay.com Sun May 13 11:56:18 2007 From: me at heyjay.com (Jay Strauss) Date: Sun May 13 10:56:21 2007 Subject: [LUNI] using laptop monitor for desktop monitor In-Reply-To: <8C96389E7323113-CEC-144A9@WEBMAIL-RB11.sysops.aol.com> References: <8C96389E7323113-CEC-144A9@WEBMAIL-RB11.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: On 5/13/07, jkaplenk@aol.com wrote: > If you can find some an older IBM thinkpad with docking station, some of the docking stations had a DB15 video signal input. You could plug another PC into it and use it as a monitor. I can't tell you which models for sure, but look for the 100 -150 Mhz laptops. This would be a great use for one of them -- little processor overhead. > > Joe Kaplenk I have a think pad but no docking station. I'll probably just use the old CRT. Thanks Jay From david at midrange.com Sun May 13 12:04:00 2007 From: david at midrange.com (David Gibbs) Date: Sun May 13 12:05:06 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Re: using laptop monitor for desktop monitor In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Jay Strauss wrote: > Is there any way to use a laptop's monitor as the monitor for my > desktop PC? That is, I need to build a new server, I don't want to > lug my 19 CRT monitor out of the garage just to build the server > (which will run headless, when setup). Which distro? I think some distros have the ability to be installed remotely using VNC. I know you can use VNC to install Fedora (http://docs.fedoraproject.org/fedora-install-guide-en/fc5/sn-remoteaccess-installation.html). david From mark at msbrepairs.com Sun May 13 12:16:59 2007 From: mark at msbrepairs.com (mark@msbrepairs.com) Date: Sun May 13 13:17:06 2007 Subject: [LUNI] using laptop monitor for desktop monitor In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1179080219.4647561be6d91@webmail.msbrepairs.com> Does the graphics card have a tv output ? If so, you might be about to output to a video camera and capture to the laptop. (assuming you have the hardware) or .. I have plenty of brand new 14in crt monitors I am never going to need, you are welcome to one. also .. (probably a silly suggestion, but can't you take the desktop to the garage either ?) From skie at dragonsvalley.com Mon May 14 10:28:11 2007 From: skie at dragonsvalley.com (Branko Kotur) Date: Mon May 14 09:25:18 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Lynx/Links and online speed tests Message-ID: <200705140928.11636.skie@dragonsvalley.com> Does anyone know of an online speed test that would work with lynx or links? All of the ones that I know of require either flash or java. I'd like to be able to try these on a couple of remote servers that don't even have X installed. From luni at pyewacket.org Mon May 14 08:34:12 2007 From: luni at pyewacket.org (Mike Scott) Date: Mon May 14 09:34:16 2007 Subject: [LUNI] using laptop monitor for desktop monitor Message-ID: <20070514073412.6095274834031e3691077dcdffae0724.8f79234911.wbe@email.secureserver.net> Pretty easy to RYO if you are moderately handy with a soldering iron. You can also get the cable and null-modem adapter at Radio Shack. - Mike Scott > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: [LUNI] using laptop monitor for desktop monitor > From: "Jay Strauss" > Date: Sun, May 13, 2007 10:55 am > To: "Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion" > > > On 5/13/07, Mike Scott wrote: > > Can the server BIOS be configured to use a serial port for I/O? > > Then you could hook the laptop to the server with a null-modem cable > and > > just run a terminal emulator program on the laptop. > > > > - Mike Scott > > I don't know about the BIOS. I'll have to look. I don't have a > null-modem cable either. I'm guessing I'll have to attach it to the > CRT regardless > -- > Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni From kr at cybsft.com Mon May 14 11:12:03 2007 From: kr at cybsft.com (K.R. Foley) Date: Mon May 14 10:18:46 2007 Subject: [LUNI] using laptop monitor for desktop monitor In-Reply-To: <20070514073412.6095274834031e3691077dcdffae0724.8f79234911.wbe@email.secureserver.net> References: <20070514073412.6095274834031e3691077dcdffae0724.8f79234911.wbe@email.secureserver.net> Message-ID: <46487C43.3010809@cybsft.com> Mike Scott wrote: > Pretty easy to RYO if you are moderately handy with a soldering iron. > You can also get the cable and null-modem adapter at Radio Shack. > > - Mike Scott > > >> -------- Original Message -------- >> Subject: Re: [LUNI] using laptop monitor for desktop monitor >> From: "Jay Strauss" >> Date: Sun, May 13, 2007 10:55 am >> To: "Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion" >> >> >> On 5/13/07, Mike Scott wrote: >>> Can the server BIOS be configured to use a serial port for I/O? >>> Then you could hook the laptop to the server with a null-modem cable >> and >>> just run a terminal emulator program on the laptop. >>> >>> - Mike Scott >> I don't know about the BIOS. I'll have to look. I don't have a >> null-modem cable either. I'm guessing I'll have to attach it to the >> CRT regardless >> -- >> Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion >> http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni > As for using the serial port for I/O: If you add something like console=ttyS0,38400 console=tty0 to the kernel boot parameters you can enable a serial console. Of course the options above are for COM1. COM2 would be ttyS1 and tty1. -- kr From luni at pyewacket.org Mon May 14 14:09:00 2007 From: luni at pyewacket.org (Mike Scott) Date: Mon May 14 15:09:04 2007 Subject: [LUNI] using laptop monitor for desktop monitor Message-ID: <20070514130900.6095274834031e3691077dcdffae0724.bf202e39c9.wbe@email.secureserver.net> I'll file that tip for future reference, thanks. The problem as I see it would be the initial installation. Maybe you could add the parameter to the bootable installation medium. I was thinking how some servers are designed to run headless and have a way to pipe low-level BIOS I/O to the serial port (INT10/16). - Mike Scott > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: [LUNI] using laptop monitor for desktop monitor > From: "K.R. Foley" > Date: Mon, May 14, 2007 10:12 am > To: Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > > > As for using the serial port for I/O: If you add something like > console=ttyS0,38400 console=tty0 to the kernel boot parameters you can > enable a serial console. Of course the options above are for COM1. COM2 > would be ttyS1 and tty1. > > -- > kr From seva at sevatech.com Mon May 14 18:02:52 2007 From: seva at sevatech.com (Seva Epsteyn) Date: Mon May 14 17:02:53 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Lynx/Links and online speed tests In-Reply-To: <200705140928.11636.skie@dragonsvalley.com> References: <200705140928.11636.skie@dragonsvalley.com> Message-ID: Throw a 100Mb file somewhere and time the download with wget. On Mon, 14 May 2007, Branko Kotur wrote: > Does anyone know of an online speed test that would work with lynx or links? > All of the ones that I know of require either flash or java. I'd like to be > able to try these on a couple of remote servers that don't even have X > installed. > From skie at dragonsvalley.com Mon May 14 18:25:08 2007 From: skie at dragonsvalley.com (Branko Kotur) Date: Mon May 14 17:22:10 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Lynx/Links and online speed tests In-Reply-To: References: <200705140928.11636.skie@dragonsvalley.com> Message-ID: <200705141725.08494.skie@dragonsvalley.com> On Monday 14 May 2007 5:02 pm, Seva Epsteyn wrote: > Throw a 100Mb file somewhere and time the download with wget. There's always that, but I was hoping for something standardized that I could compare with others that mainly use Windows. (Yes, I'm looking for bragging rights.) From ryan.aviles at gmail.com Wed May 16 07:28:10 2007 From: ryan.aviles at gmail.com (Ryan Aviles) Date: Wed May 16 06:28:16 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Lynx/Links and online speed tests In-Reply-To: <200705141725.08494.skie@dragonsvalley.com> References: <200705140928.11636.skie@dragonsvalley.com> <200705141725.08494.skie@dragonsvalley.com> Message-ID: try cygwin+wget, although doing a test like that would also depend on harddrive speed on both systems. On 5/14/07, Branko Kotur wrote: > > On Monday 14 May 2007 5:02 pm, Seva Epsteyn wrote: > > Throw a 100Mb file somewhere and time the download with wget. > > There's always that, but I was hoping for something standardized that I > could > compare with others that mainly use Windows. (Yes, I'm looking for > bragging > rights.) > -- > Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni > From me at heyjay.com Wed May 16 22:57:55 2007 From: me at heyjay.com (Jay Strauss) Date: Wed May 16 21:57:59 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Resizing my LVM Message-ID: Hi, Before I do something crazy and destroy my LVM. I want to make sure I'm doing this correct. I've run out of space and need to increase my /home filesystem which sits upon an LVM iron:~# df -h Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/md0 1.8G 116M 1.6G 7% / tmpfs 62M 4.0K 62M 1% /dev/shm /dev/mapper/vg1-home 50G 30G 18G 63% /home /dev/mapper/vg1-tmp 960M 8.1M 901M 1% /tmp /dev/mapper/vg1-usr 3.0G 795M 2.1G 28% /usr /dev/mapper/vg1-var 3.0G 550M 2.3G 20% /var iron:~# vgdisplay -s "vg1" 109.93 GB [58.00 GB used / 51.93 GB free] iron:~# cat /etc/fstab # /etc/fstab: static file system information. # # proc /proc proc defaults 0 0 /dev/md0 / ext3 defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1 /dev/mapper/vg1-home /home ext3 defaults 0 2 /dev/mapper/vg1-tmp /tmp ext3 defaults 0 2 /dev/mapper/vg1-usr /usr ext3 defaults 0 2 /dev/mapper/vg1-var /var ext3 defaults 0 2 /dev/mapper/vg1-swap none swap sw 0 0 /dev/hdd /media/cdrom0 iso9660 ro,user,noauto 0 0 So to do this I'd go: lvextend -L+10G /dev/mapper/vg1-home umount /dev/mapper/vg1-home resize2fs /dev/mapper/vg1-home mount /home It seems simple enough. I must be missing something :) Is the above correct? Thanks Jay From kgarner at kgarner.com Thu May 17 00:38:57 2007 From: kgarner at kgarner.com (Keith T. Garner) Date: Wed May 16 22:38:54 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Resizing my LVM In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <464BCE51.8000302@kgarner.com> On 5/16/07 10:57 PM, Jay Strauss wrote: > So to do this I'd go: > lvextend -L+10G /dev/mapper/vg1-home > umount /dev/mapper/vg1-home > resize2fs /dev/mapper/vg1-home > mount /home > > It seems simple enough. I must be missing something :) > > Is the above correct? That's pretty much it, but you probably want to use the non-mapper devs of /dev/vg1/home I'm not sure how the LVM tools would like the raw device. It'll probably work, as the entries in /dev/vg1 are links off to /dev/mapper, but it never hurts. Also, you didn't mention the distribution or kernel you're on, but if its a new enough kernel and new enough e2fsprogs, you can do the resizing without unmounting the filesystem. Keith -- Keith T. Garner kgarner@kgarner.com "Make no little plans; they have no magic to stir men's blood." - Daniel H. Burnham From maney at two14.net Thu May 17 00:24:36 2007 From: maney at two14.net (Martin Maney) Date: Wed May 16 23:24:47 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Resizing my LVM In-Reply-To: <464BCE51.8000302@kgarner.com> References: <464BCE51.8000302@kgarner.com> Message-ID: <20070517042436.GB11402@furrr.two14.net> On Wed, May 16, 2007 at 11:38:57PM -0400, Keith T. Garner wrote: > Also, you didn't mention the distribution or kernel you're on, but if its a > new enough kernel and new enough e2fsprogs, you can do the resizing without > unmounting the filesystem. Contrariwise, if you do need to run the filesystem resize offline, you might encounter some difficulty unmounting /home if you get root by su[do] from a normal login. Now, where's that more tea we were promised? -- Neither can his mind be in tune, whose words do jarre, nor his reason in frame, whose sentence is preposterous. -- Ben Jonson From me at heyjay.com Thu May 17 08:29:06 2007 From: me at heyjay.com (Jay Strauss) Date: Thu May 17 07:29:11 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Resizing my LVM In-Reply-To: <464BCE51.8000302@kgarner.com> References: <464BCE51.8000302@kgarner.com> Message-ID: > That's pretty much it, but you probably want to use the non-mapper devs of > /dev/vg1/home I'm not sure how the LVM tools would like the raw device. > It'll probably work, as the entries in /dev/vg1 are links off to > /dev/mapper, but it never hurts. > > Also, you didn't mention the distribution or kernel you're on, but if its a > new enough kernel and new enough e2fsprogs, you can do the resizing without > unmounting the filesystem. > > Keith Thanks Keith, below is some info you might find enlightening iron:~# cat /proc/version Linux version 2.6.8-2-686 (horms@tabatha.lab.ultramonkey.org) (gcc version 3.3.5 (Debian 1:3.3.5-13)) #1 Tue Aug 16 13:22:48 UTC 2005 iron:~# which e2fsprogs iron:~# cat /etc/issue Debian GNU/Linux 3.1 \n \l I don't have e2fsprogs on my system. Although aptitude show e2fsprogs shows: >>> iron:~# aptitude show e2fsprogs Package: e2fsprogs Essential: yes State: installed Automatically installed: no Version: 1.37-2sarge1 Priority: required Section: base Maintainer: Theodore Y. Ts'o Uncompressed Size: 1401k PreDepends: e2fslibs (= 1.37-2sarge1), libblkid1 (>= 1.34-1), libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-21), libcomerr2 (>= 1.34-1), libss2 (>= 1.34-1), libuuid1 (>= 1.34-1) Suggests: gpart, parted, e2fsck-static Conflicts: dump (< 0.4b4-4), quota (< 1.55-8.1), initscripts (< 2.85-4), sysvinit (< 2.85-4) Replaces: hurd (<= 20040301-1) Description: ext2 file system utilities and libraries EXT2 stands for "Extended Filesystem", version 2. It's the main filesystem type used for hard disks on Debian and other Linux systems. This package contains programs for creating, checking, and maintaining EXT2 filesystems, and the generic `fsck' wrapper. <<< But it doesn't install either: iron:~# e2fsprogs -bash: e2fsprogs: command not found iron:~# aptitude install e2fsprogs Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree Reading extended state information Initializing package states... Done Reading task descriptions... Done The following packages have been kept back: apt-proxy bind9-host dnsutils file gnupg gzip info libc6 libc6-dev libdevmapper1.01 libdns16 libgnutls11 libisc7 libkrb53 liblwres1 libmagic1 libssl0.9.7 locales man-db python2.3 samba samba-common ssh swat tar texinfo 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 26 not upgraded. Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 0B will be used. Writing extended state information... Done Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree Reading extended state information Initializing package states... Done Reading task descriptions... Done From me at heyjay.com Thu May 17 08:30:05 2007 From: me at heyjay.com (Jay Strauss) Date: Thu May 17 07:30:07 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Resizing my LVM In-Reply-To: <20070517042436.GB11402@furrr.two14.net> References: <464BCE51.8000302@kgarner.com> <20070517042436.GB11402@furrr.two14.net> Message-ID: On 5/16/07, Martin Maney wrote: > On Wed, May 16, 2007 at 11:38:57PM -0400, Keith T. Garner wrote: > > Also, you didn't mention the distribution or kernel you're on, but if its a > > new enough kernel and new enough e2fsprogs, you can do the resizing without > > unmounting the filesystem. > > Contrariwise, if you do need to run the filesystem resize offline, you > might encounter some difficulty unmounting /home if you get root by > su[do] from a normal login. Now, where's that more tea we were > promised? So you are saying, ssh directly as root to run this series of commands? Thanks Jay From mike.fried at gmail.com Thu May 17 11:32:34 2007 From: mike.fried at gmail.com (Mike Fried) Date: Thu May 17 11:59:15 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Computer Donations Message-ID: I know company wanting to donate some older machines to an NPO if they can. Can anyone tell me what the options are? Also, what is the minimum machine worth redeploying these days? From ramin-list at badapple.net Thu May 17 11:13:20 2007 From: ramin-list at badapple.net (Ramin K) Date: Thu May 17 12:38:02 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Computer Donations In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <464C8D30.9090503@badapple.net> Mike Fried wrote: > I know company wanting to donate some older machines to an > NPO if they can. Can anyone tell me what the options are? > > Also, what is the minimum machine worth redeploying these days? For office work? Video editing? Protein folding simulations? :-) P4 2.8, 1GB, 80GB, is standard here at Yahoo. Ramin From aclose at gmail.com Thu May 17 13:57:45 2007 From: aclose at gmail.com (Andrew Close) Date: Thu May 17 12:57:47 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Computer Donations In-Reply-To: <464C8D30.9090503@badapple.net> References: <464C8D30.9090503@badapple.net> Message-ID: On 5/17/07, Ramin K wrote: > Mike Fried wrote: > > I know company wanting to donate some older machines to an > > NPO if they can. Can anyone tell me what the options are? > > > > Also, what is the minimum machine worth redeploying these days? > > For office work? Video editing? Protein folding simulations? :-) > > P4 2.8, 1GB, 80GB, is standard here at Yahoo. we also have a couple (3, maybe 4) machines that we'd be interested in donating. but they are pretty underpowered. one is a dual processor Pentium 166, one is a PII, not sure what the others are... are they worth donating or are they junk? From luni at pyewacket.org Thu May 17 12:33:09 2007 From: luni at pyewacket.org (Mike Scott) Date: Thu May 17 13:33:11 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Computer Donations Message-ID: <20070517113308.6095274834031e3691077dcdffae0724.29fe525e0c.wbe@email.secureserver.net> I don't know what NPOs will take as some tend to be less discriminating, but I have been working with Midwest Recycling and they will refurb working systems for resale. Pretty much a break-even, but you don't have to pay for disposal. The rep there told me they are pretty much only interested in PIII class systems and above. Anything older is not worth it. - Mike Scott > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: [LUNI] Computer Donations > From: "Andrew Close" > Date: Thu, May 17, 2007 12:57 pm > To: "Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion" > > > On 5/17/07, Ramin K wrote: > > Mike Fried wrote: > > > I know company wanting to donate some older machines to an > > > NPO if they can. Can anyone tell me what the options are? > > > > > > Also, what is the minimum machine worth redeploying these days? > > > > For office work? Video editing? Protein folding simulations? :-) > > > > P4 2.8, 1GB, 80GB, is standard here at Yahoo. > > we also have a couple (3, maybe 4) machines that we'd be interested in > donating. but they are pretty underpowered. one is a dual processor > Pentium 166, one is a PII, not sure what the others are... > are they worth donating or are they junk? > -- > Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni From Fred.Svaldi at med.navy.mil Thu May 17 14:41:57 2007 From: Fred.Svaldi at med.navy.mil (Svaldi, Fred E) Date: Thu May 17 13:42:09 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Computer Donations References: <20070517113308.6095274834031e3691077dcdffae0724.29fe525e0c.wbe@email.secureserver.net> Message-ID: <7E58F61FEEDFC74BA46565C6880CBDC3EF6B99@NHGL-EX-VS.nmed.ds.med.navy.mil> Anyone, I have a 15-inch CRT monitor. Does anyone think it has any donation value, or should I scrap it? Goodwill wouldn't take it. I was told I could throw it out with the regular trash. -----Original Message----- From: luni-bounces@luni.org [mailto:luni-bounces@luni.org] On Behalf Of Mike Scott Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 1:33 PM To: Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion Subject: RE: [LUNI] Computer Donations I don't know what NPOs will take as some tend to be less discriminating, but I have been working with Midwest Recycling and they will refurb working systems for resale. Pretty much a break-even, but you don't have to pay for disposal. The rep there told me they are pretty much only interested in PIII class systems and above. Anything older is not worth it. - Mike Scott > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: [LUNI] Computer Donations > From: "Andrew Close" > Date: Thu, May 17, 2007 12:57 pm > To: "Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion" > > > On 5/17/07, Ramin K wrote: > > Mike Fried wrote: > > > I know company wanting to donate some older machines to an > > > NPO if they can. Can anyone tell me what the options are? > > > > > > Also, what is the minimum machine worth redeploying these days? > > > > For office work? Video editing? Protein folding simulations? :-) > > > > P4 2.8, 1GB, 80GB, is standard here at Yahoo. > > we also have a couple (3, maybe 4) machines that we'd be interested in > donating. but they are pretty underpowered. one is a dual processor > Pentium 166, one is a PII, not sure what the others are... > are they worth donating or are they junk? > -- > Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni -- Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature Size: 4945 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://luni.org/pipermail/luni/attachments/20070517/325d20b4/smime.bin From maney at two14.net Thu May 17 15:20:58 2007 From: maney at two14.net (Martin Maney) Date: Thu May 17 14:21:07 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Resizing my LVM In-Reply-To: References: <464BCE51.8000302@kgarner.com> <20070517042436.GB11402@furrr.two14.net> Message-ID: <20070517192058.GA13740@furrr.two14.net> On Thu, May 17, 2007 at 07:30:05AM -0500, Jay Strauss wrote: > So you are saying, ssh directly as root to run this series of commands? If you have to umount, yeah. -- If the best we can do is make technology as dangerous, non-robust, capricious, arcane, alienating, marginal, and costly as "magic", then we have really crappy technology. -- goliard From maney at two14.net Thu May 17 15:27:37 2007 From: maney at two14.net (Martin Maney) Date: Thu May 17 14:27:44 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Computer Donations In-Reply-To: <7E58F61FEEDFC74BA46565C6880CBDC3EF6B99@NHGL-EX-VS.nmed.ds.med.navy.mil> References: <20070517113308.6095274834031e3691077dcdffae0724.29fe525e0c.wbe@email.secureserver.net> <7E58F61FEEDFC74BA46565C6880CBDC3EF6B99@NHGL-EX-VS.nmed.ds.med.navy.mil> Message-ID: <20070517192737.GB13740@furrr.two14.net> On Thu, May 17, 2007 at 01:41:57PM -0500, Svaldi, Fred E wrote: > I have a 15-inch CRT monitor. Does anyone think it has any donation value, > or should I scrap it? If you can find someone who wants it, I would suggest you not worry about whether it's worth ten cetns or twenty cents. :-/ > Goodwill wouldn't take it. I was told I could throw it out with the regular > trash. In the sense that you might get away with it, I suppose that could be said to be true. Please don't, though: monitors are full of fairly hazardous materials that should be properly recycled. The annual splurge of freecycling events was last month, but there are some from time to time yet if you look around. -- Allen Funt was one of the great psychologists of the twentieth century. His informal experiments and demonstrations on "Candid Camera" showed us as much about human psychology and its surprising limitations as the work of any academic psychologist. -- Daniel Dennett From ramin-list at badapple.net Thu May 17 13:28:27 2007 From: ramin-list at badapple.net (Ramin K) Date: Thu May 17 14:28:30 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Computer Donations In-Reply-To: <7E58F61FEEDFC74BA46565C6880CBDC3EF6B99@NHGL-EX-VS.nmed.ds.med.navy.mil> References: <20070517113308.6095274834031e3691077dcdffae0724.29fe525e0c.wbe@email.secureserver.net> <7E58F61FEEDFC74BA46565C6880CBDC3EF6B99@NHGL-EX-VS.nmed.ds.med.navy.mil> Message-ID: <464CACDB.9040604@badapple.net> Svaldi, Fred E wrote: > Anyone, > > I have a 15-inch CRT monitor. Does anyone think it has any donation value, > or should I scrap it? > > Goodwill wouldn't take it. I was told I could throw it out with the regular > trash. You can buy used 19" CRTs on craigslist for $20 or less. Trash the 15". From kgarner at kgarner.com Thu May 17 16:07:30 2007 From: kgarner at kgarner.com (Keith T. Garner) Date: Thu May 17 15:07:41 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Search every part of the e-mail? Message-ID: <1179428854.9181F@fc6.dngr.org> So, I have a problem where I need to look at every e-mail from the past 2 years and find certain search terms. This inlcudes the contents of all attachments as well. The mail is stored on linux in Maildor format and is also accessable via imap. I figured I'd ask here to see if anyone has any brilliant ideas that will save me time. I figured I'd write a script to visit every e-mail box then apply the search terms and time search. The problem, though, is that this won't search the attachments. So, I'm thinking I'll have to write another search to find everything that has an attachment and then write a potential buttload of code that knows how to (shell out to) examine each type of attachment I come across. As a programmer, my first thought is 'write something' but maybe there is a better way. Keith -- Keith T. Garner kgarner@kgarner.com From luni at pyewacket.org Thu May 17 14:44:10 2007 From: luni at pyewacket.org (Mike Scott) Date: Thu May 17 15:44:13 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Computer Donations Message-ID: <20070517134410.6095274834031e3691077dcdffae0724.60d4581b6e.wbe@email.secureserver.net> About the only monitors of interest are 17" with good picture and room left on the brightness knob. Technically, you aren't supposed to throw this stuff in the trash (toxic metals and such end up i landfills), but if the trash man takes it... - Mike Scott > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: RE: [LUNI] Computer Donations > From: "Svaldi, Fred E" > Date: Thu, May 17, 2007 1:41 pm > To: "Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion" > > > Anyone, > > > > I have a 15-inch CRT monitor. Does anyone think it has any donation > value, > or should I scrap it? > > > > Goodwill wouldn't take it. I was told I could throw it out with the > regular > trash. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: luni-bounces@luni.org [mailto:luni-bounces@luni.org] On Behalf > Of Mike > Scott > Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 1:33 PM > To: Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > Subject: RE: [LUNI] Computer Donations > > > > I don't know what NPOs will take as some tend to be less discriminating, > > but I have been working with Midwest Recycling and they will refurb > > working systems for resale. Pretty much a break-even, but you don't > > have to pay for disposal. The rep there told me they are pretty much > > only interested in PIII class systems and above. > > Anything older is not worth it. > > > > - Mike Scott > > > > > > > -------- Original Message -------- > > > Subject: Re: [LUNI] Computer Donations > > > From: "Andrew Close" > > > Date: Thu, May 17, 2007 12:57 pm > > > To: "Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion" > > > > > > > > > On 5/17/07, Ramin K wrote: > > > > Mike Fried wrote: > > > > > I know company wanting to donate some older machines to an > > > > > NPO if they can. Can anyone tell me what the options are? > > > > > > > > > > Also, what is the minimum machine worth redeploying these days? > > > > > > > > For office work? Video editing? Protein folding simulations? :-) > > > > > > > > P4 2.8, 1GB, 80GB, is standard here at Yahoo. > > > > > > we also have a couple (3, maybe 4) machines that we'd be interested in > > > donating. but they are pretty underpowered. one is a dual processor > > > Pentium 166, one is a PII, not sure what the others are... > > > are they worth donating or are they junk? > > > -- > > > Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > > > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni > > > > -- > > Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni
-- > Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni From mark at msbrepairs.com Thu May 17 17:15:34 2007 From: mark at msbrepairs.com (Mark Stuart Burge) Date: Thu May 17 16:13:28 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Computer Donations In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <464CC5F6.8090002@msbrepairs.com> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://luni.org/pipermail/luni/attachments/20070517/950552ae/attachment.htm From Penguin at waxmoustache.com Fri May 18 02:51:35 2007 From: Penguin at waxmoustache.com (James Velguth) Date: Fri May 18 01:46:15 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Computer Donations In-Reply-To: References: <464C8D30.9090503@badapple.net> Message-ID: <464D4CF7.9080104@WaxMoustache.com> I am still using a P2 and it is quality and very dependable. It runs both my Linux and 'doz very well. I wouldn't mind having another so I could run both at the same time or try networking them under linux. There is somebody who would like the P2. Andrew Close wrote: > On 5/17/07, Ramin K wrote: > >> Mike Fried wrote: >> > I know company wanting to donate some older machines to an >> > NPO if they can. Can anyone tell me what the options are? >> > >> > Also, what is the minimum machine worth redeploying these days? >> >> For office work? Video editing? Protein folding simulations? :-) >> >> P4 2.8, 1GB, 80GB, is standard here at Yahoo. > > > we also have a couple (3, maybe 4) machines that we'd be interested in > donating. but they are pretty underpowered. one is a dual processor > Pentium 166, one is a PII, not sure what the others are... > are they worth donating or are they junk? From dbt at meat.net Fri May 18 09:59:55 2007 From: dbt at meat.net (David Terrell) Date: Fri May 18 09:00:01 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Resizing my LVM In-Reply-To: <20070517042436.GB11402@furrr.two14.net> References: <464BCE51.8000302@kgarner.com> <20070517042436.GB11402@furrr.two14.net> Message-ID: <20070518135955.GF32536@sphinx.chicagopeoplez.org> On Wed, May 16, 2007 at 11:24:36PM -0500, Martin Maney wrote: > On Wed, May 16, 2007 at 11:38:57PM -0400, Keith T. Garner wrote: > > Also, you didn't mention the distribution or kernel you're on, but if its a > > new enough kernel and new enough e2fsprogs, you can do the resizing without > > unmounting the filesystem. > > Contrariwise, if you do need to run the filesystem resize offline, you > might encounter some difficulty unmounting /home if you get root by > su[do] from a normal login. > promised? cd / ; sudo umount /home Should work just fine. Now, umounting /var via sudo could cause problems, especially if you try to re-mount with sudo and /var/run/sudo is gone. :) -- David Terrell dbt@meat.net ((meatspace)) http://meat.net/ From dbt at meat.net Fri May 18 10:02:37 2007 From: dbt at meat.net (David Terrell) Date: Fri May 18 09:02:39 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Computer Donations In-Reply-To: <20070517192737.GB13740@furrr.two14.net> References: <20070517113308.6095274834031e3691077dcdffae0724.29fe525e0c.wbe@email.secureserver.net> <7E58F61FEEDFC74BA46565C6880CBDC3EF6B99@NHGL-EX-VS.nmed.ds.med.navy.mil> <20070517192737.GB13740@furrr.two14.net> Message-ID: <20070518140237.GG32536@sphinx.chicagopeoplez.org> On Thu, May 17, 2007 at 02:27:37PM -0500, Martin Maney wrote: > In the sense that you might get away with it, I suppose that could be > said to be true. Please don't, though: monitors are full of fairly > hazardous materials that should be properly recycled. The annual > splurge of freecycling events was last month, but there are some from > time to time yet if you look around. http://www.epa.state.il.us/land/hazardous-waste/household-haz-waste/hhwc-schedule.html St. Charles on Saturday. Weaton June 2nd. You can also drop off in Chicago on the near north side, Naperville, and Rockford during the week. -- David Terrell dbt@meat.net ((meatspace)) http://meat.net/ From dbt at meat.net Fri May 18 10:03:02 2007 From: dbt at meat.net (David Terrell) Date: Fri May 18 09:03:04 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Search every part of the e-mail? In-Reply-To: <1179428854.9181F@fc6.dngr.org> References: <1179428854.9181F@fc6.dngr.org> Message-ID: <20070518140302.GH32536@sphinx.chicagopeoplez.org> Glimpse? On Thu, May 17, 2007 at 03:07:30PM -0400, Keith T. Garner wrote: > So, I have a problem where I need to look at every e-mail from the past > 2 years and find certain search terms. This inlcudes the contents of > all attachments as well. The mail is stored on linux in Maildor > format and is also accessable via imap. > > I figured I'd ask here to see if anyone has any brilliant ideas that > will save me time. > > I figured I'd write a script to visit every e-mail box then apply the > search terms and time search. The problem, though, is that this won't > search the attachments. So, I'm thinking I'll have to write another > search to find everything that has an attachment and then write a > potential buttload of code that knows how to (shell out to) examine each > type of attachment I come across. > > As a programmer, my first thought is 'write something' but maybe there > is a better way. > > Keith > > -- > Keith T. Garner kgarner@kgarner.com > -- > Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni > -- David Terrell dbt@meat.net ((meatspace)) http://meat.net/ From kgarner at kgarner.com Fri May 18 11:13:18 2007 From: kgarner at kgarner.com (Keith T. Garner) Date: Fri May 18 09:13:51 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Search every part of the e-mail? In-Reply-To: <20070518140302.GH32536@sphinx.chicagopeoplez.org> References: <1179428854.9181F@fc6.dngr.org> <20070518140302.GH32536@sphinx.chicagopeoplez.org> Message-ID: <1179497624.7A94C70@ff1.dngr.org> I thought about glimpse, except glimpse won't look into the attachments, would it? I have been using mairix, but it has a similar problem. Keith On Fri, 18 May 2007 10:06 am, David Terrell wrote: > Glimpse? > > On Thu, May 17, 2007 at 03:07:30PM -0400, Keith T. Garner wrote: >> So, I have a problem where I need to look at every e-mail from the >> past >> 2 years and find certain search terms. This inlcudes the contents of >> all attachments as well. The mail is stored on linux in Maildor >> format and is also accessable via imap. >> >> I figured I'd ask here to see if anyone has any brilliant ideas that >> will save me time. >> >> I figured I'd write a script to visit every e-mail box then apply the >> search terms and time search. The problem, though, is that this won't >> search the attachments. So, I'm thinking I'll have to write another >> search to find everything that has an attachment and then write a >> potential buttload of code that knows how to (shell out to) examine >> each >> type of attachment I come across. >> >> As a programmer, my first thought is 'write something' but maybe there >> is a better way. >> >> Keith >> >> -- >> Keith T. Garner kgarner@kgarner.com >> -- >> Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion >> http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni >> > > -- > David Terrell > dbt@meat.net > ((meatspace)) http://meat.net/ > -- > Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni -- Keith T. Garner kgarner@kgarner.com From david at graniteweb.com Sat May 19 00:27:58 2007 From: david at graniteweb.com (David Rock) Date: Fri May 18 23:28:17 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Computer Donations In-Reply-To: <20070517192737.GB13740@furrr.two14.net> References: <20070517113308.6095274834031e3691077dcdffae0724.29fe525e0c.wbe@email.secureserver.net> <7E58F61FEEDFC74BA46565C6880CBDC3EF6B99@NHGL-EX-VS.nmed.ds.med.navy.mil> <20070517192737.GB13740@furrr.two14.net> Message-ID: <20070519042758.GA24292@wdfs.graniteweb.com> * Martin Maney [2007-05-17 14:27]: > On Thu, May 17, 2007 at 01:41:57PM -0500, Svaldi, Fred E wrote: > > I have a 15-inch CRT monitor. Does anyone think it has any donation value, > > or should I scrap it? > > If you can find someone who wants it, I would suggest you not worry > about whether it's worth ten cetns or twenty cents. :-/ > > > Goodwill wouldn't take it. I was told I could throw it out with the regular > > trash. > > In the sense that you might get away with it, I suppose that could be > said to be true. Please don't, though: monitors are full of fairly > hazardous materials that should be properly recycled. The annual > splurge of freecycling events was last month, but there are some from > time to time yet if you look around. There is one this Saturday sponsored by the Will County Land Use Department at Vintage Tech Recyclers 25503 Ruff Street, Plainfield http://www.willcountylanduse.com/WasteServ/news.html Open 8:00am to 3:00pm -- David Rock david@graniteweb.com From slouchfuzz at ippimail.com Sat May 19 00:46:15 2007 From: slouchfuzz at ippimail.com (Jeff Y.) Date: Sat May 19 00:18:32 2007 Subject: [LUNI] OLPC on this Sunday's "60 Minutes" In-Reply-To: <464CC5F6.8090002@msbrepairs.com> References: <464CC5F6.8090002@msbrepairs.com> Message-ID: <33734.69.219.171.93.1179549975.squirrel@www.ippimail.com> http://desktoplinux.com/news/NS7002236595.html >>> CBS TV's "60 Minutes" will feature the Linux-powered OLPC (One Laptop Per Child) device on Sunday, May 20 at 7 p.m. EDT/PDT. Project director Nicholas Negroponte will talk about his dream of putting a laptop computer into the hands of every child as an educational aid. >>> -- Email and shopping with the feelgood factor! 55% of income to good causes. http://www.ippimail.com From wordsmythe99 at comcast.net Mon May 21 12:43:42 2007 From: wordsmythe99 at comcast.net (DJH) Date: Mon May 21 11:54:00 2007 Subject: [LUNI] niulug Message-ID: <001701c79bc7$3d337c50$6501a8c0@20043GHZ> Hello ~ I am writing to inquire as to whether or not the niulug still exists. The website is pending renewal. I am highly interested in the group. Thank you for your time. Don Dr. Donald J. Hunt Northern Illinois University College of Education - LEPF 223 Graham Hall (Office 417) 1425 West Lincoln Highway DeKalb, IL 60115 Preferred Email: wordsmythe99@comcast.net 630-209-7710 (Cell) 815-753-8750 (Fax) --- Energy Tip: Get a tune-up every 30,000 miles or every two years - whichever comes first. "Fixing a car that is noticeably out of tune can improve its gas mileage by about 4 percent" (DOE and ASE.org). From sfaci at cs.uic.edu Mon May 21 18:13:15 2007 From: sfaci at cs.uic.edu (Samir Faci) Date: Mon May 21 12:13:18 2007 Subject: [LUNI] niulug In-Reply-To: <001701c79bc7$3d337c50$6501a8c0@20043GHZ> References: <001701c79bc7$3d337c50$6501a8c0@20043GHZ> Message-ID: <9db93b0e0705211013r304a90afo8f5874585525b64c@mail.gmail.com> As far as I know.. I don't believe it's active beyond the website still being up (kind of) and the mailing list is still running, but there is little to no traffic on it. I used to run the niulug for a bit while I was still at NIU and ran it a year or two after I graduated, I don't believe anyone took it over after me. our advisor at the time was Dr. John Berezinski, who you may wish to contact for more info, he would know best. He's the one who's hosting the niulug mailing list iirc. If you or anyone is interested in restarting the org, let me know. I have an archive of the old niulug website that might be helpful. I'm CCing this email to Dr. Berezinski and the niulug list. -- Samir PS. at the tail end of it, we used to meet at "The House" coffee shop in DeKalb, which I just noticed re-opened recently. wifi access n coffee. On 5/21/07, DJH wrote: > Hello ~ > > > > I am writing to inquire as to whether or not the niulug still exists. The > website is pending renewal. I am highly interested in the group. Thank you > for your time. > > > > Don > > > > Dr. Donald J. Hunt > Northern Illinois University > College of Education - LEPF > 223 Graham Hall (Office 417) > 1425 West Lincoln Highway > > DeKalb, IL 60115 > > Preferred Email: wordsmythe99@comcast.net > > 630-209-7710 (Cell) > > 815-753-8750 (Fax) > > --- > > Energy Tip: > > Get a tune-up every 30,000 miles or every two years - whichever comes first. > "Fixing a car that is noticeably out of tune can improve its gas mileage by > about 4 percent" (DOE and ASE.org). > > > > -- > Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni > From mlabowicz at gmail.com Tue May 22 12:03:50 2007 From: mlabowicz at gmail.com (Michael Labowicz) Date: Tue May 22 11:03:56 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Wanted: PCMCIA 56K Modem Message-ID: I have a really old laptop (233 mhz) that doesn't have a dial up modem, but it does have a free PCMCIA slot. Does anyone have a PCMCIA 56k modem that they would be willing to part with for a low price? I'm in the Northwest Suburbs. -- Michael Labowicz http://www.labowicz.com/blog/ From jrstark at barntowire.com Tue May 22 22:53:20 2007 From: jrstark at barntowire.com (Janine Starykowicz) Date: Tue May 22 21:59:49 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Sue me first, Microsoft Message-ID: <4653ACA0.4090506@barntowire.com> Hello, and welcome to our Microsoft lawsuit invitational. This page is intended to be a place where people would like to join together to invite a Microsoft patent infringement lawsuit. If you would like to invite a visit by Brad Smith, Microsoft's head litigator, please feel free to add your name here. We are asking that people include their name, email address, version of GNU Linux disto(s) being used, and a short statement explaining why you are using that distro. http://digitaltippingpoint.com/wiki/index.php?title=Sue_me_first%2C_Microsoft Janine From sil at sevatech.com Wed May 23 15:38:05 2007 From: sil at sevatech.com (Gene Jannece) Date: Wed May 23 14:38:07 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Computer Donations In-Reply-To: <20070519042758.GA24292@wdfs.graniteweb.com> References: <20070517113308.6095274834031e3691077dcdffae0724.29fe525e0c.wbe@email.secureserver.net> <7E58F61FEEDFC74BA46565C6880CBDC3EF6B99@NHGL-EX-VS.nmed.ds.med.navy.mil> <20070517192737.GB13740@furrr.two14.net> <20070519042758.GA24292@wdfs.graniteweb.com> Message-ID: <20070523193805.GA11735@null.sevatech.com> Being an avid G4tv watch, they were pushing this thing called gcycle.org. it's flash heavy so ironically you won't be able to go to it on the computer you are trying to recycle, but it's done by the guy who does explodingdog.com. hope this helps. On Fri, May 18, 2007 at 11:27:58PM -0500, David Rock wrote: > * Martin Maney [2007-05-17 14:27]: > > On Thu, May 17, 2007 at 01:41:57PM -0500, Svaldi, Fred E wrote: > > > I have a 15-inch CRT monitor. Does anyone think it has any donation value, > > > or should I scrap it? > > > > If you can find someone who wants it, I would suggest you not worry > > about whether it's worth ten cetns or twenty cents. :-/ > > > > > Goodwill wouldn't take it. I was told I could throw it out with the regular > > > trash. > > > > In the sense that you might get away with it, I suppose that could be > > said to be true. Please don't, though: monitors are full of fairly > > hazardous materials that should be properly recycled. The annual > > splurge of freecycling events was last month, but there are some from > > time to time yet if you look around. > > There is one this Saturday sponsored by the Will County Land Use > Department at Vintage Tech Recyclers > 25503 Ruff Street, Plainfield > > http://www.willcountylanduse.com/WasteServ/news.html > Open 8:00am to 3:00pm > > -- > David Rock > david@graniteweb.com > -- > Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni From aclose at gmail.com Wed May 23 17:12:10 2007 From: aclose at gmail.com (Andrew Close) Date: Wed May 23 16:12:13 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Computer Donations In-Reply-To: <20070523193805.GA11735@null.sevatech.com> References: <20070517113308.6095274834031e3691077dcdffae0724.29fe525e0c.wbe@email.secureserver.net> <7E58F61FEEDFC74BA46565C6880CBDC3EF6B99@NHGL-EX-VS.nmed.ds.med.navy.mil> <20070517192737.GB13740@furrr.two14.net> <20070519042758.GA24292@wdfs.graniteweb.com> <20070523193805.GA11735@null.sevatech.com> Message-ID: On 5/23/07, Gene Jannece wrote: > Being an avid G4tv watch, they were pushing this thing called gcycle.org. > it's flash heavy so ironically you won't be able to go to it on the computer > you are trying to recycle, but it's done by the guy who does explodingdog.com. Gene, thanks for the gcycle.com link. very cool. i searched for places to recycle in/around Glendale Heights (60139) and it gave me a huge list. no excuse not to recycle now. :) From jquigley at jquigley.com Thu May 24 00:37:51 2007 From: jquigley at jquigley.com (John Quigley) Date: Wed May 23 23:37:54 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Chicago Linux updates Message-ID: <4655169F.4040201@jquigley.com> Folks: Just a quick word to keep you guys up-to-date with what we're doing in the Chicago Linux group. Our next meeting is June 02 at 3p. I'm expecting a fair-sized crowd, as were hosting three groups: Chicago Linux, Gnome and Lisp, with potentially three tracks of presentations running simultaneously. No firm location yet, but it'll be right downtown, as usual. Also, perhaps of particular note, we're getting together for a summer series we've so creatively entitled ProgrammingTonight. Jess is running this, and a fair number of the "core" members are taking part. Our purpose: get together to write great software. We have one group project so far, a feed mesh web application, rough details of which can be found here: http://www.chicagolug.org/pipermail/chicagolinux-discuss/2007-May/000338.html If you're interested in helping out on this effort, or just hanging out with us for some wonderful coffee and software talk, meet us tomorrow at Fixx at 1900 hours. Fixx is located at: 3053 N Sheffield Ave, Chicago, IL Which is just two blocks south of the Belmont red line stop on Sheffield. Here's the Google Map: http://tinyurl.com/28qq5v If you want to stay in closer touch with us, please subscribe to our mailing lists: https://www.chicagolug.org/lists/listinfo My best to everyone. - John Quigley From me at heyjay.com Fri May 25 13:59:42 2007 From: me at heyjay.com (Jay Strauss) Date: Fri May 25 12:59:49 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Resizing my LVM In-Reply-To: <20070518135955.GF32536@sphinx.chicagopeoplez.org> References: <464BCE51.8000302@kgarner.com> <20070517042436.GB11402@furrr.two14.net> <20070518135955.GF32536@sphinx.chicagopeoplez.org> Message-ID: > > Contrariwise, if you do need to run the filesystem resize offline, you > > might encounter some difficulty unmounting /home if you get root by > > su[do] from a normal login. > > promised? > > > cd / ; sudo umount /home > > Should work just fine. I'm unable to umount /home. I keep getting resource busy even though I've shut off samba, and I'm the only one logged into the box Thanks Jay From craig at codestorm.org Fri May 25 14:37:50 2007 From: craig at codestorm.org (Craig Van Tassle) Date: Fri May 25 13:35:09 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Resizing my LVM In-Reply-To: References: <464BCE51.8000302@kgarner.com> <20070517042436.GB11402@furrr.two14.net> <20070518135955.GF32536@sphinx.chicagopeoplez.org> Message-ID: <46572CFE.5060503@codestorm.org> Well that is becaue your user account is loged in and your . files are on /home. If you can login as root and then unmount /home. Jay Strauss wrote: >> > Contrariwise, if you do need to run the filesystem resize offline, you >> > might encounter some difficulty unmounting /home if you get root by >> > su[do] from a normal login. >> > promised? >> >> >> cd / ; sudo umount /home >> >> Should work just fine. > > I'm unable to umount /home. I keep getting resource busy even though > I've shut off samba, and I'm the only one logged into the box > > Thanks > Jay From maney at two14.net Fri May 25 14:54:21 2007 From: maney at two14.net (Martin Maney) Date: Fri May 25 13:54:29 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Resizing my LVM In-Reply-To: <46572CFE.5060503@codestorm.org> References: <464BCE51.8000302@kgarner.com> <20070517042436.GB11402@furrr.two14.net> <20070518135955.GF32536@sphinx.chicagopeoplez.org> <46572CFE.5060503@codestorm.org> Message-ID: <20070525185421.GB5023@furrr.two14.net> /me can't resist one small smirk and a quiet "told you so" :-) On Fri, May 25, 2007 at 01:37:50PM -0500, Craig Van Tassle wrote: > Well that is becaue your user account is loged in and your . files are on /home. > If you can login as root and then unmount /home. > > Jay Strauss wrote: > >> > Contrariwise, if you do need to run the filesystem resize offline, you > >> > might encounter some difficulty unmounting /home if you get root by > >> > su[do] from a normal login. > >> > promised? > >> > >> > >> cd / ; sudo umount /home > >> > >> Should work just fine. > > > > I'm unable to umount /home. I keep getting resource busy even though > > I've shut off samba, and I'm the only one logged into the box > > > > Thanks > > Jay > > -- > Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni -- Although we may never know with complete certainty the identity of the winner of this year's presidential election, the identity of the loser is perfectly clear. It is the nation's confidence in the judge as an impartial guardian of the law. - Justice John Paul Stevens, from his dissenting opinion Dec 12, 2000 From dbt at meat.net Fri May 25 15:40:06 2007 From: dbt at meat.net (David Terrell) Date: Fri May 25 14:40:08 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Resizing my LVM In-Reply-To: <46572CFE.5060503@codestorm.org> References: <464BCE51.8000302@kgarner.com> <20070517042436.GB11402@furrr.two14.net> <20070518135955.GF32536@sphinx.chicagopeoplez.org> <46572CFE.5060503@codestorm.org> Message-ID: <20070525194006.GC28682@sphinx.chicagopeoplez.org> On Fri, May 25, 2007 at 01:37:50PM -0500, Craig Van Tassle wrote: > Well that is becaue your user account is loged in and your . files are on /home. > If you can login as root and then unmount /home. Try disabling your shell history ($HISTFILE in bash) and see what happens. There really shouldn't be dot-files open and in use by a running shell otherwise. -- David Terrell dbt@meat.net ((meatspace)) http://meat.net/ From jgd-luni at metajoe.com Fri May 25 15:58:41 2007 From: jgd-luni at metajoe.com (Joe Digilio) Date: Fri May 25 14:58:48 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Resizing my LVM In-Reply-To: References: <464BCE51.8000302@kgarner.com> <20070517042436.GB11402@furrr.two14.net> <20070518135955.GF32536@sphinx.chicagopeoplez.org> Message-ID: <8563497c0705251258k2a0e8151gee98cd452d36119a@mail.gmail.com> On 5/25/07, Jay Strauss wrote: > > > Contrariwise, if you do need to run the filesystem resize offline, you > > > might encounter some difficulty unmounting /home if you get root by > > > su[do] from a normal login. > > > promised? > > > > > > cd / ; sudo umount /home > > > > Should work just fine. > > I'm unable to umount /home. I keep getting resource busy even though > I've shut off samba, and I'm the only one logged into the box As root: lsof | grep /home That will tell you what files/directories are in use (what process owns them, etc) From barry at vonahsen.com Fri May 25 16:33:17 2007 From: barry at vonahsen.com (Barry Von Ahsen) Date: Fri May 25 15:53:46 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Resizing my LVM In-Reply-To: <20070518135955.GF32536@sphinx.chicagopeoplez.org> References: <464BCE51.8000302@kgarner.com> <20070517042436.GB11402@furrr.two14.net> <20070518135955.GF32536@sphinx.chicagopeoplez.org> Message-ID: <4657480D.80303@vonahsen.com> David Terrell wrote: > On Wed, May 16, 2007 at 11:24:36PM -0500, Martin Maney wrote: >> On Wed, May 16, 2007 at 11:38:57PM -0400, Keith T. Garner wrote: >>> Also, you didn't mention the distribution or kernel you're on, but if its a >>> new enough kernel and new enough e2fsprogs, you can do the resizing without >>> unmounting the filesystem. >> Contrariwise, if you do need to run the filesystem resize offline, you >> might encounter some difficulty unmounting /home if you get root by >> su[do] from a normal login. >> promised? > > > cd / ; sudo umount /home > > Should work just fine. > > Now, umounting /var via sudo could cause problems, especially if you > try to re-mount with sudo and /var/run/sudo is gone. :) > I was able to use ext2online to resize / yesterday -barry From me at heyjay.com Fri May 25 19:47:43 2007 From: me at heyjay.com (Jay Strauss) Date: Fri May 25 18:47:46 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Resizing my LVM In-Reply-To: <46572CFE.5060503@codestorm.org> References: <464BCE51.8000302@kgarner.com> <20070517042436.GB11402@furrr.two14.net> <20070518135955.GF32536@sphinx.chicagopeoplez.org> <46572CFE.5060503@codestorm.org> Message-ID: No, I ssh directly as root. On 5/25/07, Craig Van Tassle wrote: > Well that is becaue your user account is loged in and your . files are on /home. > If you can login as root and then unmount /home. > > Jay Strauss wrote: > >> > Contrariwise, if you do need to run the filesystem resize offline, you > >> > might encounter some difficulty unmounting /home if you get root by > >> > su[do] from a normal login. > >> > promised? > >> > >> > >> cd / ; sudo umount /home > >> > >> Should work just fine. > > > > I'm unable to umount /home. I keep getting resource busy even though > > I've shut off samba, and I'm the only one logged into the box > > > > Thanks > > Jay > > -- > Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni > From me at heyjay.com Fri May 25 19:49:09 2007 From: me at heyjay.com (Jay Strauss) Date: Fri May 25 18:49:12 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Resizing my LVM In-Reply-To: <20070525185421.GB5023@furrr.two14.net> References: <464BCE51.8000302@kgarner.com> <20070517042436.GB11402@furrr.two14.net> <20070518135955.GF32536@sphinx.chicagopeoplez.org> <46572CFE.5060503@codestorm.org> <20070525185421.GB5023@furrr.two14.net> Message-ID: > /me can't resist one small smirk and a quiet "told you so" :-) > :), sorry I was unclear. I'm unable to unmount /home, but root is the only one logged into the box. That is, I (root) ssh'd directly, no su'ing Jay From me at heyjay.com Fri May 25 19:51:39 2007 From: me at heyjay.com (Jay Strauss) Date: Fri May 25 18:51:41 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Resizing my LVM In-Reply-To: <8563497c0705251258k2a0e8151gee98cd452d36119a@mail.gmail.com> References: <464BCE51.8000302@kgarner.com> <20070517042436.GB11402@furrr.two14.net> <20070518135955.GF32536@sphinx.chicagopeoplez.org> <8563497c0705251258k2a0e8151gee98cd452d36119a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: > As root: > lsof | grep /home > > That will tell you what files/directories are in use (what process > owns them, etc) iron:~# lsof | grep /home iron:~# umount /home umount: /home: device is busy umount: /home: device is busy Jay From me at heyjay.com Fri May 25 19:53:01 2007 From: me at heyjay.com (Jay Strauss) Date: Fri May 25 18:59:23 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Resizing my LVM In-Reply-To: <20070525194006.GC28682@sphinx.chicagopeoplez.org> References: <464BCE51.8000302@kgarner.com> <20070517042436.GB11402@furrr.two14.net> <20070518135955.GF32536@sphinx.chicagopeoplez.org> <46572CFE.5060503@codestorm.org> <20070525194006.GC28682@sphinx.chicagopeoplez.org> Message-ID: > > Try disabling your shell history ($HISTFILE in bash) and see > what happens. There really shouldn't be dot-files open and in > use by a running shell otherwise. Hi, I'm not sure what you want me to do? Thanks Jay From maney at two14.net Fri May 25 22:33:28 2007 From: maney at two14.net (Martin Maney) Date: Fri May 25 21:33:37 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Resizing my LVM In-Reply-To: References: <464BCE51.8000302@kgarner.com> <20070517042436.GB11402@furrr.two14.net> <20070518135955.GF32536@sphinx.chicagopeoplez.org> <46572CFE.5060503@codestorm.org> <20070525185421.GB5023@furrr.two14.net> Message-ID: <20070526023328.GB6093@furrr.two14.net> On Fri, May 25, 2007 at 06:49:09PM -0500, Jay Strauss wrote: > sorry I was unclear. I'm unable to unmount /home, but root is the > only one logged into the box. That is, I (root) ssh'd directly, no > su'ing Not to worry, I needed that smile this morning. Okay, that's weird. There isn't another filesystem mounted somewhere under /home or... well, lsof ought to find the "or" anyway. Except it never seems to work for me when I really need it either. :-( -- The most common implementation of SMTP is contained in sendmail. This program is included free in most UNIX software distributions, but you get less than you pay for. -- Cheswick, Bellovin & Rubin From scott at guppylog.com Fri May 25 21:42:04 2007 From: scott at guppylog.com (Scott Lockwood) Date: Sat May 26 09:14:28 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Resizing my LVM In-Reply-To: References: <20070517042436.GB11402@furrr.two14.net> <20070518135955.GF32536@sphinx.chicagopeoplez.org> <8563497c0705251258k2a0e8151gee98cd452d36119a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <001301c79f37$10f4ba00$e88fa8c0@tincek2> Have you considered booting from CD, and using something to resize the partition from there? -----Original Message----- From: luni-bounces@luni.org [mailto:luni-bounces@luni.org] On Behalf Of Jay Strauss Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 6:52 PM To: Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion Subject: Re: [LUNI] Resizing my LVM > As root: > lsof | grep /home > > That will tell you what files/directories are in use (what process > owns them, etc) iron:~# lsof | grep /home iron:~# umount /home umount: /home: device is busy umount: /home: device is busy Jay -- Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni From me at heyjay.com Sat May 26 11:17:19 2007 From: me at heyjay.com (Jay Strauss) Date: Sat May 26 10:17:22 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Resizing my LVM In-Reply-To: <001301c79f37$10f4ba00$e88fa8c0@tincek2> References: <20070517042436.GB11402@furrr.two14.net> <20070518135955.GF32536@sphinx.chicagopeoplez.org> <8563497c0705251258k2a0e8151gee98cd452d36119a@mail.gmail.com> <001301c79f37$10f4ba00$e88fa8c0@tincek2> Message-ID: On 5/25/07, Scott Lockwood wrote: > Have you considered booting from CD, and using something to resize the > partition from there? No, but maybe I will :) From me at heyjay.com Sat May 26 13:33:08 2007 From: me at heyjay.com (Jay Strauss) Date: Sat May 26 12:33:11 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Resizing my LVM In-Reply-To: References: <20070517042436.GB11402@furrr.two14.net> <20070518135955.GF32536@sphinx.chicagopeoplez.org> <8563497c0705251258k2a0e8151gee98cd452d36119a@mail.gmail.com> <001301c79f37$10f4ba00$e88fa8c0@tincek2> Message-ID: On 5/26/07, Jay Strauss wrote: > On 5/25/07, Scott Lockwood wrote: > > Have you considered booting from CD, and using something to resize the > > partition from there? > > No, but maybe I will :) > I found why the resource was busy. I had /home exported on NFS. The resize went fine (for all I know). Pretty simple Thanks all Jay From luni at pyewacket.org Sat May 26 14:57:50 2007 From: luni at pyewacket.org (Mike Scott) Date: Sat May 26 16:04:39 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Resizing my LVM Message-ID: <20070526135750.6095274834031e3691077dcdffae0724.c12ac17edc.wbe@email.secureserver.net> Or, how about 'telinit 1' to go into single-user maintenance mode? - Mike Scott > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: [LUNI] Resizing my LVM > From: "Jay Strauss" > Date: Sat, May 26, 2007 10:17 am > To: "Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion" > > > On 5/25/07, Scott Lockwood wrote: > > Have you considered booting from CD, and using something to resize the > > partition from there? > > No, but maybe I will :) > -- > Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni From sqrfolkdnc at comcast.net Sun May 27 00:38:19 2007 From: sqrfolkdnc at comcast.net (Carey Tyler Schug) Date: Sat May 26 23:38:47 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Computer Donations In-Reply-To: <20070517192737.GB13740@furrr.two14.net> References: <20070517113308.6095274834031e3691077dcdffae0724.29fe525e0c.wbe@email.secureserver.net> <7E58F61FEEDFC74BA46565C6880CBDC3EF6B99@NHGL-EX-VS.nmed.ds.med.navy.mil> <20070517192737.GB13740@furrr.two14.net> Message-ID: <46590B3B.4070409@comcast.net> I believe the "rules" for my city stated something like "a limit of 2 computers/tv sets per month" I don't know if that means they feel that amount won't pollute the landfill, OR if that means they will take and recycle that much per household. On a similar vein, I know some towns will take batteries (e.g. C and D cells) if bagged and left next to the recycle bin. Martin Maney wrote: > On Thu, May 17, 2007 at 01:41:57PM -0500, Svaldi, Fred E wrote: > >> I have a 15-inch CRT monitor. Does anyone think it has any donation value, >> or should I scrap it? >> > > If you can find someone who wants it, I would suggest you not worry > about whether it's worth ten cetns or twenty cents. :-/ > > >> Goodwill wouldn't take it. I was told I could throw it out with the regular >> trash. >> > > In the sense that you might get away with it, I suppose that could be > said to be true. Please don't, though: monitors are full of fairly > hazardous materials that should be properly recycled. The annual > splurge of freecycling events was last month, but there are some from > time to time yet if you look around. > > -- Carey Tyler Schug From costi at rcn.com Sun May 27 21:15:08 2007 From: costi at rcn.com (Constantin Gavrilescu) Date: Sun May 27 20:18:31 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Resizing my LVM In-Reply-To: <20070526135750.6095274834031e3691077dcdffae0724.c12ac17edc.wbe@email.secureserver.net> References: <20070526135750.6095274834031e3691077dcdffae0724.c12ac17edc.wbe@email.secureserver.net> Message-ID: <465A2D1C.3010702@rcn.com> Mike Scott wrote: > Or, how about 'telinit 1' to go into single-user maintenance mode? > I encountered some problems too in my LVM resize saga. I wanted to resize my root filesystem. The "umount /" was reported as successful, even though it didn't unmounted the filesystem. "mount / -o remount,ro" was equally successful: it didn't remount the filesystem, but reported success. This is a CentOS4. I remeber with older Mandrake Linuxes I was able to remount the root filesystem as read-only in single mode. Solution: hook up a keyboard and monitor to the server and boot a live cd. A question still remains: how to un-mount the root filesystem or at least mount it read-only? From sfaci at cs.uic.edu Sun May 27 23:09:58 2007 From: sfaci at cs.uic.edu (Samir Faci) Date: Sun May 27 22:10:01 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Resizing my LVM In-Reply-To: <465A2D1C.3010702@rcn.com> References: <20070526135750.6095274834031e3691077dcdffae0724.c12ac17edc.wbe@email.secureserver.net> <465A2D1C.3010702@rcn.com> Message-ID: <9db93b0e0705272009r75b44302u52627a748ceaf064@mail.gmail.com> I really haven't been following this thread too much, but I wouldn't think you'd be able to. Not without having some other FS it can depend on to write to. you can mount a root fs as ro easely enough, but when that's done.. usually you can't do jack. (ie no networking. limited shell etc.) I think.. that a lot of the services you end up running a init 3 end up needing to write to files. You could try doing a ramfs maybe put the /var/log and /tmp on a ramfs and see if it'll let remount root, though the simplest and cleanest solution would be to boot off a live cd at the physical machine. -- Samir PS. hope i'm not completely offbase, since I've probably skipped over the last 15 emails or so of this thread. On 5/27/07, Constantin Gavrilescu wrote: > Mike Scott wrote: > > Or, how about 'telinit 1' to go into single-user maintenance mode? > > > > I encountered some problems too in my LVM resize saga. > I wanted to resize my root filesystem. > The "umount /" was reported as successful, even though it didn't > unmounted the filesystem. > "mount / -o remount,ro" was equally successful: it didn't remount the > filesystem, but reported success. > This is a CentOS4. I remeber with older Mandrake Linuxes I was able to > remount the root filesystem as read-only in single mode. > > Solution: hook up a keyboard and monitor to the server and boot a live cd. > A question still remains: how to un-mount the root filesystem or at > least mount it read-only? > -- > Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni > From luni at pyewacket.org Mon May 28 10:25:53 2007 From: luni at pyewacket.org (Mike Scott) Date: Mon May 28 11:26:06 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Kubuntu won't boot after kernel update Message-ID: <20070528092553.6095274834031e3691077dcdffae0724.87b29ff411.wbe@email.secureserver.net> I have been running Kubuntu 7 (feisty fawn) with no problems. Today, it wanted to update the kernel and afterward, when I rebooted, all I get is the BusyBox prompt (initramfs) after the error message: /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off BusyBox doesn't have squat for functions and I can't even run dmesg. Since (K)ubuntu linux is one of those distros that believes in presenting a pretty face rather than giving me any useful info, I don't get to see anything during boot except their logo. I have to figure out how to make it display boot messages. I Googled a bit, but nothing in the Ubuntu formus seems particularly helpful. Unless my hard drive went south, but I only have a single SATA drive and it is booting from it (no other bootable media in the system). Could one of the partitions gotten jacked? I will try running the WD diagnostic tools, but it seems coincidental that it would fail immediately on an upgrade. This is my second drive (the first one developed issues and was replaced by WD) and I am about to give up on WD hard drives if this is indeed the problem. ANy ideas? - Mike Scott From scott at cashnetusa.com Mon May 28 12:41:46 2007 From: scott at cashnetusa.com (Scott Lockwood) Date: Mon May 28 11:59:16 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Kubuntu won't boot after kernel update In-Reply-To: <20070528092553.6095274834031e3691077dcdffae0724.87b29ff411.wbe@email.secureserver.net> References: <20070528092553.6095274834031e3691077dcdffae0724.87b29ff411.wbe@email.secureserver.net> Message-ID: <1180370506.6102.5.camel@scott-640m> On Mon, 2007-05-28 at 09:25 -0700, Mike Scott wrote: > > BusyBox doesn't have squat for functions and I can't even run dmesg. > Since (K)ubuntu linux is one of those distros that believes in > presenting a pretty face rather than giving me any useful info, I > don't > get to see anything during boot except their logo. I have to figure > out > how to make it display boot messages. Hit Esc. when grub prompts you do. Find the kernel you're using, and edit it's command line. Remove 'quiet' and 'splash' and you will see all the normal dmesg output. Or, boot to the previous kernel, and uninstall the broken one. -- W. Scott Lockwood III Systems Administrator Cashnetusa.com From luni at pyewacket.org Mon May 28 11:36:01 2007 From: luni at pyewacket.org (Mike Scott) Date: Mon May 28 12:36:10 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Kubuntu won't boot after kernel update Message-ID: <20070528103601.6095274834031e3691077dcdffae0724.134716170b.wbe@email.secureserver.net> Thanks. I was booted from the Edgy live CD, so I just mounted the partition and edited the menu.lst file to remove all of the 'quiet' and 'splash' references (I really hate flash over substance) and also commented out the 'hiddenmenu' command so I could see the choices without pressing ESC. Long story short, I booted the new kernel and didn't notice any errors, but stranger still, the system now boots! I'm booting the new kernel (2.6.20-16) and everything appears to work. Not sure why. Whoever said computers were logical, never had to work with one! - Mike Scott > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: [LUNI] Kubuntu won't boot after kernel update > From: Scott Lockwood > Date: Mon, May 28, 2007 11:41 am > To: Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > > > On Mon, 2007-05-28 at 09:25 -0700, Mike Scott wrote: > > > > BusyBox doesn't have squat for functions and I can't even run dmesg. > > Since (K)ubuntu linux is one of those distros that believes in > > presenting a pretty face rather than giving me any useful info, I > > don't > > get to see anything during boot except their logo. I have to figure > > out > > how to make it display boot messages. > > Hit Esc. when grub prompts you do. Find the kernel you're using, and > edit it's command line. Remove 'quiet' and 'splash' and you will see all > the normal dmesg output. > > Or, boot to the previous kernel, and uninstall the broken one. > > -- > W. Scott Lockwood III > Systems Administrator > Cashnetusa.com > > -- > Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni From maney at two14.net Mon May 28 20:16:23 2007 From: maney at two14.net (Martin Maney) Date: Mon May 28 19:16:35 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Resizing my LVM In-Reply-To: <465A2D1C.3010702@rcn.com> References: <20070526135750.6095274834031e3691077dcdffae0724.c12ac17edc.wbe@email.secureserver.net> <465A2D1C.3010702@rcn.com> Message-ID: <20070529001623.GA13010@furrr.two14.net> On Sun, May 27, 2007 at 08:15:08PM -0500, Constantin Gavrilescu wrote: > Solution: hook up a keyboard and monitor to the server and boot a live cd. > A question still remains: how to un-mount the root filesystem or at > least mount it read-only? Oh, that's easy - root will be unmounted when the system shuts down - it's one of the very last steps, just as mounting it is one of the first. ;-) -- If there is a lesson to be learnt from Adobe's eBook fiasco, it is that litigation is no substitute for well-designed software. -- The Economist From steven.mcgrath at chigeek.com Wed May 30 14:42:07 2007 From: steven.mcgrath at chigeek.com (Steven McGrath) Date: Wed May 30 13:42:21 2007 Subject: [LUNI] June 1st Chicago 2500 Meeting Information Message-ID: <28326b7c0705301142x2b23e046q32058aad0fdeddd4@mail.gmail.com> The May Chicago 2600 Meeting is near! The meeting will be Friday, May 4th at the Neighborhood Boys and Girls Club and will feature much of the same usual fun that all of you have grown to expect! [Presentation Information] - 8:00pm - DefCon CTF (spork) - 8:30pm - Meet-n-Greet - 9:00pm - Website Part Duex (Maniac, Darkstorm, Lobo, Battery, et. al.) - 9:30pm - Hax by Jaku [life] (Jaku) - 10.30pm - How to Build a IDS Sensornet on The Cheap (Maniac) - After hours - Wii, Music, Socializing, etc. [General Information] - Meeting Time: 7.00pm - Approx. 3-5am - Meeting Date: Friday, May. 4th - Place : 2501 W Irving Park Road, Chicago - More Info : http://chicago2600.net From sfaci at cs.uic.edu Wed May 30 14:48:43 2007 From: sfaci at cs.uic.edu (Samir Faci) Date: Wed May 30 13:48:58 2007 Subject: [LUNI] June 1st Chicago 2500 Meeting Information In-Reply-To: <28326b7c0705301142x2b23e046q32058aad0fdeddd4@mail.gmail.com> References: <28326b7c0705301142x2b23e046q32058aad0fdeddd4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <9db93b0e0705301148j3e4ef205wcd487b9a7910f177@mail.gmail.com> I presume the subject was a typo, unless there's a new 2500 meeting being forked from 2600? On 5/30/07, Steven McGrath wrote: > The May Chicago 2600 Meeting is near! The meeting will be Friday, > May 4th at the Neighborhood Boys and Girls Club and will feature much > of the same usual fun that all of you have grown to expect! > > [Presentation Information] > - 8:00pm - DefCon CTF (spork) > - 8:30pm - Meet-n-Greet > - 9:00pm - Website Part Duex (Maniac, Darkstorm, Lobo, Battery, et. al.) > - 9:30pm - Hax by Jaku [life] (Jaku) > - 10.30pm - How to Build a IDS Sensornet on The Cheap (Maniac) > - After hours - Wii, Music, Socializing, etc. > > [General Information] > - Meeting Time: 7.00pm - Approx. 3-5am > - Meeting Date: Friday, May. 4th > - Place : 2501 W Irving Park Road, Chicago > - More Info : http://chicago2600.net > -- > Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni > From steven.mcgrath at chigeek.com Wed May 30 15:27:21 2007 From: steven.mcgrath at chigeek.com (Steven McGrath) Date: Wed May 30 14:27:24 2007 Subject: [LUNI] CORRECTION: June 1st Chicago 2600 Meeting Information Message-ID: <28326b7c0705301227y5877e5f9rf24c20b70e79204a@mail.gmail.com> The June Chicago 2600 Meeting is near! The meeting will be Friday, June 1st at the Neighborhood Boys and Girls Club and will feature much of the same usual fun that all of you have grown to expect! [Presentation Information] - 8:00pm - DefCon CTF (spork) - 8:30pm - Meet-n-Greet - 9:00pm - Website Part Duex (Maniac, Darkstorm, Lobo, Battery, et. al.) - 9:30pm - Hax by Jaku [life] (Jaku) - 10.30pm - How to Build a IDS Sensornet on The Cheap (Maniac) - After hours - Wii, Music, Socializing, etc. [General Information] - Meeting Time: 7.00pm - Approx. 3-5am - Meeting Date: Friday, May. 4th - Place : 2501 W Irving Park Road, Chicago - More Info : http://chicago2600.net