From draggor at gmail.com Thu Nov 1 16:01:25 2007 From: draggor at gmail.com (Draggor) Date: Thu Nov 1 15:01:28 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Change in Tech Talk Tonight! Message-ID: <357b81470711011301r7b5a790bx7cdbeabdcb609d0f@mail.gmail.com> Tonight Massimo will be giving his talk on his new Python web development framework, starting at 6:30pm, in room 200 of the CTI building. There will be food and drinks, though that tends to disappear fast! Also a note that November 4 will be our Linux Fest for the quarter in the Multi Purpose Room of the Lincoln Park Student Center. Lunch and dinner will be served. ~Ross Davidson, DLC President From dcoburn at cemcosystems.com Thu Nov 1 16:08:28 2007 From: dcoburn at cemcosystems.com (Darryl Coburn) Date: Fri Nov 2 10:37:28 2007 Subject: [LUNI] ANN: Chicago Suburb Contract Position Message-ID: <007601c81ccb$595460e0$4500a8c0@cemco.com> One year contract position with possible extensions. Must have one year of Linux experience, ability to follow and improve procedures, BS or work exp, prefer 1 year of Mass Storage knowledge. The Mass storage systems include three instances operating seven tape libraries. This complex includes about 130 tape drives with a Linux system on each one and ~30 Linux servers for operation of Mass Storage solution. The complex is housed in two different data centers. It contains approximately 7 petabytes of archived scientific data used in high energy research around the world. The contractor will work with the Mass Storage system assisting in the daily delivery of storage services. These operational services include: * Perform tape drive intervention mover tasks. Return tape drives and movers back into service. * Perform tape media recovery and cloning. * Perform tape recycle operations. * Perform tape relabel operations. * Perform daily checklists. * Monitor tape media quotas and perform tasks to manage quotas. * Review auto mail lists for faults and perform intervention work as required. If interested, forward your resume and call Darryl Coburn ASAP @ 630-573-5050. Darryl Coburn 630-573-5050 ext. 340 office 708-767-6367 cell Sr. Manager Cemco Systems www.cemcosystems.com -------------- next part -------------- -- Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Announcements Mailing List http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni-announce From jeff at cpsit.com Fri Nov 2 11:52:18 2007 From: jeff at cpsit.com (Jeff Williams) Date: Fri Nov 2 14:05:22 2007 Subject: [LUNI] LINUX application support roles In-Reply-To: <007601c81ccb$595460e0$4500a8c0@cemco.com> Message-ID: <08DC1114AFABD146AB416C0A4D79A6CBEA833E@CPSMAIN.cps4jobs.com> We have 3 full time roles available for Linux Application Support Specialists. The responsibilities include: providing support for applications and networks used by the traders and end-users. We are looking for individuals with solid Linux skills and SQL skills. This person will diagnose problems and should have 1st and 2nd level support experience. Other duties include configurations, installations, monitoring and support of trading applications, product rollouts and testing. The salary levels vary ($50,000 to $85,000) depending on your level of experience. These firms also offer excellent benefit and bonus programs (10% -20%). Please call with any questions. Thank you, Jeff Williams Manager CPS I.T. 708-531-8377 jeff@cpsit.com From mswier at yahoo.com Sat Nov 3 21:07:36 2007 From: mswier at yahoo.com (Mike Swier) Date: Sat Nov 3 22:14:31 2007 Subject: [LUNI] ANN: NWCLUG's next meeting 11/6/07 - F127 Message-ID: <215591.27546.qm@web57011.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Hi, NWCLUG's next meeting will be at Harper College in F127 at 7pm on Tuesday 11/6/07. For (a bit) more info see http://nwclug.org/httpd/html/meetings.html#nextmtg mikie -------------- next part -------------- -- Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Announcements Mailing List http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni-announce From draggor at gmail.com Sun Nov 4 03:57:27 2007 From: draggor at gmail.com (Draggor) Date: Sun Nov 4 02:57:32 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Linux Fest! Message-ID: <357b81470711040157g4c155646mbad3907379d23ca7@mail.gmail.com> Just sending out a reminder that today is DePaul Linux Community's Linux Fest! Come ask questions about linux, get help with installing, updating, or come to help others out! Show off anything cool you've found, or come to just hang out. We're going to be serving free lunch and dinner, with cake and ice cream for dessert for dinner! We're in the Multi Purpose Room of the Lincoln Park Student Center, room 120 A and B, starting at Noon and going until 11:00 pm. Questions? Comments? Either respond to this or email me direct! ~Ross Davidson, DLC President From svbechtolsheim at yahoo.com Sun Nov 4 07:52:56 2007 From: svbechtolsheim at yahoo.com (Stephan V Bechtolsheim) Date: Sun Nov 4 09:53:29 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Contracting out Message-ID: <917562.89091.qm@web51608.mail.re2.yahoo.com> I have the opportunity of doing some consulting (computer related - let's leave it at that for now). I need someone to help me with that. On top of that I have tons of little projects that I work privately on and that I need help with. One of those projects, for instance, involves doing some patent related search. There is some Linux work, including some Perl and PHP code to write, etc. etc. I am currently writing a summary of all those projects. Yes - I will pay for the work, of course! I am willing to pay a reasonable amount of money (and I also do not know at this point in time what that really means - something else I need to figure out). I am a senior IT person and so I know like everywhere else: you get what you pay for. Any suggestions of how to go about that? I would like to have this done locally for the simple reason that I want to meet the person that will do my work, not just initially but also on an ongoing basis. I think breakfasts are the best form of project meetings .... Lunches and dinners quality too. I live in the Schaumburg area, as an FYI. Thank you for your help. StvB From jason at hostedlabs.com Wed Nov 7 14:07:21 2007 From: jason at hostedlabs.com (Jason Rexilius) Date: Wed Nov 7 14:52:40 2007 Subject: [LUNI] BARcamp Updates Message-ID: <47321AF9.2050800@hostedlabs.com> Hi Everyone! So its been a while since BARcamp Chicago 2007 and wanted to update everyone on a bunch of stuff.. OK, so first, Keith Schacht of ChicagoBeta/JobCoin/Facebook App fame had set up a free public job board for ChicagoBeta and BARcamp Chicago communities. There have been a few postings there (including a few from my company ;-) ) and wanted to let everyone know that its free to all and available. Check it out, post your jobs, etc.: http://barcampbeta.jobcoin.com/ Next up, we have some very cool events coming up this month. These are great places to meet other start-ups, smart people and, do as I do, get drunk off of free booze.. ;-) Thu Nov 8th 8:00am - Early Stage Marketplace: http://www.chicagolandchamber.org/sub/event_calendar_detail.asp?EVE_ID=930 Thu Nov 8th 5pm - Songza Launch Party (Aza and Humanized gang presented at BARcamp): http://www.songza.com/ Tue Nov 13th 6:15pm - MIT-EF Breakthrough Computer Interfaces (Aza again.. man he gets around ;-) ): http://www.mitefchicago.org/dojo/18/v.jsp?p=/home Thu Nov 15th 6:30pm - The great TECHcocktail 6! (bet you Aza will be there): http://www.techcocktail.com/blog/ Also, thanks to Henry Lee of Transwestern, we may have a very good venue for BARcamp next year. Connect with me or the BARcamp organizer list at LUNI to get involved! Lastly, I wanted to get feedback from all of you on something a lot of people asked for in the past. Should we have 2 BARcamps a year, spring and fall, rather than 1 in the summer? Email me back with a vote or thoughts. How many BARcamps per year? 1 or 2? Looking forward to seeing you all soon and hope this years been great for everyone! -jason From harper.sean at gmail.com Wed Nov 7 14:46:35 2007 From: harper.sean at gmail.com (Sean Harper) Date: Wed Nov 7 16:32:46 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Re: [PlanBARcamp] BARcamp Updates In-Reply-To: <47321AF9.2050800@hostedlabs.com> References: <47321AF9.2050800@hostedlabs.com> Message-ID: <11ad307a0711071246i266dc98eq6dcae72223a185af@mail.gmail.com> Another opensource / tech community event that may be of interest to many of you coming up on 12/6 - http://ignite-chicago.org/ On Nov 7, 2007 2:07 PM, Jason Rexilius wrote: > Hi Everyone! > > So its been a while since BARcamp Chicago 2007 and wanted to update > everyone on a bunch of stuff.. > > OK, so first, Keith Schacht of ChicagoBeta/JobCoin/Facebook App fame > had set up a free public job board for ChicagoBeta and BARcamp Chicago > communities. There have been a few postings there (including a few from > my company ;-) ) and wanted to let everyone know that its free to all > and available. Check it out, post your jobs, etc.: > > http://barcampbeta.jobcoin.com/ > > > Next up, we have some very cool events coming up this month. These > are great places to meet other start-ups, smart people and, do as I do, > get drunk off of free booze.. ;-) > > Thu Nov 8th 8:00am - Early Stage Marketplace: > http://www.chicagolandchamber.org/sub/event_calendar_detail.asp?EVE_ID=930 > > Thu Nov 8th 5pm - Songza Launch Party (Aza and Humanized gang presented > at BARcamp): > http://www.songza.com/ > > Tue Nov 13th 6:15pm - MIT-EF Breakthrough Computer Interfaces (Aza > again.. man he gets around ;-) ): > http://www.mitefchicago.org/dojo/18/v.jsp?p=/home > > Thu Nov 15th 6:30pm - The great TECHcocktail 6! (bet you Aza will be there): > http://www.techcocktail.com/blog/ > > > Also, thanks to Henry Lee of Transwestern, we may have a very good > venue for BARcamp next year. Connect with me or the BARcamp organizer > list at LUNI to get involved! > > > Lastly, I wanted to get feedback from all of you on something a lot > of people asked for in the past. Should we have 2 BARcamps a year, > spring and fall, rather than 1 in the summer? > > Email me back with a vote or thoughts. How many BARcamps per year? 1 or 2? > > Looking forward to seeing you all soon and hope this years been great > for everyone! > > -jason > _______________________________________________ > PlanBARcamp mailing list > PlanBARcamp@luni.org > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/planbarcamp > From mscott at pyewacket.org Fri Nov 9 12:25:07 2007 From: mscott at pyewacket.org (Mike Scott) Date: Fri Nov 9 13:25:15 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Skynet military launch is delayed Message-ID: <20071109122507.6095274834031e3691077dcdffae0724.25a79f1e39.wbe@email.secureserver.net> This is frightening. Skynet military launch is delayed By Jonathan Amos Science reporter, BBC News, Kourou http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7087910.stm If you recall, "Skynet" was the military network from "The Terminator" series that achieved sentience and killed all the humans. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skynet_(fictional) http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0088247/ - Mike Scott From dbt at meat.net Fri Nov 9 13:47:42 2007 From: dbt at meat.net (David Terrell) Date: Fri Nov 9 13:47:45 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Skynet military launch is delayed In-Reply-To: <20071109122507.6095274834031e3691077dcdffae0724.25a79f1e39.wbe@email.secureserver.net> References: <20071109122507.6095274834031e3691077dcdffae0724.25a79f1e39.wbe@email.secureserver.net> Message-ID: <20071109194742.GG28828@sphinx.chicagopeoplez.org> On Fri, Nov 09, 2007 at 12:25:07PM -0700, Mike Scott wrote: > This is frightening. > > Skynet military launch is delayed > By Jonathan Amos > Science reporter, BBC News, Kourou > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7087910.stm > > If you recall, "Skynet" was the military network from "The Terminator" > series that achieved sentience and killed all the humans. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skynet_(fictional) > http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0088247/ If you look carefully, you'll see the word "fictional" there. Did you know that in RUR, the Robots kill all the humans? And yet people use these dangerous "robots" to build cars every day! zomg! -- David Terrell dbt@meat.net ((meatspace)) http://meat.net/ From r_a_smith3530 at sbcglobal.net Fri Nov 9 11:56:16 2007 From: r_a_smith3530 at sbcglobal.net (Robert Smith) Date: Fri Nov 9 13:56:39 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Skynet military launch is delayed In-Reply-To: <20071109122507.6095274834031e3691077dcdffae0724.25a79f1e39.wbe@email.secureserver.net> Message-ID: <945539.62239.qm@web81301.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Alright, what is frightening, that it is delayed, that it exists, or that the linked article seemed to have no Linux/Open Source related content? Just curious. ;-) Rob Smith +++++ Sent from a laptop running Debian GNU/Linux www.debian.org +++++ --- Mike Scott wrote: > This is frightening. > > Skynet military launch is delayed > By Jonathan Amos > Science reporter, BBC News, Kourou > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7087910.stm > > If you recall, "Skynet" was the military network > from "The Terminator" > series that achieved sentience and killed all the > humans. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skynet_(fictional) > http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0088247/ > > - Mike Scott > > > -- > Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical > Discussion > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni > From skie at dragonsvalley.com Fri Nov 9 14:02:34 2007 From: skie at dragonsvalley.com (Branko Kotur) Date: Fri Nov 9 14:00:00 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Skynet military launch is delayed In-Reply-To: <20071109122507.6095274834031e3691077dcdffae0724.25a79f1e39.wbe@email.secureserver.net> References: <20071109122507.6095274834031e3691077dcdffae0724.25a79f1e39.wbe@email.secureserver.net> Message-ID: <200711091402.34525.skie@dragonsvalley.com> On Friday 09 November 2007 1:25:07 pm Mike Scott wrote: > This is frightening. > > Skynet military launch is delayed > By Jonathan Amos > Science reporter, BBC News, Kourou > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7087910.stm > > If you recall, "Skynet" was the military network from "The Terminator" > series that achieved sentience and killed all the humans. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skynet_(fictional) > http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0088247/ > > - Mike Scott I don't think we need to worry. If anything happens, we just need to call Governator Schwarzenegger and he'll take care of any killer robots. From luni at pyewacket.org Fri Nov 9 16:33:47 2007 From: luni at pyewacket.org (Mike Scott) Date: Fri Nov 9 17:33:55 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Skynet military launch is delayed Message-ID: <20071109163347.6095274834031e3691077dcdffae0724.cf35086ea9.wbe@email.secureserver.net> Sorry, I didn't intend to include luni in that mailing. Whip me, beat me, make me use Windows! - Mike Scott > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: [LUNI] Skynet military launch is delayed > From: Robert Smith > Date: Fri, November 09, 2007 1:56 pm > To: Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > > > > Alright, what is frightening, that it is delayed, that > it exists, or that the linked article seemed to have > no Linux/Open Source related content? > > Just curious. ;-) > > Rob Smith > +++++ > Sent from a laptop running Debian GNU/Linux > www.debian.org > +++++ > > --- Mike Scott wrote: > > > This is frightening. > > > > Skynet military launch is delayed > > By Jonathan Amos > > Science reporter, BBC News, Kourou > > > > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7087910.stm > > > > If you recall, "Skynet" was the military network > > from "The Terminator" > > series that achieved sentience and killed all the > > humans. > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skynet_(fictional) > > http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0088247/ > > > > - Mike Scott > > > > > > -- > > Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical > > Discussion > > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni > > > > -- > Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni From svbechtolsheim at yahoo.com Fri Nov 9 15:51:17 2007 From: svbechtolsheim at yahoo.com (Stephan V Bechtolsheim) Date: Fri Nov 9 17:58:04 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Skynet military launch is delayed Message-ID: <850089.45545.qm@web51612.mail.re2.yahoo.com> I enjoyed it. > Sorry, I didn't intend to include luni in that mailing. StvB From dabenesch at sbcglobal.net Sat Nov 10 06:24:01 2007 From: dabenesch at sbcglobal.net (Donald Benesch) Date: Sat Nov 10 08:24:20 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Skynet military launch is delayed In-Reply-To: <20071109122507.6095274834031e3691077dcdffae0724.25a79f1e39.wbe@email.secureserver.net> Message-ID: <288268.73299.qm@web81113.mail.mud.yahoo.com> But as asked, what makes it frightening? Don Mike Scott wrote: This is frightening. Skynet military launch is delayed By Jonathan Amos Science reporter, BBC News, Kourou http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7087910.stm If you recall, "Skynet" was the military network from "The Terminator" series that achieved sentience and killed all the humans. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skynet_(fictional) http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0088247/ - Mike Scott -- Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni From weigell1 at comcast.net Sat Nov 10 17:44:18 2007 From: weigell1 at comcast.net (weigell1@comcast.net) Date: Sat Nov 10 11:44:38 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Skynet military launch is delayed Message-ID: <111020071744.16816.4735EDF20009F953000041B02206999735CE04040A09070A99@comcast.net> Hello Rob, I was wondering if you have ever worked at Motorola? I worked with a Bob Smith and was wondering if you were he. Best regards, Larry Weigel -- "The only real valuable thing is intuition." - A. Einstein -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Robert Smith > Alright, what is frightening, that it is delayed, that > it exists, or that the linked article seemed to have > no Linux/Open Source related content? > > Just curious. ;-) > > Rob Smith > +++++ > Sent from a laptop running Debian GNU/Linux > www.debian.org > +++++ > > --- Mike Scott wrote: > > > This is frightening. > > > > Skynet military launch is delayed > > By Jonathan Amos > > Science reporter, BBC News, Kourou > > > > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7087910.stm > > > > If you recall, "Skynet" was the military network > > from "The Terminator" > > series that achieved sentience and killed all the > > humans. > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skynet_(fictional) > > http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0088247/ > > > > - Mike Scott > > > > > > -- > > Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical > > Discussion > > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni > > > > -- > Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni From r_a_smith3530 at sbcglobal.net Sat Nov 10 13:44:21 2007 From: r_a_smith3530 at sbcglobal.net (Robert Smith) Date: Sat Nov 10 13:44:15 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Skynet military launch is delayed Message-ID: <200711101944.lAAJiDT2008823@null.sevatech.com> Yes, I did previously work at Motorola until just recently. I was in the NPI/Premiere Tech Support Group for Mobile Devices in Schaumburg. Robert Smith Dona Nobis Pacem +++++ Sent from a Motorola Q www.motorola.com +++++ -----Original Message----- From: weigell1@comcast.net To: "Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion" Sent: 11/10/2007 11:44 AM Subject: Re: [LUNI] Skynet military launch is delayed Hello Rob, I was wondering if you have ever worked at Motorola? I worked with a Bob Smith and was wondering if you were he. Best regards, Larry Weigel -- "The only real valuable thing is intuition." - A. Einstein -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Robert Smith [truncated by sender] From mscott at pyewacket.org Sat Nov 10 13:35:55 2007 From: mscott at pyewacket.org (Mike Scott) Date: Sat Nov 10 14:36:03 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Skynet military launch is delayed Message-ID: <20071110133555.6095274834031e3691077dcdffae0724.f7df767847.wbe@email.secureserver.net> Well, in the Terminator, Arnold came back from the future. A future where Skynet became sentient and destroyed the human race. The frightening part is, what if this is THAT Skynet? Just stupid free-association on a boring Friday, scanning the RSS feeds. :-) - Mike Scott > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: [LUNI] Skynet military launch is delayed > From: Donald Benesch > Date: Sat, November 10, 2007 8:24 am > To: Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > > > > But as asked, what makes it frightening? > Don > > Mike Scott wrote: This is frightening. > > Skynet military launch is delayed > By Jonathan Amos > Science reporter, BBC News, Kourou > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7087910.stm > > If you recall, "Skynet" was the military network from "The Terminator" > series that achieved sentience and killed all the humans. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skynet_(fictional) > http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0088247/ > > - Mike Scott > > > -- > Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni > > -- > Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni From weigell1 at comcast.net Sun Nov 11 04:50:25 2007 From: weigell1 at comcast.net (weigell1@comcast.net) Date: Sat Nov 10 22:50:33 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Skynet military launch is delayed Message-ID: <111120070450.20682.47368A10000F1E6E000050CA2200745672CE04040A09070A99@comcast.net> Rob, Did you know Dan McGrory or work on the Arlington Hts campus? I worked with Jim Weger / ST3 in ITS. Best regards, Larry Weigel -- "The only real valuable thing is intuition." - A. Einstein -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Robert Smith > Yes, I did previously work at Motorola until just recently. I was in the > NPI/Premiere Tech Support Group for Mobile Devices in Schaumburg. > > Robert Smith > Dona Nobis Pacem > +++++ > Sent from a Motorola Q > www.motorola.com > +++++ > > -----Original Message----- > From: weigell1@comcast.net > To: "Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion" > Sent: 11/10/2007 11:44 AM > Subject: Re: [LUNI] Skynet military launch is delayed > > > Hello Rob, > I was wondering if you have ever worked at Motorola? I worked with a Bob Smith > and was wondering if you were he. > > Best regards, > Larry Weigel > > -- > "The only real valuable thing is intuition." > - A. Einstein > > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > From: Robert Smith > > [truncated by sender] > > -- > Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni From janegrote1975 at yahoo.com Fri Nov 9 20:12:40 2007 From: janegrote1975 at yahoo.com (Jane Grote) Date: Sun Nov 11 21:12:14 2007 Subject: [LUNI] ANN: Linux Jobs Message-ID: <15654.17988.qm@web44906.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Hi all. I saw this job and wanted to post it. To coordinate the efforts of assigned Linux Systems Administrators and act as a technical lead Hostway Corporation is a recognized leader in Web hosting industry, serving over 400,000 customers worldwide with 7 international offices. Due to our continued growth, we are seeking a Lead Linux Systems Administrator join our System?s Group in Chicago. Responsibilities: Analyze and resolve advanced problems associated with server hardware, UNIX application software and escalated customer problems, facilitate maintenance operations, performance and capacity planning, disk space management, system documentation and procedures and other operations specific responsibilities as needed May be called on to communicate with criminal investigative organizations as necessary, attend strategy meetings and communicate system changes to other departments Provide weekly status reports detailing completed projects and any issues affecting operations, provide other metrics as required Assume the role of technical lead which shall include delegation of tasks, management of projects and outages as well as provide technical assistance to assigned System Administrators Help develop tools to monitor systems performance Optimization and tuning of various systems. You will be spending about 10% of your time on management. You will be leading mostly by example Qualifications: Bachelor's degree in computer science, management information systems, or similar technical discipline, or an equivalent combination of education and experience (4 years). Advanced familiarity with system administration on several variants of UNIX, including, but not limited to, Linux, Solaris, AIX, and BSDi. Advanced skill to diagnose and remedy serious UNIX-related problems and/or failures promptly and effectively. Advanced ability to perform periodic software and hardware system updates, upgrades, backups and security patches Desire and patience to work with other members of the staff to fix and improve existing services as well as add new ones. Ability to install, configure, optimize and maintain network services including but not limited to Apache, Bind, Sendmail and FTP Experience with Shell scripting, PERL or C is required Working knowledge of SQL, LDAP required Strong organizational and communication skills Must be available for on-call duties Desired Minimunm Qualifications: BS in Computer Science preferred but not required. Minimum 3 years experience serving in a Senior Administrator capacity. Physical Requiremants: Flexible work hours a must. Days of week TBD. On-call availability required. To be considered, email your resume including salary requirements to careers@hostway.com. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Announcements Mailing List http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni-announce From kjc at thesiregroup.com Fri Nov 9 06:06:45 2007 From: kjc at thesiregroup.com (karen chiappetta) Date: Sun Nov 11 21:12:17 2007 Subject: [LUNI] ANN: Can you refer.................. Message-ID: <984043.85362.qm@web1009.biz.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Good morning. I am trying to get my arms around the LINUX resources in Chicago and was hoping you would take pity on me and direct me. I have a fantastic job opportunity for someone in the northwest suburbs - not quite sure how to get out the word. Can you offer a suggestion? I have been retained by a Fortune 100 nationally acclaimed pioneering innovator firm in the Chicago suburbs to secure a Senior Manager, Distributed Platforms for their organization. Their goal of continuous improvement has ushered in a company-wide transformation era. This person will own all Linux implementation activity across the enterprise. This is a choice employer for individuals looking to find a home and be recognized as impact players. The ideal candidate has managed Unix System Engineer?s in the past. With 40 direct reports, this person will need to be skilled in both technical and management disciplines. Must have 8+ years experience providing Unix ? HP UX and IBM AIX/Linux support with server applications including Microsoft SQL Server and Microsoft Exchange 2003. Experience in 7 X 24 high availability, 15,000+ user environment critical. You will own solution architecting, implementation and production support resources. This is a high profile position with an outstanding compensation and benefits package. Any suggestion? I so appreciate he consideration. Best, Karen Chiappetta The Sire Group, LTD. 'Securing Exceptional Human Capital' 630-833-6869 www.TheSireGroup.com -------------- next part -------------- -- Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Announcements Mailing List http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni-announce From kgarner at kgarner.com Sun Nov 11 21:14:16 2007 From: kgarner at kgarner.com (Keith T. Garner) Date: Sun Nov 11 21:14:35 2007 Subject: [LUNI] ANN: [ADMIN] My apologies Message-ID: <4737C508.1020603@kgarner.com> To luni-announcers, I was distracted while doing list moderation and let job listings through announce when they should only go through the main list. I'll try to be more focused in the future. Keith -- Keith T. Garner kgarner@kgarner.com "Make no little plans; they have no magic to stir men's blood." - Daniel H. Burnham -- Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Announcements Mailing List http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni-announce From seva at sevatech.com Tue Nov 13 13:58:16 2007 From: seva at sevatech.com (Seva Epsteyn) Date: Tue Nov 13 13:58:22 2007 Subject: [LUNI] web forum/mailing list fusion Message-ID: Does anyone have any suggestions for a web forum with mailing list functionality or, I guess, mailing list with web forum functionality. I think it would be neat for LUNI to have web accessible forum as well as mailing list, but it would be rather annoying if the two had different content. Any suggestions? -Seva From dbt at meat.net Tue Nov 13 14:23:13 2007 From: dbt at meat.net (David Terrell) Date: Tue Nov 13 14:23:16 2007 Subject: [LUNI] web forum/mailing list fusion In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20071113202313.GR28828@sphinx.chicagopeoplez.org> On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 01:58:16PM -0600, Seva Epsteyn wrote: > Does anyone have any suggestions for a web forum with mailing list > functionality or, I guess, mailing list with web forum functionality. > > I think it would be neat for LUNI to have web accessible forum as well as > mailing list, but it would be rather annoying if the two had different > content. there's vbulletin, but I don't know if you can post to it from email. And I hate it, but that's just me. I like mailing lists. -- David Terrell dbt@meat.net ((meatspace)) http://meat.net/ From luni at pyewacket.org Tue Nov 13 13:32:36 2007 From: luni at pyewacket.org (Mike Scott) Date: Tue Nov 13 14:32:45 2007 Subject: [LUNI] sendmail configuration question Message-ID: <20071113133236.6095274834031e3691077dcdffae0724.3231c87a95.wbe@email.secureserver.net> I have an old 'Hat 7.3 server that reports the status of various cronjobs by sending me email (I alias the root account to my main email account). The problem is that I am having trouble getting email through due to spam filtering. I was wondering if it would help if I use my ISPs email server (smtp.mail.wowway.com) as an MX relay. I would even be willing to change the from address to be my WOW mailbox. The trouble is I don't know enough about the sendmail setup to do this with comfort. Can somebody point me to the strings I need to set in the sendmail config file. - Mike Scott From skie at dragonsvalley.com Tue Nov 13 14:44:00 2007 From: skie at dragonsvalley.com (Branko Kotur) Date: Tue Nov 13 14:40:40 2007 Subject: [LUNI] web forum/mailing list fusion In-Reply-To: <20071113202313.GR28828@sphinx.chicagopeoplez.org> References: <20071113202313.GR28828@sphinx.chicagopeoplez.org> Message-ID: <200711131444.01030.skie@dragonsvalley.com> On Tuesday 13 November 2007 2:23:13 pm David Terrell wrote: > there's vbulletin, but I don't know if you can post to it from email. > > And I hate it, but that's just me. I like mailing lists. > I'm not aware of vBulletin having this type of functionality. At least not by default. There may be a mod that does this, but it's not something I've looked for before. From seva at sevatech.com Tue Nov 13 14:43:52 2007 From: seva at sevatech.com (Seva Epsteyn) Date: Tue Nov 13 14:43:54 2007 Subject: [LUNI] sendmail configuration question In-Reply-To: <20071113133236.6095274834031e3691077dcdffae0724.3231c87a95.wbe@email.secureserver.net> References: <20071113133236.6095274834031e3691077dcdffae0724.3231c87a95.wbe@email.secureserver.net> Message-ID: Mike, I would imagine your ISP requires SMTP AUTH or POP3 login before allowing you to send mail? But you can try this if you want: 1. Install (or verify that it's installed) sendmail-cf apt-get install sendmail-cf or yum install sendmail-cf assuming you have apt-get or yum setup. 2. Edit /etc/mail/sendmail.mc: dnl # Uncomment and edit the following line if your outgoing mail needs to dnl # be sent out through an external mail server: dnl # dnl define(`SMART_HOST',`smtp.your.provider') Remove dnl (delete to newline) from the define and add your SMTP server. 3. make -C /etc/mail 4. service sendmail restart Do you know exactly what is triggering the spam mark? I am going to guess that a) above is not going to work w/out SMTP AUTH of some sort and b) if it does it's not going to help because the mail is getting marked as spam for a different reason (like IP doesn't resolve?) You can also try setting MAILTO="your@email.address" in the crontab, perhaps the spam check doesn't like that To: is root@random.host vs your actual email address? -Seva On Tue, 13 Nov 2007, Mike Scott wrote: > I have an old 'Hat 7.3 server that reports the status of various > cronjobs by sending me email (I alias the root account to my main email > account). The problem is that I am having trouble getting email through > due to spam filtering. > > I was wondering if it would help if I use my ISPs email server > (smtp.mail.wowway.com) as an MX relay. > I would even be willing to change the from address to be my WOW mailbox. > The trouble is I don't know enough about the sendmail setup to do this > with comfort. > Can somebody point me to the strings I need to set in the sendmail > config file. > > - Mike Scott > > > From seva at sevatech.com Tue Nov 13 14:44:35 2007 From: seva at sevatech.com (Seva Epsteyn) Date: Tue Nov 13 14:44:37 2007 Subject: [LUNI] web forum/mailing list fusion In-Reply-To: <20071113202313.GR28828@sphinx.chicagopeoplez.org> References: <20071113202313.GR28828@sphinx.chicagopeoplez.org> Message-ID: > there's vbulletin, but I don't know if you can post to it from email. > > And I hate it, but that's just me. I like mailing lists. I just found this http://interreality.org/phorum/read.php?4,89 Trying to figure out what was involved in that setup. -Seva From fixedored at gmail.com Tue Nov 13 12:58:38 2007 From: fixedored at gmail.com (Jeff D) Date: Tue Nov 13 14:59:06 2007 Subject: [LUNI] web forum/mailing list fusion In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <473A0FFE.7060500@gmail.com> Seva Epsteyn wrote: > Does anyone have any suggestions for a web forum with mailing list > functionality or, I guess, mailing list with web forum functionality. > > I think it would be neat for LUNI to have web accessible forum as well as > mailing list, but it would be rather annoying if the two had different > content. > > Any suggestions? > > -Seva FUDForums does this: http://fudforum.org/features.php From seva at sevatech.com Tue Nov 13 15:11:06 2007 From: seva at sevatech.com (Seva Epsteyn) Date: Tue Nov 13 15:11:10 2007 Subject: [LUNI] sendmail configuration question In-Reply-To: References: <20071113133236.6095274834031e3691077dcdffae0724.3231c87a95.wbe@email.secureserver.net> Message-ID: Mike, One more thing, you can install postfix for RHL 7.3 from http://freshrpms.net if that makes things easier and you don't have a complex existing sendmail setup. -Seva On Tue, 13 Nov 2007, Seva Epsteyn wrote: > Mike, > > I would imagine your ISP requires SMTP AUTH or POP3 login before allowing > you to send mail? But you can try this if you want: > > 1. Install (or verify that it's installed) sendmail-cf > > apt-get install sendmail-cf > or > yum install sendmail-cf > assuming you have apt-get or yum setup. > > 2. Edit /etc/mail/sendmail.mc: > > dnl # Uncomment and edit the following line if your outgoing mail needs to > dnl # be sent out through an external mail server: > dnl # > dnl define(`SMART_HOST',`smtp.your.provider') > > Remove dnl (delete to newline) from the define and add your SMTP server. > > 3. make -C /etc/mail > > 4. service sendmail restart > > Do you know exactly what is triggering the spam mark? I am going to guess > that a) above is not going to work w/out SMTP AUTH of some sort and b) if > it does it's not going to help because the mail is getting marked as spam > for a different reason (like IP doesn't resolve?) > > You can also try setting MAILTO="your@email.address" in the crontab, > perhaps the spam check doesn't like that To: is root@random.host vs your > actual email address? > > -Seva > > On Tue, 13 Nov 2007, Mike Scott wrote: > > > I have an old 'Hat 7.3 server that reports the status of various > > cronjobs by sending me email (I alias the root account to my main email > > account). The problem is that I am having trouble getting email through > > due to spam filtering. > > > > I was wondering if it would help if I use my ISPs email server > > (smtp.mail.wowway.com) as an MX relay. > > I would even be willing to change the from address to be my WOW mailbox. > > The trouble is I don't know enough about the sendmail setup to do this > > with comfort. > > Can somebody point me to the strings I need to set in the sendmail > > config file. > > > > - Mike Scott > > > > > > > From sfaci at cs.uic.edu Tue Nov 13 15:21:11 2007 From: sfaci at cs.uic.edu (Samir Faci) Date: Tue Nov 13 15:21:19 2007 Subject: [LUNI] sendmail configuration question In-Reply-To: References: <20071113133236.6095274834031e3691077dcdffae0724.3231c87a95.wbe@email.secureserver.net> Message-ID: <9db93b0e0711131321j2e2d902cp3d4a0f55abe8095d@mail.gmail.com> I'd also suggest simply upgrading. RHL 7.3 is bound to have a ridiculous list of vulnerabilities by now. ditto on the postfix. I never really tried to get sendmail to working, but from everything I've heard it's a sadistic exercise anyways. -- Samir On 11/13/07, Seva Epsteyn wrote: > > Mike, > > One more thing, you can install postfix for RHL 7.3 from > http://freshrpms.net if that makes things easier and you don't have a > complex existing sendmail setup. > > -Seva > > On Tue, 13 Nov 2007, Seva Epsteyn wrote: > > > Mike, > > > > I would imagine your ISP requires SMTP AUTH or POP3 login before > allowing > > you to send mail? But you can try this if you want: > > > > 1. Install (or verify that it's installed) sendmail-cf > > > > apt-get install sendmail-cf > > or > > yum install sendmail-cf > > assuming you have apt-get or yum setup. > > > > 2. Edit /etc/mail/sendmail.mc: > > > > dnl # Uncomment and edit the following line if your outgoing mail needs > to > > dnl # be sent out through an external mail server: > > dnl # > > dnl define(`SMART_HOST',`smtp.your.provider') > > > > Remove dnl (delete to newline) from the define and add your SMTP server. > > > > 3. make -C /etc/mail > > > > 4. service sendmail restart > > > > Do you know exactly what is triggering the spam mark? I am going to > guess > > that a) above is not going to work w/out SMTP AUTH of some sort and b) > if > > it does it's not going to help because the mail is getting marked as > spam > > for a different reason (like IP doesn't resolve?) > > > > You can also try setting MAILTO="your@email.address" in the crontab, > > perhaps the spam check doesn't like that To: is root@random.host vs your > > actual email address? > > > > -Seva > > > > On Tue, 13 Nov 2007, Mike Scott wrote: > > > > > I have an old 'Hat 7.3 server that reports the status of various > > > cronjobs by sending me email (I alias the root account to my main > email > > > account). The problem is that I am having trouble getting email > through > > > due to spam filtering. > > > > > > I was wondering if it would help if I use my ISPs email server > > > (smtp.mail.wowway.com) as an MX relay. > > > I would even be willing to change the from address to be my WOW > mailbox. > > > The trouble is I don't know enough about the sendmail setup to do this > > > with comfort. > > > Can somebody point me to the strings I need to set in the sendmail > > > config file. > > > > > > - Mike Scott > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni > From sfaci at cs.uic.edu Tue Nov 13 15:26:12 2007 From: sfaci at cs.uic.edu (Samir Faci) Date: Tue Nov 13 15:26:22 2007 Subject: [LUNI] web forum/mailing list fusion In-Reply-To: <473A0FFE.7060500@gmail.com> References: <473A0FFE.7060500@gmail.com> Message-ID: <9db93b0e0711131326i72a5d885x3f57b7b911e5d756@mail.gmail.com> I'm not sure more you'll get out of have a forum + a mailing list that's not already achieved by mailman + archives. anytime I've seen orgs have a mailing list + a forum one gets used and the ohter ignored. I also thing it'll be difficult to combine the two, nor have I seen anything that does it with any degree of success. Think about it, you post an email on Linux->Server Issues->help me fix sendmail what most forums will do is send you an email notification that someone replied to your thread (which means, i have to delete an email and click on a link to get the same email I would have just had to click read. ... or it emails you the content of the post, in which case it's just a mailing list. ) I don't know.. up to you guys, but I think you may end up spending way too much time/effort into something that's not worth the benefit. just my 2 cents though. -- Samir On 11/13/07, Jeff D wrote: > > Seva Epsteyn wrote: > > Does anyone have any suggestions for a web forum with mailing list > > functionality or, I guess, mailing list with web forum functionality. > > > > I think it would be neat for LUNI to have web accessible forum as well > as > > mailing list, but it would be rather annoying if the two had different > > content. > > > > Any suggestions? > > > > -Seva > > FUDForums does this: > > http://fudforum.org/features.php > -- > Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni > From kgarner at kgarner.com Tue Nov 13 13:32:37 2007 From: kgarner at kgarner.com (Keith T. Garner) Date: Tue Nov 13 15:32:54 2007 Subject: [LUNI] web forum/mailing list fusion In-Reply-To: <20071113202313.GR28828@sphinx.chicagopeoplez.org> References: <20071113202313.GR28828@sphinx.chicagopeoplez.org> Message-ID: <847244F8-FC0D-460A-8BE4-A34FC349DE5D@kgarner.com> You can post to it via e-mail via some scripts. We doing that on forum.rets.org, but its flakey. E-mail is definately a second class citizen in vbull. McKeever can comment on it better as he's been fighting with it. Google groups seems to do it well. Something that had that funtionality wouldn't ne bad. Both the browser and e-mail are on equal footing. Keith -- Keith T. Garner On Nov 13, 2007, at 12:23 PM, David Terrell wrote: > On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 01:58:16PM -0600, Seva Epsteyn wrote: >> Does anyone have any suggestions for a web forum with mailing list >> functionality or, I guess, mailing list with web forum functionality. >> >> I think it would be neat for LUNI to have web accessible forum as >> well as >> mailing list, but it would be rather annoying if the two had >> different >> content. > > there's vbulletin, but I don't know if you can post to it from email. > > And I hate it, but that's just me. I like mailing lists. > > -- > David Terrell > dbt@meat.net > ((meatspace)) http://meat.net/ > -- > Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni From seva at sevatech.com Tue Nov 13 15:45:03 2007 From: seva at sevatech.com (Seva Epsteyn) Date: Tue Nov 13 15:45:05 2007 Subject: [LUNI] web forum/mailing list fusion In-Reply-To: <9db93b0e0711131326i72a5d885x3f57b7b911e5d756@mail.gmail.com> References: <9db93b0e0711131326i72a5d885x3f57b7b911e5d756@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I want to be able to offer people the interface to the _same_ content that they prefer, so if you prefer mailing list you should see no change in how you interact, i.e. post to a mailing list, get mail, reply, etc. If someone prefers the web forum, they should be able to do the same thing with the web forum and not have to care about the mail client. Unless I am missing something (and I generally don't use web forums, so perhaps I am) both can present the same information with different interface. -Seva On Tue, 13 Nov 2007, Samir Faci wrote: > I'm not sure more you'll get out of have a forum + a mailing list that's not > already achieved by mailman + archives. > > anytime I've seen orgs have a mailing list + a forum one gets used and the > ohter ignored. I also thing it'll be difficult to combine the two, nor have > I seen anything that does it with any degree of success. > > Think about it, you post an email on Linux->Server Issues->help me fix > sendmail > > what most forums will do is send you an email notification that someone > replied to your thread (which means, i have to delete an email and click on > a link to get the same email I would have just had to click read. ... or it > emails you the content of the post, in which case it's just a mailing list. > ) > > I don't know.. up to you guys, but I think you may end up spending way too > much time/effort into something that's not worth the benefit. > > just my 2 cents though. > > -- > Samir > > On 11/13/07, Jeff D wrote: > > > > Seva Epsteyn wrote: > > > Does anyone have any suggestions for a web forum with mailing list > > > functionality or, I guess, mailing list with web forum functionality. > > > > > > I think it would be neat for LUNI to have web accessible forum as well > > as > > > mailing list, but it would be rather annoying if the two had different > > > content. > > > > > > Any suggestions? > > > > > > -Seva > > > > FUDForums does this: > > > > http://fudforum.org/features.php > > -- > > Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni > > > From luni at pyewacket.org Tue Nov 13 15:02:10 2007 From: luni at pyewacket.org (Mike Scott) Date: Tue Nov 13 16:02:19 2007 Subject: [LUNI] sendmail configuration question Message-ID: <20071113150210.6095274834031e3691077dcdffae0724.95f0daa019.wbe@email.secureserver.net> Agreed. I am building a new server (probably Ubuntu Server LTS). Also, this server is not exposed to the 'net and is only accessed via SSL through a VPN appliance. I'll look at postfix when I get home. Thanks. - Mike Scott > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: [LUNI] sendmail configuration question > From: "Samir Faci" > Date: Tue, November 13, 2007 3:21 pm > To: "Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion" > > > > I'd also suggest simply upgrading. RHL 7.3 is bound to have a ridiculous > list of vulnerabilities by now. ditto on the postfix. I never really tried > to get sendmail to working, but from everything I've heard it's a sadistic > exercise anyways. > > -- > Samir > > On 11/13/07, Seva Epsteyn wrote: > > > > Mike, > > > > One more thing, you can install postfix for RHL 7.3 from > > http://freshrpms.net if that makes things easier and you don't have a > > complex existing sendmail setup. > > > > -Seva > > > > On Tue, 13 Nov 2007, Seva Epsteyn wrote: > > > > > Mike, > > > > > > I would imagine your ISP requires SMTP AUTH or POP3 login before > > allowing > > > you to send mail? But you can try this if you want: > > > > > > 1. Install (or verify that it's installed) sendmail-cf > > > > > > apt-get install sendmail-cf > > > or > > > yum install sendmail-cf > > > assuming you have apt-get or yum setup. > > > > > > 2. Edit /etc/mail/sendmail.mc: > > > > > > dnl # Uncomment and edit the following line if your outgoing mail needs > > to > > > dnl # be sent out through an external mail server: > > > dnl # > > > dnl define(`SMART_HOST',`smtp.your.provider') > > > > > > Remove dnl (delete to newline) from the define and add your SMTP server. > > > > > > 3. make -C /etc/mail > > > > > > 4. service sendmail restart > > > > > > Do you know exactly what is triggering the spam mark? I am going to > > guess > > > that a) above is not going to work w/out SMTP AUTH of some sort and b) > > if > > > it does it's not going to help because the mail is getting marked as > > spam > > > for a different reason (like IP doesn't resolve?) > > > > > > You can also try setting MAILTO="your@email.address" in the crontab, > > > perhaps the spam check doesn't like that To: is root@random.host vs your > > > actual email address? > > > > > > -Seva > > > > > > On Tue, 13 Nov 2007, Mike Scott wrote: > > > > > > > I have an old 'Hat 7.3 server that reports the status of various > > > > cronjobs by sending me email (I alias the root account to my main > > email > > > > account). The problem is that I am having trouble getting email > > through > > > > due to spam filtering. > > > > > > > > I was wondering if it would help if I use my ISPs email server > > > > (smtp.mail.wowway.com) as an MX relay. > > > > I would even be willing to change the from address to be my WOW > > mailbox. > > > > The trouble is I don't know enough about the sendmail setup to do this > > > > with comfort. > > > > Can somebody point me to the strings I need to set in the sendmail > > > > config file. > > > > > > > > - Mike Scott > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni > > > -- > Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni From mscott at pyewacket.org Tue Nov 13 15:08:42 2007 From: mscott at pyewacket.org (Mike Scott) Date: Tue Nov 13 16:08:51 2007 Subject: [LUNI] sendmail configuration question Message-ID: <20071113150842.6095274834031e3691077dcdffae0724.29ada0680b.wbe@email.secureserver.net> > You can also try setting MAILTO="your@email.address" in the crontab, > perhaps the spam check doesn't like that To: is root@random.host vs your > actual email address? I'm not sure that would help as sending a test email from the command prompt: echo test|mail mscott@wowway.com Also fails. I think is may be the from address doesn't jive with the IP address in reverse DNS lookups. I know DynDNS offers a pay service MX relay to resolve these issues, but I thought that if I could make the sender's domain match my ISPs then it would satisfy it. - Mike Scott From casey at wizkid.homelinux.net Wed Nov 14 12:45:22 2007 From: casey at wizkid.homelinux.net (Casey Cichon) Date: Wed Nov 14 12:45:44 2007 Subject: [LUNI] sendmail configuration question In-Reply-To: <20071113150842.6095274834031e3691077dcdffae0724.29ada0680b.wbe@email.secureserver.net> References: <20071113150842.6095274834031e3691077dcdffae0724.29ada0680b.wbe@email.secureserver.net> Message-ID: <473B4242.8030605@wizkid.homelinux.net> Mike Scott wrote: >> You can also try setting MAILTO="your@email.address" in the crontab, >> perhaps the spam check doesn't like that To: is root@random.host vs your >> actual email address? > > I'm not sure that would help as sending a test email from the command > prompt: > > echo test|mail mscott@wowway.com > > Also fails. I think is may be the from address doesn't jive with the IP > address in reverse DNS lookups. You have to put your authentication into the sendmail.cf stuff. I used http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Sendmail-Address-Rewrite.html, i think (it was a long time ago). To make all my casey@wizkid.homelinux.net stuff think it came from Comcast (now i do it for AT&T). Casey > I know DynDNS offers a pay service MX relay to resolve these issues, but > I thought that if I could make the sender's domain match my ISPs then it > would satisfy it. > > - Mike Scott > From sfaci at cs.uic.edu Wed Nov 14 13:08:37 2007 From: sfaci at cs.uic.edu (Samir Faci) Date: Wed Nov 14 13:08:46 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Vista Video Message-ID: <9db93b0e0711141108k65fce669h348c017895dc6cf9@mail.gmail.com> http://www.metacafe.com/watch/857874/vista_true_info/ Some people may have seen this before, but just a nice little tidbit. -- Samir From luni at pyewacket.org Fri Nov 16 07:31:14 2007 From: luni at pyewacket.org (Mike Scott) Date: Fri Nov 16 08:31:24 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Heckuva deal Message-ID: <20071116073114.6095274834031e3691077dcdffae0724.50a63a7470.wbe@email.secureserver.net> http://tinyurl.com/yqaq6k This would make a nice system for a firewall / VPN server, or a cool desktop system (just add Linux) $150 for Socket AM2 Barebone Kit - AMD Athlon 64 3500+ 2.20GHz OEM, 80GB HDD, 1GB DDR2 PC5400, ATX Mid-Tower Case, 450 Watt Power Supply - Mike Scott From tom at yarrish.com Fri Nov 16 09:49:46 2007 From: tom at yarrish.com (Tom Yarrish) Date: Fri Nov 16 10:07:15 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Heckuva deal In-Reply-To: <20071116073114.6095274834031e3691077dcdffae0724.50a63a7470.wbe@email.secureserver.net> References: <20071116073114.6095274834031e3691077dcdffae0724.50a63a7470.wbe@email.secureserver.net> Message-ID: <4BB8A3EE-91B9-4EA3-A05C-7DEC9F62D5D0@yarrish.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Nov 16, 2007, at 8:31 AM, Mike Scott wrote: > http://tinyurl.com/yqaq6k > > This would make a nice system for a firewall / VPN server, or a cool > desktop system (just add Linux) > $150 for Socket AM2 Barebone Kit - AMD Athlon 64 3500+ 2.20GHz OEM, > 80GB > HDD, 1GB DDR2 PC5400, ATX Mid-Tower Case, 450 Watt Power Supply > > - Mike Scott > > > -- > Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni It's a nice deal, but does anyone else think it's a bit odd that this system doesn't come with a CPU Fan? Tom -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (Darwin) iD8DBQFHPbwaZWzkfeDiTw4RAmM0AJ9/djWuuLHJe6VtmBFSQijxMJJx/QCdHBln Nk716kVNJLDCzQaeky8ACWI= =4Zie -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From tprinty at mail.edisonave.net Fri Nov 16 10:39:17 2007 From: tprinty at mail.edisonave.net (Tom Printy) Date: Fri Nov 16 10:39:31 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Heckuva deal In-Reply-To: <4BB8A3EE-91B9-4EA3-A05C-7DEC9F62D5D0@yarrish.com> References: <20071116073114.6095274834031e3691077dcdffae0724.50a63a7470.wbe@email.secureserver.net> <4BB8A3EE-91B9-4EA3-A05C-7DEC9F62D5D0@yarrish.com> Message-ID: <1195231157.10066.17.camel@localhost> Tiger Direct seems to be selling all their barebone deals without CPU fan. At least now they are highlighting it. -Tom On Fri, 2007-11-16 at 09:49 -0600, Tom Yarrish wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > > On Nov 16, 2007, at 8:31 AM, Mike Scott wrote: > > > http://tinyurl.com/yqaq6k > > > > This would make a nice system for a firewall / VPN server, or a cool > > desktop system (just add Linux) > > $150 for Socket AM2 Barebone Kit - AMD Athlon 64 3500+ 2.20GHz OEM, > > 80GB > > HDD, 1GB DDR2 PC5400, ATX Mid-Tower Case, 450 Watt Power Supply > > > > - Mike Scott > > > > > > -- > > Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni > > > It's a nice deal, but does anyone else think it's a bit odd that this > system doesn't come with a CPU Fan? > > Tom > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (Darwin) > > iD8DBQFHPbwaZWzkfeDiTw4RAmM0AJ9/djWuuLHJe6VtmBFSQijxMJJx/QCdHBln > Nk716kVNJLDCzQaeky8ACWI= > =4Zie > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From tom at yarrish.com Fri Nov 16 11:12:07 2007 From: tom at yarrish.com (Tom Yarrish) Date: Fri Nov 16 11:12:17 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Heckuva deal In-Reply-To: <1195231157.10066.17.camel@localhost> References: <20071116073114.6095274834031e3691077dcdffae0724.50a63a7470.wbe@email.secureserver.net> <4BB8A3EE-91B9-4EA3-A05C-7DEC9F62D5D0@yarrish.com> <1195231157.10066.17.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <7A497429-9EEF-43FA-95A2-60FE34E0B41F@yarrish.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Nov 16, 2007, at 10:39 AM, Tom Printy wrote: > Tiger Direct seems to be selling all their barebone deals without CPU > fan. At least now they are highlighting it. > > -Tom > >> >> It's a nice deal, but does anyone else think it's a bit odd that this >> system doesn't come with a CPU Fan? >> >> Tom >> > -- > Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni Yeah but doesn't the CPU COME with the Fan in it's OEM packaging? I never heard of getting a CPU without the heatsink and fan included. Tom -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (Darwin) iD8DBQFHPc9oZWzkfeDiTw4RApBVAJwIz5146yLolnSA/uBgFrOXASl5oACdGebz FkX6Pgnr4T8Zx1h9F15KSYk= =r3/U -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From maney at two14.net Fri Nov 16 11:33:20 2007 From: maney at two14.net (Martin Maney) Date: Fri Nov 16 11:33:29 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Heckuva deal In-Reply-To: <7A497429-9EEF-43FA-95A2-60FE34E0B41F@yarrish.com> References: <20071116073114.6095274834031e3691077dcdffae0724.50a63a7470.wbe@email.secureserver.net> <4BB8A3EE-91B9-4EA3-A05C-7DEC9F62D5D0@yarrish.com> <1195231157.10066.17.camel@localhost> <7A497429-9EEF-43FA-95A2-60FE34E0B41F@yarrish.com> Message-ID: <20071116173320.GB6985@furrr.two14.net> On Fri, Nov 16, 2007 at 11:12:07AM -0600, Tom Yarrish wrote: > Yeah but doesn't the CPU COME with the Fan in it's OEM packaging? I never > heard of getting a CPU without the heatsink and fan included. That's normal, IME, for OEM CPUs. The heatsink and fan are, after all, what's added in the retail box. -- The phenomenon of financial excess associated with promising novel technologies is a recurring feature of the last two centuries. -- Andrew Odlyzko From seva at sevatech.com Fri Nov 16 11:59:21 2007 From: seva at sevatech.com (Seva Epsteyn) Date: Fri Nov 16 11:59:23 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Heckuva deal In-Reply-To: <20071116073114.6095274834031e3691077dcdffae0724.50a63a7470.wbe@email.secureserver.net> References: <20071116073114.6095274834031e3691077dcdffae0724.50a63a7470.wbe@email.secureserver.net> Message-ID: Not bad, but not as good of a deal as SCO UNIX, FREE Daylight Saving Time Patch http://sco.com/images/homepage/dst_home.jpg As seen on the front page, http://sco.com -Seva On Fri, 16 Nov 2007, Mike Scott wrote: > http://tinyurl.com/yqaq6k > > This would make a nice system for a firewall / VPN server, or a cool > desktop system (just add Linux) > $150 for Socket AM2 Barebone Kit - AMD Athlon 64 3500+ 2.20GHz OEM, 80GB > HDD, 1GB DDR2 PC5400, ATX Mid-Tower Case, 450 Watt Power Supply > > - Mike Scott > > > From ken at stox.org Fri Nov 16 12:21:34 2007 From: ken at stox.org (Kenneth P. Stox) Date: Fri Nov 16 12:21:37 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Heckuva deal In-Reply-To: References: <20071116073114.6095274834031e3691077dcdffae0724.50a63a7470.wbe@email.secureserver.net> Message-ID: <1195237294.8626.208.camel@stox.dyndns.org> On Fri, 2007-11-16 at 11:59 -0600, Seva Epsteyn wrote: > Not bad, but not as good of a deal as > > SCO UNIX, FREE Daylight Saving Time Patch > http://sco.com/images/homepage/dst_home.jpg > > As seen on the front page, http://sco.com Does it come with a free lawyer? From tom at yarrish.com Fri Nov 16 12:39:32 2007 From: tom at yarrish.com (Tom Yarrish) Date: Fri Nov 16 12:39:42 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Heckuva deal In-Reply-To: <1195237294.8626.208.camel@stox.dyndns.org> References: <20071116073114.6095274834031e3691077dcdffae0724.50a63a7470.wbe@email.secureserver.net> <1195237294.8626.208.camel@stox.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <49F85CD2-224E-4643-9A7F-9B5B0DB8482D@yarrish.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Nov 16, 2007, at 12:21 PM, Kenneth P. Stox wrote: > > On Fri, 2007-11-16 at 11:59 -0600, Seva Epsteyn wrote: >> Not bad, but not as good of a deal as >> >> SCO UNIX, FREE Daylight Saving Time Patch >> http://sco.com/images/homepage/dst_home.jpg >> >> As seen on the front page, http://sco.com > > Does it come with a free lawyer? > > -- > Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni Considering how well their lawyers did, would you want the free lawyer? -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (Darwin) iD8DBQFHPePkZWzkfeDiTw4RAt0CAJ0Yegz0GB++Nk8BZDiqBdHFH93xNgCfc2aZ wOb344s9tXfQlncgMOHXBWk= =cGLF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From luni at pyewacket.org Fri Nov 16 11:52:15 2007 From: luni at pyewacket.org (Mike Scott) Date: Fri Nov 16 12:52:24 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Heckuva deal Message-ID: <20071116115215.6095274834031e3691077dcdffae0724.1213762e18.wbe@email.secureserver.net> Not even Microsoft tried to charge for this. Darl is probably using this to trap people who haven't paid for the OS. With SCOX at about a quarter a share, they are probably looking in the sofa cushions by now for capital. - Mike Scott > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: [LUNI] Heckuva deal > From: Seva Epsteyn > Date: Fri, November 16, 2007 11:59 am > To: Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > > > > Not bad, but not as good of a deal as > > SCO UNIX, FREE Daylight Saving Time Patch > http://sco.com/images/homepage/dst_home.jpg > > As seen on the front page, http://sco.com > > -Seva From ken at stox.org Fri Nov 16 14:38:20 2007 From: ken at stox.org (Kenneth P. Stox) Date: Fri Nov 16 14:38:29 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Heckuva deal In-Reply-To: <49F85CD2-224E-4643-9A7F-9B5B0DB8482D@yarrish.com> References: <20071116073114.6095274834031e3691077dcdffae0724.50a63a7470.wbe@email.secureserver.net> <1195237294.8626.208.camel@stox.dyndns.org> <49F85CD2-224E-4643-9A7F-9B5B0DB8482D@yarrish.com> Message-ID: <1195245500.8626.212.camel@stox.dyndns.org> On Fri, 2007-11-16 at 12:39 -0600, Tom Yarrish wrote: > Considering how well their lawyers did, would you want the free lawyer? I figure they would be great fertilizer for the garden. From rsradvan at unixworks.net Fri Nov 16 17:11:32 2007 From: rsradvan at unixworks.net (Bob Radvanovsky) Date: Sat Nov 17 15:59:18 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Dell PowerEdge 2550 Server FOR SALE Message-ID: <20071116171132.47ed1c66@ironmail.unixworks.net> I have for sale the following items: QTY=1 Dell PowerEdge 2550 1 GHz server with 256 MB of memory - cotnains QTY=2 18GB internal SCA Ultra-160 SCSI drives QTY=1 Dell PowerVault 220S disk array - contains QTY=10 18GB SCA Ultra-160 SCSI drives Come with LVD-SCSI cables and 3 power cords. No operating system. This is a combo deal -- everything listed is what's being offered. I'm look at wanting to get rid of this device for $150 OBO. It's collecting dust in my data center at home. There is nothing wrong with this server. I am standardizing on COMPAQ/HP as my platform of choice. Easier and cheaper for me when ordering parts, too. Local pickup ONLY in Western suburbs of Greater Chicagoland area. Any takers, please send email to "rsradvan@unixworks.net". Thanks! -rad From rsradvan at unixworks.net Sat Nov 17 17:46:34 2007 From: rsradvan at unixworks.net (Bob Radvanovsky) Date: Sun Nov 18 15:37:58 2007 Subject: [LUNI] [UPDATE] Dell PowerEdge 2550 Server w/ PowerVault 220S Disk Array Message-ID: <20071117174634.2969c124@ironmail.unixworks.net> Some of you have overwhelmingly responded back to me regarding the server w/ disk array. To answer everyone's question, yes, the server is functioning. There are TWO (2) 256 MB ECC SDRAM sticks in the unit, but only ONE works. I do NOT have replacement RAM, so the unit is being sold with 256 MB of RAM. Sorry. :( I am attaching TWO (2) photos of the server being offered for sale. One shows the memory, unit's tag identifier, and how much memory it recognizes. On the front, there are TWO (2) 18 GB hard disk drives for the server, with TWO (2) slots open or available. I *DO* have the trays for the drives in the slots, rather than filler plates. Aside for the minor issue with the memory, EVERYTHING works. One thing asked that I forgot to mention was the rail kits. Yes, there are rail kits for BOTH the server *AND* the disk array. The disk array ALSO works, but will need to be reconfigured. The drives and its configuration were "lobotomized" before leaving their location. To answer the last question, yes, this unit will run Linux. I had tested Red Hat Enterprise Linux v3 on it. No problem. I have NOT tested any newer releases of Linux. Photos are now attached. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: scrn1f.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 330135 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://luni.org/pipermail/luni/attachments/20071117/6212751d/scrn1f-0001.jpg -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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So far I've gotten CIFS to work on the winxp machine, and NFS to work for root users on the linux boxes, but I'm having trouble getting regular users access to the drive on the linux boxes. Here is the appropriate entry in my fstab file: 192.168.1.15:/nas/NASDisk-00002/pool /mnt/intelbox nfs user,rw,rsize=4096,wsize=4096,hard,intr,async,nodev,nosuid 0 0 Again, the drive mounts under NFS, but only the root user can access it. I've already tried chmodding the drive once mounted to allow for regular user access, but this screws up the permissions on the WinXP side... Any ideas? Thanks, -- Michael Labowicz http://www.labowicz.com/blog/ From ramin-list at badapple.net Mon Nov 19 00:35:24 2007 From: ramin-list at badapple.net (Ramin K) Date: Mon Nov 19 03:03:17 2007 Subject: [LUNI] [UPDATE] Dell PowerEdge 2550 Server w/ PowerVault 220S Disk Array In-Reply-To: <20071117174634.2969c124@ironmail.unixworks.net> References: <20071117174634.2969c124@ironmail.unixworks.net> Message-ID: <47414ACC.6050101@badapple.net> Bob Radvanovsky wrote: > To answer the last question, yes, this unit will run Linux. I had > tested Red Hat Enterprise Linux v3 on it. No problem. I have NOT > tested any newer releases of Linux. I've run Redhat 8, 9, and AS 4 on those as well as Fedora 5 (maybe 6 too) and lots of Gentoo. If you have an issue loading Linux on that box, it's probably user error. :-) IIRC you can probably find the custom dimm on Ebay to activate the onboard RAID for pretty cheap ... at least it was cheap three years ago. Ramin From dave at dwink.net Mon Nov 19 08:59:42 2007 From: dave at dwink.net (d.w. harks) Date: Mon Nov 19 09:57:45 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Mounting NFS drive as User In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9f46404e0711190659j2f29a2e9ycf70e0e491b4231b@mail.gmail.com> On 11/18/07, Michael Labowicz wrote: > > Hi Luni, > > > Again, the drive mounts under NFS, but only the root user can access it. > > I've already tried chmodding the drive once mounted to allow for > regular user access, but this screws up the permissions on the WinXP > side... Any ideas? This is actually exactly how NFS is supposed to work -- it expects that the passwd file ( and therefore the uid's of the users & groups ) are shared across the nodes of the network that will be sharing the storage. The common way to set this up is to use NIS. Then, what happens is that the permissions ( users, groups, etc ) work the same on all the systems using the shared storage. There are options to mess with the uid's a bit -- check out the exports man page under "User ID Mapping". You'll need to update things on the NFS server where you're exporting the filesystem, not so much on the client where you're mounting the exported FS. Good luck! dave -- d.w. harks | http://www.dwink.net From bil at jeschke.homelinux.net Mon Nov 19 13:33:09 2007 From: bil at jeschke.homelinux.net (bil) Date: Tue Nov 20 09:43:02 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Mounting NFS drive as User Message-ID: <0000865915@jeschke.homelinux.net> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://luni.org/pipermail/luni/attachments/20071119/135ed1fb/attachment.htm From sfaci at cs.uic.edu Tue Nov 20 18:43:49 2007 From: sfaci at cs.uic.edu (Samir Faci) Date: Tue Nov 20 18:43:53 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Biometric support under Linux Message-ID: <9db93b0e0711201643y5670e508g77610380e17b84da@mail.gmail.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi guys, I'm looking for biometric support under linux. Ideally I'm looking for a biometric mouse or something that's small and portable like a usb thumbdrive (size wise) that has a fingerprint reader. I was looking these sites: http://www.reactivated.net/fprint/wiki/Main_Page http://code.google.com/p/bioapi-linux/ I was wondering if anyone has had any experiences with bio mice under linux and if anyone knew of any specific models that were known to work under Linux. - -- Samir -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: http://firegpg.tuxfamily.org iD8DBQFHQ39EfyVUoOdD2oARAmiQAJ90Tum/gxadtO2y+qlKQcKLREZcpwCfQl+x HfLHUS4NV24HaNaJNiSoCxc= =fjSd -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From mlabowicz at gmail.com Tue Nov 20 19:02:50 2007 From: mlabowicz at gmail.com (Michael Labowicz) Date: Tue Nov 20 19:03:03 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Mounting NFS drive as User In-Reply-To: <0000865915@jeschke.homelinux.net> References: <0000865915@jeschke.homelinux.net> Message-ID: On Nov 19, 2007 1:33 PM, bil wrote: > Have you tried doing a chmod on the directory before it is mounted? I have > one of these units at home, and as root I made the mountpoint, then did > chmod a+rwx on so that after it was mounted users could access it. I have > had no problems with NFS this way. I tried chmodding the drive before mounting today, but still couldn't get it to work. Once I mount the drive, the permissions on the drive revert to rwx for only the root and it's group: drwxrwx--- 3 root Did you also have the drive mounted via CIFS at the same time? Michael From kgarner at kgarner.com Wed Nov 21 08:30:43 2007 From: kgarner at kgarner.com (Keith T. Garner) Date: Wed Nov 21 08:30:50 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Mounting NFS drive as User In-Reply-To: References: <0000865915@jeschke.homelinux.net> Message-ID: <47444113.3030802@kgarner.com> On 11/20/07 7:02 PM, Michael Labowicz wrote: > On Nov 19, 2007 1:33 PM, bil wrote: >> Have you tried doing a chmod on the directory before it is mounted? I have >> one of these units at home, and as root I made the mountpoint, then did >> chmod a+rwx on so that after it was mounted users could access it. I have >> had no problems with NFS this way. > > I tried chmodding the drive before mounting today, but still couldn't > get it to work. Once I mount the drive, the permissions on the drive > revert to rwx for only the root and it's group: > > drwxrwx--- 3 root The permissions of the mount point don't matter. Its the permissions of what you're mounting (on the server) that matter. Keith -- Keith T. Garner kgarner@kgarner.com "Make no little plans; they have no magic to stir men's blood." - Daniel H. Burnham From Eric.Boutilier at Sun.COM Tue Nov 20 13:16:59 2007 From: Eric.Boutilier at Sun.COM (Eric Boutilier) Date: Wed Nov 21 08:34:34 2007 Subject: [LUNI] ANN: OpenSolaris User Group Meeting next Tuesday Message-ID: OpenSolaris User Group Meeting, Nov 27th, 8pm, Itasca: http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/ug-glug/2007-November/000466.html Eric From bil at jeschke.homelinux.net Tue Nov 20 20:04:33 2007 From: bil at jeschke.homelinux.net (bil) Date: Wed Nov 21 08:34:36 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Mounting NFS drive as User In-Reply-To: References: <0000865915@jeschke.homelinux.net> Message-ID: <200711202004.33814.bil@jeschke.homelinux.net> Nope, I just use NFS. 192.168.254.22:/nas/NASDisk-00002/public /mnt/maki nfs auto,defaults,user 0 0 Both my systems have these settings; drwxrwxrwx 7 root 11578 when mounted even when not mounted by root, and drwxrwxrwx 3 root root, unmounted But the more I think about it, I may have done a chmod a+rwx on it after it was mounted, the 1 time I used a MS box it did not let me create a file. But it's been awhile. On Tuesday 20 November 2007 07:02:50 pm Michael Labowicz wrote: > On Nov 19, 2007 1:33 PM, bil wrote: > > Have you tried doing a chmod on the directory before it is mounted? I > > have one of these units at home, and as root I made the mountpoint, then > > did chmod a+rwx on so that after it was mounted users could access it. I > > have had no problems with NFS this way. > > I tried chmodding the drive before mounting today, but still couldn't > get it to work. Once I mount the drive, the permissions on the drive > revert to rwx for only the root and it's group: > > drwxrwx--- 3 root > > Did you also have the drive mounted via CIFS at the same time? > > Michael From iwrbpbb at yahoo.com Wed Nov 21 14:22:41 2007 From: iwrbpbb at yahoo.com (Jose Ramirez) Date: Wed Nov 21 16:29:30 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Logical Volume resize issue Message-ID: <189913.55471.qm@web30513.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hello Linux gurus, FYI: Have an HP EVA8000 SAN System and a blade server running Redhat Linux Enterprise Server Edition(Kernel 2.6.9-42.ELsmp). Installed the HP Fibre Utilities and am using LVM2. My issue is that when I expand the partition size on the SAN System from Let's just say 300Gigs to 500Gigs(works okay on the SAN) but on the Linux Server the following happens: pvresize --setphysicalvolumesize 200G /dev/sda(This part works okay) vgchange ?a n vol1(works fine) lvextend ?L+200G /dev/vol1/testlv1 /dev/sda(this also works fine) vgchange ?a y vol1(works fine) resize2fs ?p ?f /dev/vol1/testlv1 On the last step(step 5) I get the following error messages: resize2fs -p -f /dev/vol1/testlv1 resize2fs 1.35 (28-Feb-2004) resize2fs: Invalid argument while trying to open /dev/vol1/testlv1 Couldn't find valid filesystem superblock. Any ideas how to go around this issue? Thanks in advance to whoever advices. JR ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/sports;_ylt=At9_qDKvtAbMuh1G1SQtBI7ntAcJ From maney at two14.net Thu Nov 22 10:40:13 2007 From: maney at two14.net (Martin Maney) Date: Thu Nov 22 10:40:21 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Logical Volume resize issue In-Reply-To: <189913.55471.qm@web30513.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <189913.55471.qm@web30513.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20071122164013.GA22295@furrr.two14.net> On Wed, Nov 21, 2007 at 02:22:41PM -0800, Jose Ramirez wrote: > My issue is that when I expand the partition size on the SAN System > from Let's just say 300Gigs to 500Gigs(works okay on the SAN) but on > the Linux Server the following happens: > I don't know what weird markup this is supposed to be, but whatever it is made your stuff difficult to read. Please try to post material like this as plain text without added line breaks, etc. > pvresize > --setphysicalvolumesize 200G /dev/sda(This part works okay) I don't believe this is what you wanted. The man page says that option causes the value given to be taken as the new pv size, whereas you wish to *increase* the size by 200G, no? I'm not sure about the fact that you got no error; that seems to indicate that either you weren't using the lost 100G or... something. I'm not sure this jibes with the list of things that seemed to work, but it's all that comes to mind this morning. Luck! -- Having used the Django template language perhaps more extensively than anyone else anywhere, I can assure you: if you can?t do it with the Django template language, it?s probably because you shouldn?t be doing it with the Django template language. -- Jeff Croft From alex.camponi at gmail.com Fri Nov 23 22:20:15 2007 From: alex.camponi at gmail.com (alex camponi) Date: Fri Nov 23 16:20:18 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Ron Paul in PimpMyDaughter Poll Message-ID: This one's somewhat strange http://pimpmydaughter.wordpress.com/2007/11/23/the-scummaster-awards-unpleasantness-exposed/ Alex From maney at two14.net Fri Nov 23 23:54:08 2007 From: maney at two14.net (Martin Maney) Date: Fri Nov 23 23:54:15 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Ron Paul in PimpMyDaughter Poll In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20071124055408.GA29169@furrr.two14.net> On Fri, Nov 23, 2007 at 10:20:15PM +0000, alex camponi wrote: > This one's somewhat strange > > http://pimpmydaughter.wordpress.com/2007/11/23/the-scummaster-awards-unpleasantness-exposed/ Not only because this is the luni list, either. -- Happy Holidays! Cry "Charge it!" and let slip the dogs of store. From kgarner at kgarner.com Sat Nov 24 08:21:20 2007 From: kgarner at kgarner.com (Keith T. Garner) Date: Sat Nov 24 08:21:27 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Ron Paul in PimpMyDaughter Poll In-Reply-To: <20071124055408.GA29169@furrr.two14.net> References: <20071124055408.GA29169@furrr.two14.net> Message-ID: <47483360.9040700@kgarner.com> Martin Maney wrote: > On Fri, Nov 23, 2007 at 10:20:15PM +0000, alex camponi wrote: >> This one's somewhat strange >> >> http://pimpmydaughter.wordpress.com/2007/11/23/the-scummaster-awards-unpleasantness-exposed/ > > Not only because this is the luni list, either. > Welcome to the world of moderation, Alex. Keith -- Keith T. Garner kgarner@kgarner.com "Make no little plans; they have no magic to stir men's blood." - Daniel H. Burnham From iwrbpbb at yahoo.com Mon Nov 26 10:31:54 2007 From: iwrbpbb at yahoo.com (Jose Ramirez) Date: Mon Nov 26 12:38:44 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Re-Sent Extending a logical volume Message-ID: <677905.51116.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hello Linux gurus, FYI: Have an HP EVA8000 SAN System and a blade server running Redhat Linux Enterprise Server Edition(Kernel 2.6.9-42.ELsmp). Installed the HP Fibre Utilities and am using LVM2. My issue is that when I expand the partition size on the SAN System from Let's just say 300Gigs to 500Gigs(works okay on the SAN) but on the Linux Server the following happens: 1. pvresize --setphysicalvolumesize 500G /dev/sda(This part works okay) 2. vgchange ?a n vol1(works fine) 3. lvextend ?L+200G /dev/vol1/testlv1 /dev/sda(this also works fine) 4. vgchange ?a y vol1(works fine) 5. resize2fs ?p ?f /dev/vol1/testlv1 On the last step(step 5) I get the following error messages: resize2fs -p -f /dev/vol1/testlv1 resize2fs 1.35 (28-Feb-2004) resize2fs: Invalid argument while trying to open /dev/vol1/testlv1 Couldn't find valid filesystem superblock. Any ideas how to go around this issue? Thanks in advance to whoever advices. JR ____________________________________________________________________________________ Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make Yahoo! your homepage. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs From maney at two14.net Mon Nov 26 13:46:16 2007 From: maney at two14.net (Martin Maney) Date: Mon Nov 26 13:46:27 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Re-Sent Extending a logical volume In-Reply-To: <677905.51116.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <677905.51116.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20071126194616.GA13842@furrr.two14.net> On Mon, Nov 26, 2007 at 10:31:54AM -0800, Jose Ramirez wrote: > On the last step(step 5) I get the following error messages: > resize2fs -p -f /dev/vol1/testlv1 > resize2fs 1.35 (28-Feb-2004) > resize2fs: Invalid argument while trying to open /dev/vol1/testlv1 > Couldn't find valid filesystem superblock. This looks the same as before. If you've been running resize2fs with the force flag without restoring, there may not *be* a consistent filesystem there. Does e2fsck give the filesystem passing marks? -- You know, if you were really going to starve, you'd be justified in writing proprietary software. -- R M Stallman From special.kevin at gmail.com Tue Nov 27 10:22:32 2007 From: special.kevin at gmail.com (Kevin Harriss) Date: Tue Nov 27 10:22:37 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Chicago GNU/Linux User Group Meeting Saturday December 1st at 3pm Message-ID: <97b3d1fd0711270822w63ebc95ayff24993e44f5c4b6@mail.gmail.com> The Chicago GNU/Linux User Group will be having a meeting on Saturday, December 1st at 3:00 pm. We will be meeting at the Institute of Design on the 6th Floor, 350 N. LaSalle, (http://tinyurl.com/34gkzt). For more information check out our website at http://www.chiglug.org or join our mailing list at https://www.chicagolug.org/lists What: Chicago GNU/Linux User Group Meeting When: Saturday, December 1st @ 3:00 pm Where: Institute of Design, 350 N. LaSalle 6th Floor (http://tinyurl.com/34gkzt) Presentations (Subject to Change) - Introduction to GUI database application development with wxWidgets and PostgreSQL (Zlatan Klebic) - TBD From mhencin at yahoo.com Tue Nov 27 14:11:52 2007 From: mhencin at yahoo.com (Michael Hencin) Date: Tue Nov 27 16:12:18 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Java programmer Message-ID: <718058.74657.qm@web81206.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hello I am looking for a contract JAVA programmer to re-program a current J2EE application we have. This application uses the Tomcat application server and Firebird database. The software provides task tracking, change management, project management and meeting minutes software. It is used primarily in the engineering and manufacturing industries. I am looking for someone or group who can reprogram the current version in the MVC style. Currently the application is a mix of jsp and java. Anyone interested please contact me and we can discuss further details and requirements. I would prefer a local to Chicago contact. Thanks! Michael Hencin ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs From brian at planetshwoop.com Wed Nov 28 00:09:08 2007 From: brian at planetshwoop.com (Brian Sobolak) Date: Tue Nov 27 23:41:36 2007 Subject: [LUNI] ANN: Meeting This Thursday, 8pm, NEW LOCATION THIS WEEK ONLY Message-ID: <38762.71.239.174.233.1196226548.squirrel@magenta.planetshwoop.com> Hello, Hello -- Since the UFO meeting traditionally scheduled for the 4th Thursday of the month happened to be The Day We Eat Turkey, we did not meet. However, as is custom, we will instead have a special "5th Thursday" meeting at a non-customary site. Our location this month: El Cid in Logan Square. To whit: What: UFO Chicago, an open-source enthusiast group When: 8pm, Thursday Nov 29th Where: El Cid #2, 2645 N Kedzie in Chicago For more info about El Cid, go here: http://www.centerstage.net/restaurants/el-cid2.html It is close to many bus lines (Kimball, Milwaukee, Diversey) and directly across the street from the Logan Square El stop. On-street parking is available; inexpensive parking is available in the city lot across the street from El Cid on Kedzie. El Cid is smoke-free, has (cheap) beer and wine, and tasty Mexican food. brian -- -- Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Announcements Mailing List http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni-announce From knura at yahoo.com Wed Nov 28 22:04:43 2007 From: knura at yahoo.com (Arun Khan) Date: Wed Nov 28 17:41:32 2007 Subject: [LUNI] 2007 Linux Desktop/Client Survey Message-ID: <200711282204.43451.knura@yahoo.com> The survey closes on 30/Nov/2007. Please take it and encourage others to give their input as well. https://www.linux-foundation.org/en/2007ClientSurvey An article on early results from the survey: http://desktoplinux.com/news/NS9488592005.html -- Arun Khan From gug at fnal.gov Thu Nov 29 09:38:15 2007 From: gug at fnal.gov (Gerald Guglielmo) Date: Thu Nov 29 09:38:18 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Wireless & wired router recommendations? Message-ID: <474EDCE7.3050600@fnal.gov> Hi, My setup at home has some connections using wireless and some wired. One the wired side: NAS (Netgear/Infrant); HP Ethernet printer; Linux desktop. On the wireless side: Windows laptop; Tivo; occasionally a laptop from work. Over the past 3+ years I have tried in succession two D-Link wireless routers (with four wired ports), models DI-624 and DI-524. Initially they both worked great and were easy to configure over time via a web interface (making it very Linux friendly). However after many months to a year, they each started exhibiting problems on power cycle. The initial symptom presented is that no network connections work and all the activity lights are stuck on. Unplugging all connections and power cycling (waiting at least 30 seconds each time) eventually works, but sometimes it would take half a dozen or more tries. This got worse over time as the probability of success (and number of repeated cycles) would increase as the month went by. Invoking reset from the web interface would also cause the same symptoms as power cycling only you could only do that once. That is the common symptom between both models. They each also had a more annoying failure symptom which differed from the others. The first one would randomly lose it's lease with the cable modem and only power cycling all the equipment multiple times would eventually resolve the issue (I was able to rule out the cable modem after a lot of trial and error). For a while this happened about once a week and I thought it was the cable company up to no good, but when it started happening every 12 hours or less I replaced the router and the problem went away. The second router seems to have developed a more subtle problem. The HP printer uses a 169.* private network address, while the router gives out DHCP addresses in 192.* range. Until last weekend everything was fine and both wireless and wired addresses could ping the printer and print files. The wired connections can still ping the printer and have no problems printing files, however the wireless connections cannot even see the printer. At first I thought this was a Windows firewall issue and I spent a long time trying to figure out what McAfee might have done. However it now appears the problem might be that wireless connections in general cannot see the 169.* addresses but the wireless ones can. So now I am in the market for a new router that will have at least 4 wired ports, does wireless with DHCP, and is easily configurable from Linux. Needless to say I am not thrilled with D-Link at the moment, but I do not have enough experience to know if the failure rate is typical of home grade routers. Does anyone have any recommendations for the next router I should try? I would greatly appreciate it, thanks. -- -Jerry-> gug@fnal.gov Pepe's Theory of everything: "Under the right circumstances, things happen." From special.kevin at gmail.com Thu Nov 29 09:49:00 2007 From: special.kevin at gmail.com (Kevin Harriss) Date: Thu Nov 29 09:49:04 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Wireless & wired router recommendations? In-Reply-To: <474EDCE7.3050600@fnal.gov> References: <474EDCE7.3050600@fnal.gov> Message-ID: <97b3d1fd0711290749n180100edt277873d0384d11c8@mail.gmail.com> [SNIP > So now I am in the market for a new router that will have at least 4 > wired ports, does wireless with DHCP, and is easily configurable from > Linux. Needless to say I am not thrilled with D-Link at the moment, but > I do not have enough experience to know if the failure rate is typical > of home grade routers. Does anyone have any recommendations for the next > router I should try? I would greatly appreciate it, thanks. > [SNIP] Jerry, I have been a long time user of linksys wireless routers and my current router is a linksys wrt45gl. They are easily configurable from a web interface so you can configure them from windows, linux or mac. Another nice perk with the wrt54gl is that if you wanted to you can run openWRT on it and be running linux on your router. -- - specialKevin - Kevin Harriss - http://www.specialkevin.com From bradbosch at comcast.net Thu Nov 29 10:19:28 2007 From: bradbosch at comcast.net (bradbosch@comcast.net) Date: Thu Nov 29 10:32:25 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Wireless & wired router recommendations? In-Reply-To: <474EDCE7.3050600@fnal.gov> References: <474EDCE7.3050600@fnal.gov> Message-ID: <18254.59024.568534.908970@imnotcreative.homeip.net> Gerald Guglielmo writes: > Hi, > The second router seems to have developed a more subtle problem. The > HP printer uses a 169.* private network address, while the router gives > out DHCP addresses in 192.* range. Until last weekend everything was > fine and both wireless and wired addresses could ping the printer and > print files. The wired connections can still ping the printer and have > no problems printing files, however the wireless connections cannot even > see the printer. At first I thought this was a Windows firewall issue > and I spent a long time trying to figure out what McAfee might have > done. However it now appears the problem might be that wireless > connections in general cannot see the 169.* addresses but the wireless > ones can. Assuming you have the 169.* printer on one of the wired connections, it's not clear to me how this *ever* worked unless your old router explictly supported Microsoft's horrible auto-configuration kludge. Since your hosts are on the 192.* subnet, presumably properly configured via DHCP, they will most likely direct packets in the 169.* range to the default route. Unless you have a route manually configured for the printer, the router *should* direct the packet to the default route *it* was given by the cable modem. It most likely knows nothing about a 169 network. Does the new router support manually configured routes or a second wired local subnet? If not, I'd reconfigure the printer. If you want to avoid the problem of lack of support and bug fixes as your router ages and your network evolves, I suggest buying a router that's capable of running one of the open source firmwares. There are several good Buffalo and Linksys choices. Pay attention to the specific revision numbers supported and the amount of flash and RAM memory when you shop. --Brad From gug at fnal.gov Thu Nov 29 11:56:48 2007 From: gug at fnal.gov (Gerald Guglielmo) Date: Thu Nov 29 11:57:01 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Wireless & wired router recommendations? In-Reply-To: <18254.59024.568534.908970@imnotcreative.homeip.net> References: <474EDCE7.3050600@fnal.gov> <18254.59024.568534.908970@imnotcreative.homeip.net> Message-ID: <474EFD60.5050306@fnal.gov> bradbosch@comcast.net wrote: > Gerald Guglielmo writes: > > Hi, > > > The second router seems to have developed a more subtle problem. The > > HP printer uses a 169.* private network address, while the router gives > > out DHCP addresses in 192.* range. Until last weekend everything was > > fine and both wireless and wired addresses could ping the printer and > > print files. The wired connections can still ping the printer and have > > no problems printing files, however the wireless connections cannot even > > see the printer. At first I thought this was a Windows firewall issue > > and I spent a long time trying to figure out what McAfee might have > > done. However it now appears the problem might be that wireless > > connections in general cannot see the 169.* addresses but the wireless > > ones can. > > Assuming you have the 169.* printer on one of the wired connections, > it's not clear to me how this *ever* worked unless your old router > explictly supported Microsoft's horrible auto-configuration kludge. > Since your hosts are on the 192.* subnet, presumably properly > configured via DHCP, they will most likely direct packets in the 169.* > range to the default route. Unless you have a route manually > configured for the printer, the router *should* direct the packet to > the default route *it* was given by the cable modem. It most likely > knows nothing about a 169 network. Does the new router support > manually configured routes or a second wired local subnet? If not, > I'd reconfigure the printer. > I am not sure why it worked either, all I can say is it basically just worked without doing anything special on my part. Initially I bought the router and hooked the desktop up on a wired port with a static address (192 range) and then had Comcast come out and install the cable modem (I did not show them the router). That worked fine. A few months later I bought the printer and hooked that up to another wired port. It wanted to be in 169 and apart from puzzling through cups configuration and installing a few HP files it worked without doing any route specific changes. About a year later I had to by the laptop (with Windows) so my daughter could do school work. I plugged that in, installed the HP software which saw the printer on the network and it just worked. I did not have to do anything special with the router or the Windows configuration. I need a new router to solve the annoying power cycle issues anyway, I guess I will find out then if getting printing working from Windows has some nasty surprises. I am not sure the HP printer will let me change it's IP setting (I will have to refer to the manual). Thanks. -- -Jerry-> gug@fnal.gov Pepe's Theory of everything: "Under the right circumstances, things happen." From aclose at gmail.com Thu Nov 29 14:10:31 2007 From: aclose at gmail.com (Andrew Close) Date: Thu Nov 29 14:10:37 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Wireless & wired router recommendations? In-Reply-To: <474EFD60.5050306@fnal.gov> References: <474EDCE7.3050600@fnal.gov> <18254.59024.568534.908970@imnotcreative.homeip.net> <474EFD60.5050306@fnal.gov> Message-ID: not to hijack this thread, 'but' does anyone have recommendations on a decent GB router for home use? i'm looking to upgrade when my currently Linksys dies. i've been happy with Linksys so far, are they worth sticking with for GB? thanks From tprinty at mail.edisonave.net Thu Nov 29 14:27:23 2007 From: tprinty at mail.edisonave.net (Tom Printy) Date: Thu Nov 29 14:27:36 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Centos3 and a Sata Drive Message-ID: <1196368043.21127.12.camel@localhost> Has anyone successfully installed Centos 3 on a computer with a Sata hard drive? The motherboard that I am trying to us is an ASUS M2A-VM. My thought was that I could use a SATA drive to IDE adapter converter and install and see if the newer kernel would pick up the device but am not sure if this would work. Anyone ever try something like this? Thanks -Tom From luni at pyewacket.org Thu Nov 29 13:46:42 2007 From: luni at pyewacket.org (Mike Scott) Date: Thu Nov 29 14:46:51 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Wireless & wired router recommendations? Message-ID: <20071129134642.6095274834031e3691077dcdffae0724.6bd275f7b8.wbe@email.secureserver.net> Been using a Linksys WRT54GL purchased from New Egg running ddWRT for about a year and a half with no problems. I don't use the router or DHCP functions, however I just use it as a 5-port switch / WAP combo. - Mike Scott > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: [LUNI] Wireless & wired router recommendations? > From: Gerald Guglielmo > Date: Thu, November 29, 2007 9:38 am > To: luni > > > Hi, > My setup at home has some connections using wireless and some wired. > One the wired side: NAS (Netgear/Infrant); HP Ethernet printer; Linux > desktop. On the wireless side: Windows laptop; Tivo; occasionally a > laptop from work. Over the past 3+ years I have tried in succession two > D-Link wireless routers (with four wired ports), models DI-624 and > DI-524. Initially they both worked great and were easy to configure over > time via a web interface (making it very Linux friendly). However after > many months to a year, they each started exhibiting problems on power > cycle. The initial symptom presented is that no network connections work > and all the activity lights are stuck on. Unplugging all connections and > power cycling (waiting at least 30 seconds each time) eventually works, > but sometimes it would take half a dozen or more tries. This got worse > over time as the probability of success (and number of repeated cycles) > would increase as the month went by. Invoking reset from the web > interface would also cause the same symptoms as power cycling only you > could only do that once. That is the common symptom between both models. > They each also had a more annoying failure symptom which differed from > the others. The first one would randomly lose it's lease with the cable > modem and only power cycling all the equipment multiple times would > eventually resolve the issue (I was able to rule out the cable modem > after a lot of trial and error). For a while this happened about once a > week and I thought it was the cable company up to no good, but when it > started happening every 12 hours or less I replaced the router and the > problem went away. > The second router seems to have developed a more subtle problem. The > HP printer uses a 169.* private network address, while the router gives > out DHCP addresses in 192.* range. Until last weekend everything was > fine and both wireless and wired addresses could ping the printer and > print files. The wired connections can still ping the printer and have > no problems printing files, however the wireless connections cannot even > see the printer. At first I thought this was a Windows firewall issue > and I spent a long time trying to figure out what McAfee might have > done. However it now appears the problem might be that wireless > connections in general cannot see the 169.* addresses but the wireless > ones can. > So now I am in the market for a new router that will have at least 4 > wired ports, does wireless with DHCP, and is easily configurable from > Linux. Needless to say I am not thrilled with D-Link at the moment, but > I do not have enough experience to know if the failure rate is typical > of home grade routers. Does anyone have any recommendations for the next > router I should try? I would greatly appreciate it, thanks. > > -- > -Jerry-> > gug@fnal.gov > Pepe's Theory of everything: "Under the right circumstances, things happen." > -- > Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni From knura at yahoo.com Fri Nov 30 07:37:57 2007 From: knura at yahoo.com (Arun Khan) Date: Thu Nov 29 20:50:01 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Centos3 and a Sata Drive In-Reply-To: <1196368043.21127.12.camel@localhost> References: <1196368043.21127.12.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <200711300737.58120.knura@yahoo.com> On Friday 30 Nov 2007, Tom Printy wrote: > Has anyone successfully installed Centos 3 on a computer with a Sata Any particular reason for not going with CentOS 5? It might have the drivers for your SATA chip set. -- Arun Khan From jgd-luni at metajoe.com Fri Nov 30 06:22:41 2007 From: jgd-luni at metajoe.com (Joe Digilio) Date: Fri Nov 30 06:22:47 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Centos3 and a Sata Drive In-Reply-To: <1196368043.21127.12.camel@localhost> References: <1196368043.21127.12.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <8563497c0711300422v4705d0d0w1d3765e242bcdf5e@mail.gmail.com> On Nov 29, 2007 2:27 PM, Tom Printy wrote: > Has anyone successfully installed Centos 3 on a computer with a Sata > hard drive? The motherboard that I am trying to us is an ASUS M2A-VM. > My thought was that I could use a SATA drive to IDE adapter converter > and install and see if the newer kernel would pick up the device but am > not sure if this would work. Anyone ever try something like this? I have a few workstations with RHEL3 on SATA drives. I don't know about support for that particular motherboard. Like Arun suggested, you're more likely to have success with a more modern version. -Joe From tprinty at mail.edisonave.net Fri Nov 30 10:16:33 2007 From: tprinty at mail.edisonave.net (Tom Printy) Date: Fri Nov 30 10:20:44 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Centos3 and a Sata Drive In-Reply-To: <8563497c0711300422v4705d0d0w1d3765e242bcdf5e@mail.gmail.com> References: <1196368043.21127.12.camel@localhost> <8563497c0711300422v4705d0d0w1d3765e242bcdf5e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1196439393.27818.6.camel@localhost> > > I have a few workstations with RHEL3 on SATA drives. > I don't know about support for that particular motherboard. > Like Arun suggested, you're more likely to have success with a more > modern version. Thanks for the responses everyone. The reason that I want to stick with centos3 is that I have some dependencies on python2.2, postgres7, and php4. The system is currently running on ES3 update 8 and I just want to get the system running on more modern/faster hardware. In any event we decided to use and IDE hard drive and install onto that. I might try add in a SATA drive later and see if that is supported. If it is I will just dd the IDE drive to the SATA drive and see if I can boot from that. Thanks -Tom Printy From dbt at meat.net Fri Nov 30 12:59:46 2007 From: dbt at meat.net (David Terrell) Date: Fri Nov 30 13:03:50 2007 Subject: [LUNI] Centos3 and a Sata Drive In-Reply-To: <1196439393.27818.6.camel@localhost> References: <1196368043.21127.12.camel@localhost> <8563497c0711300422v4705d0d0w1d3765e242bcdf5e@mail.gmail.com> <1196439393.27818.6.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <20071130185946.GG2371@sphinx.chicagopeoplez.org> On Fri, Nov 30, 2007 at 10:16:33AM -0600, Tom Printy wrote: > > > > > I have a few workstations with RHEL3 on SATA drives. > > I don't know about support for that particular motherboard. > > Like Arun suggested, you're more likely to have success with a more > > modern version. > > Thanks for the responses everyone. The reason that I want to stick with > centos3 is that I have some dependencies on python2.2, postgres7, and > php4. The system is currently running on ES3 update 8 and I just want > to get the system running on more modern/faster hardware. A friend of mine likes to call this "not paying the software tax." Sometimes you have to just take the time and fix your stuff to work with current versions, before you find yourself trapped in a disaster. > In any event we decided to use and IDE hard drive and install onto that. > I might try add in a SATA drive later and see if that is supported. If > it is I will just dd the IDE drive to the SATA drive and see if I can > boot from that. use dump/restore to copy between unix filesystems, not dd. (or tar/cpio if you use some bizarre filesystem that doesn't have a working dump/restore). -- David Terrell dbt@meat.net ((meatspace)) http://meat.net/