From tcameron at redhat.com Thu May 1 14:41:05 2008 From: tcameron at redhat.com (Thomas Cameron (Red Hat)) Date: Thu May 1 14:09:04 2008 Subject: [LUNI] Red Hat Summit Message-ID: <481A0EC1.2030604@redhat.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hey All - Red Hat Summit is only about 6 weeks away, still time to register. I'll be co-presenting with another Red Hatter, Lon Hohberger, on high availability/application clustering with Red Hat Advanced Platform (formerly a feature of Red Hat Cluster Suite). Agenda is at http://www.redhat.com/promo/summit/2008/agenda/schedule.html Sign up at http://www.redhat.com/promo/summit/2008/ - early bird pricing through May 24th. Cheers, - -- Thomas Cameron, RHCE, RHCX, CNE, MCSE, MCT Solutions Architect Team Lead, Central Region 512-241-0774 office 512-585-5631 cell 512-857-1345 fax -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIGg7Bmzle50YHwaARAoDGAKCeu26ycMvRuqao8wzQ4lPzL8JAPQCeNkvY cKhATm570J/L6INwS6/Vwyw= =2ba/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From richard at rushlogistics.com Fri May 2 07:22:09 2008 From: richard at rushlogistics.com (Richard Reina) Date: Fri May 2 08:28:57 2008 Subject: [LUNI] How to set up a quick easy website? Message-ID: <254604.99892.qm@web609.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Does anyone know the cheapest place to: 1) reserve a domain name for a month. 2) Go with hosting that supplies and easy GUI/software (for dummies) that I can use from my linux laptop to set up a informative site. Your beliefs become your thoughts. Your thoughts become your words. Your words become your actions. Your actions become your habits. Your habits become your values. Your values become your destiny. -- Mahatma Gandhi From tprinty at mail.edisonave.net Fri May 2 09:46:08 2008 From: tprinty at mail.edisonave.net (Tom Printy) Date: Fri May 2 08:46:18 2008 Subject: [LUNI] How to set up a quick easy website? In-Reply-To: <254604.99892.qm@web609.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <254604.99892.qm@web609.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1209735968.29022.12.camel@localhost> godaddy.com ? On Fri, 2008-05-02 at 06:22 -0700, Richard Reina wrote: > Does anyone know the cheapest place to: > > 1) reserve a domain name for a month. > > 2) Go with hosting that supplies and easy GUI/software (for dummies) that I can use from my linux laptop to set up a informative site. > > > > > Your beliefs become your thoughts. Your thoughts become your words. Your words become your actions. Your actions become your habits. Your habits become your values. Your values become your destiny. -- Mahatma Gandhi From cedrickj at gmail.com Fri May 2 10:57:53 2008 From: cedrickj at gmail.com (Cedrick W. Johnson) Date: Fri May 2 08:58:05 2008 Subject: [LUNI] How to set up a quick easy website? In-Reply-To: <254604.99892.qm@web609.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <254604.99892.qm@web609.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <481B1DE1.4000700@gmail.com> You can try Google Apps (Free edition) http://www.google.com/apps/business/index.html -cj Richard Reina wrote: > Does anyone know the cheapest place to: > > 1) reserve a domain name for a month. > > 2) Go with hosting that supplies and easy GUI/software (for dummies) that I can use from my linux laptop to set up a informative site. > > > > > Your beliefs become your thoughts. Your thoughts become your words. Your words become your actions. Your actions become your habits. Your habits become your values. Your values become your destiny. -- Mahatma Gandhi > From slouchfuzz at ippimail.com Fri May 2 22:18:54 2008 From: slouchfuzz at ippimail.com (Jeff Y.) Date: Fri May 2 21:42:55 2008 Subject: [LUNI] How to set up a quick easy website? In-Reply-To: <254604.99892.qm@web609.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <254604.99892.qm@web609.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <34154.69.219.154.246.1209781134.squirrel@www.ippimail.com> > 2) Go with hosting that supplies and easy GUI/software (for dummies) that > I can use from my linux laptop to set up a informative site. > It's still beta but here's a free, Ajax based service: http://www.synthasite.com/home -- Email and shopping with the feelgood factor! 55% of income to good causes. http://www.ippimail.com From mswier at yahoo.com Sat May 3 10:44:08 2008 From: mswier at yahoo.com (Mike Swier) Date: Sat May 3 11:44:28 2008 Subject: [LUNI] ANN: NWCLUG's next meeting 5/6/08 Message-ID: <467889.66527.qm@web57014.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Hi, NWCLUG's next meeting will be at Harper College in A238 at 7pm on Tuesday 5/6/08. For (a bit) more info see http://nwclug.org/meetings.html#nextmtg mikie -------------- next part -------------- -- Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Announcements Mailing List http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni-announce From mlabowicz at gmail.com Sat May 3 14:37:21 2008 From: mlabowicz at gmail.com (Michael Labowicz) Date: Sat May 3 13:37:24 2008 Subject: [LUNI] Linux at Local Businesses Message-ID: Hi Luni, I just thought I'd mention that I saw Ubuntu being used to run the mechanic's terminals at Duke of Oil. I think they were being used to run an old dos inventory program in dosbox. In the past I've also seen Linux (Knoppix) being used in a similar capacity at the Great Escape. It's nice to see small chains and local businesses leveraging the advantages that Linux offers over legacy systems. Has anyone else noticed Linux being used at other local businesses? Does it make you want to frequent them more often? :) Regards, Michael Labowicz From lrochester at scooterworks.com Sat May 3 17:51:11 2008 From: lrochester at scooterworks.com (luther rochester) Date: Sat May 3 17:44:57 2008 Subject: [LUNI] linux friendly wifi card for sale Message-ID: <481CDE4F.1010700@scooterworks.com> I have a spare Cisco Aironet 350 card if anybody needs it. It's only 802.11B, but it's bulletproof linux-friendly via the airo kernel module. You can use it as PCI or PCMCIA (the pci card is just an adapter for the PCMCIA). Email me offlist if you're interested. -- ./luther From weigell1 at comcast.net Mon May 5 00:44:14 2008 From: weigell1 at comcast.net (weigell1@comcast.net) Date: Sun May 4 18:44:23 2008 Subject: [LUNI] How to set up a quick easy website? Message-ID: <050420082344.1141.481E4A4E00093C91000004752205886172CE04040A09070A99@comcast.net> I've used Startlogic and have had good results. ~Lw <;) -- "The only real valuable thing is intuition." - A. Einstein -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Richard Reina > Does anyone know the cheapest place to: > > 1) reserve a domain name for a month. > > 2) Go with hosting that supplies and easy GUI/software (for dummies) that I can > use from my linux laptop to set up a informative site. > > > > > Your beliefs become your thoughts. Your thoughts become your words. Your words > become your actions. Your actions become your habits. Your habits become your > values. Your values become your destiny. -- Mahatma Gandhi > -- > Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni From eric at macadie.net Mon May 5 11:58:14 2008 From: eric at macadie.net (Eric MacAdie) Date: Mon May 5 10:58:10 2008 Subject: [LUNI] Linux at Local Businesses In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <481F2E96.5070307@MacAdie.net> I had to print something recently, so I went over to the local Internet cafe. The PC I used was running Ubuntu. Eric MacAdie Michael Labowicz wrote: > Hi Luni, > I just thought I'd mention that I saw Ubuntu being used to run the > mechanic's terminals at Duke of Oil. I think they were being used to run an > old dos inventory program in dosbox. In the past I've also seen Linux > (Knoppix) being used in a similar capacity at the Great Escape. It's nice > to see small chains and local businesses leveraging the advantages that > Linux offers over legacy systems. Has anyone else noticed Linux being used > at other local businesses? Does it make you want to frequent them more > often? :) > > Regards, > Michael Labowicz > From sobolak at gmail.com Tue May 6 00:29:12 2008 From: sobolak at gmail.com (sobolak@gmail.com) Date: Mon May 5 18:29:37 2008 Subject: [LUNI] Perl & shell scripting question Message-ID: <478416143-1210030169-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-307125784-@bxe139.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> What's the going hourly rate for that kind of work these days on a contract? Brian Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com Mon May 5 23:07:07 2008 From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams) Date: Mon May 5 22:07:11 2008 Subject: [LUNI] Perl & shell scripting question In-Reply-To: <478416143-1210030169-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-307125784-@bxe139.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> References: <478416143-1210030169-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-307125784-@bxe139.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Message-ID: <49d805d70805052007tea64898ke1fcc105f5cfe835@mail.gmail.com> > What's the going hourly rate for that kind of work these days on a contract? Very client dependent. I've billed out anywhere from $25/hour to $150/hour recently and know some people who are getting $250/hr on occasion. The variability is huge and has a lot to do with the task at hand and the industry. Do you think I can be more vague :) Josh http://yapc.org/America - Perl Conference Chicago! From sobolak at gmail.com Mon May 5 23:35:12 2008 From: sobolak at gmail.com (Brian Sobolak) Date: Mon May 5 22:35:19 2008 Subject: [LUNI] Perl & shell scripting question In-Reply-To: <49d805d70805052007tea64898ke1fcc105f5cfe835@mail.gmail.com> References: <478416143-1210030169-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-307125784-@bxe139.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> <49d805d70805052007tea64898ke1fcc105f5cfe835@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <25D6F2CE-29D5-49EB-A9C2-FE9DB49C887D@gmail.com> On May 5, 2008, at 22:07, "Joshua McAdams" wrote: >> What's the going hourly rate for that kind of work these days on a >> contract? > > Very client dependent. I've billed out anywhere from $25/hour to > $150/hour recently and know some people who are getting $250/hr on > occasion. The variability is huge and has a lot to do with the task > at hand and the industry. > > Do you think I can be more vague But I'll ask anyway... If you were to name an hourly rate for 20 hrs. per week for a perl job with some shell scripting, what would you say? Specificity is more important than the perfectly correct one. Brian From rick.munday at bananaskin.com Tue May 6 08:38:23 2008 From: rick.munday at bananaskin.com (Rick Munday) Date: Tue May 6 07:52:39 2008 Subject: [LUNI] Linux at Local Businesses References: <481F2E96.5070307@MacAdie.net> Message-ID: <01c701c8af76$16770640$0e01a8c0@MainPC> I haven't seen it around Naperville that I've noticed but near our place in Missouri there's a BBQ joint that runs their POS on Ubuntu. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric MacAdie" To: "Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion" Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 10:58 AM Subject: Re: [LUNI] Linux at Local Businesses >I had to print something recently, so I went over to the local Internet >cafe. The PC I used was running Ubuntu. > > Eric MacAdie From bray at sent.com Tue May 6 11:31:40 2008 From: bray at sent.com (bray@sent.com) Date: Tue May 6 10:31:42 2008 Subject: [LUNI] ChiPy May Meeting Message-ID: <1210087900.16516.1251690001@webmail.messagingengine.com> Chicago Python User Group ========================= Come join us for our best meeting ever! When ---- Thursday, May 8th, ~7pm Topics ------ * The Screen craping console, Cycloctopus (Feighong Hsu) * Demonstration on using the built-in Unit Testing Django Apps (Brian Ray) * How to get back to coding and recover from Cinco de Mayo with lots of strong Coffee (The Fixx Staff) Location -------- `The Fixx Coffee Bar `_ This is a new venue on the North side (Lakeview). Two blocks from Belmont "L" Brown, Red, and Purple line stations. Metered and Permit street parking available. Also pay parking available at the The Vic condo building across the street from The Vic Theater. We will probably head to Matilda's or somewhere near by for drinks and socialization after the meeting. About ChiPy ----------- ChiPy is a group of Chicago Python Programmers, l33t, and n00bs. Meetings are held monthly at various locations around Chicago. Also, ChiPy is a proud sponsor of many Open Source and Educational efforts in Chicago. Stay tuned to the mailing list for more info. ChiPy website: ChiPy Mailing List: Python website: From sobolak at gmail.com Thu May 8 20:50:58 2008 From: sobolak at gmail.com (sobolak@gmail.com) Date: Fri May 9 09:08:36 2008 Subject: [LUNI] ANN: UFO Chicago tonight! Message-ID: <1538821207-1210276277-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-245699634-@bxe139.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Tonight is the 2nd Thursday of the month and thus a UFO mtg! We'll meet at 8pm at 4229 W Irving Park rd. Brian Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -- Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Announcements Mailing List http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni-announce From weigell1 at comcast.net Fri May 9 17:18:53 2008 From: weigell1 at comcast.net (weigell1@comcast.net) Date: Fri May 9 11:19:11 2008 Subject: [LUNI] ANN: UFO Chicago tonight! Message-ID: <050920081618.27601.4824796D000761C800006BD12205889116CE04040A09070A99@comcast.net> Hello & please excuse my naivete' but is this a LINUX meeting or a UFO meeting? ~Lw -- "The only real valuable thing is intuition." - A. Einstein -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: sobolak@gmail.com > > Tonight is the 2nd Thursday of the month and thus a UFO mtg! > > We'll meet at 8pm at 4229 W Irving Park rd. > > Brian > Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile > > -- > Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Announcements Mailing List > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni-announce > -- > Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni From emperorcezar at gmail.com Fri May 9 12:38:55 2008 From: emperorcezar at gmail.com (Adam Jenkins) Date: Fri May 9 11:49:03 2008 Subject: [LUNI] ANN: UFO Chicago tonight! In-Reply-To: <050920081618.27601.4824796D000761C800006BD12205889116CE04040A09070A99@comcast.net> References: <050920081618.27601.4824796D000761C800006BD12205889116CE04040A09070A99@comcast.net> Message-ID: <58a5f2220805090938o589ec51dm943cf76f52450a7d@mail.gmail.com> User's of Free Operating systems On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 11:18 AM, wrote: > Hello & please excuse my naivete' but is this a LINUX meeting or a UFO > meeting? > > ~Lw > > -- > "The only real valuable thing is intuition." > - A. Einstein > > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > From: sobolak@gmail.com > > > > Tonight is the 2nd Thursday of the month and thus a UFO mtg! > > > > We'll meet at 8pm at 4229 W Irving Park rd. > > > > Brian > > Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile > > > > -- > > Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Announcements Mailing List > > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni-announce > > -- > > Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni > > -- > Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni > From weigell1 at comcast.net Fri May 9 17:50:40 2008 From: weigell1 at comcast.net (weigell1@comcast.net) Date: Fri May 9 11:50:48 2008 Subject: [LUNI] ANN: UFO Chicago tonight! Message-ID: <050920081650.10484.482480E0000AB5B2000028F42207020853CE04040A09070A99@comcast.net> Thanks for the clarification! ~Lw -- "The only real valuable thing is intuition." - A. Einstein -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Adam Jenkins" > User's of Free Operating systems > > On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 11:18 AM, wrote: > > > Hello & please excuse my naivete' but is this a LINUX meeting or a UFO > > meeting? > > > > ~Lw > > > > -- > > "The only real valuable thing is intuition." > > - A. Einstein > > > > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > > From: sobolak@gmail.com > > > > > > Tonight is the 2nd Thursday of the month and thus a UFO mtg! > > > > > > We'll meet at 8pm at 4229 W Irving Park rd. > > > > > > Brian > > > Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile > > > > > > -- > > > Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Announcements Mailing List > > > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni-announce > > > -- > > > Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > > > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni > > > > -- > > Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni > > > -- > Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni From me at heyjay.com Sun May 11 08:43:57 2008 From: me at heyjay.com (Jay Strauss) Date: Sun May 11 19:35:59 2008 Subject: [LUNI] LAN/Phone wiring help needed Message-ID: Hi, I apologize for double posting, and posting to possibly the wrong list, but I figured someone at these could give me a referral. Can anyone recommend someone to re-connect all my phone wires (punch-down), and put in 2 network jacks? Ideally someone good and inexpensive . I ripped out the nest upon nest of grerry-rigged phone wires in my house (basement) where the entire phone service distribution/splicing occurred. It seemed that there were 3-4 separate installations from previous owners of my home, where one installer patched into the previous install. I was trying to clean up all the wires and make room for getting Comcast's voice/data/video service. But I've messed something up and don't have tons of time for working on it. Some phones work, some don't, weird clicking, intermittent outages. I've probably got a short or something. I'm up in Lincolnshire. Thanks Jay From luni at pyewacket.org Fri May 16 14:14:17 2008 From: luni at pyewacket.org (Mike Scott) Date: Fri May 16 15:14:29 2008 Subject: [LUNI] OT: Backscatter Message-ID: <20080516131417.6095274834031e3691077dcdffae0724.4157f926ad.wbe@email.secureserver.net> Just wondering if anyone has noticed a surge in "backscatter" in the past 24 hours. I have gotten about 100+ "undeliverable" email messages in my SPAM folder from people I have never heard of. I don't know if it's just my turn, or there's some new zombie army on the loose. - Mike Scott From e.ellington at gmail.com Fri May 16 16:22:44 2008 From: e.ellington at gmail.com (Eric Ellington) Date: Fri May 16 15:22:46 2008 Subject: [LUNI] OT: Backscatter In-Reply-To: <20080516131417.6095274834031e3691077dcdffae0724.4157f926ad.wbe@email.secureserver.net> References: <20080516131417.6095274834031e3691077dcdffae0724.4157f926ad.wbe@email.secureserver.net> Message-ID: I figured this Article on Slashdot just spread the idea wider and wider. http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/05/05/0452257 My email servers at work have just been getting more and more. On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 3:14 PM, Mike Scott wrote: > Just wondering if anyone has noticed a surge in "backscatter" in the > past 24 hours. > I have gotten about 100+ "undeliverable" email messages in my SPAM > folder from people I have never heard of. > I don't know if it's just my turn, or there's some new zombie army on > the loose. > > - Mike Scott > > > -- > Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni > -- Eric Ellington e.ellington@gmail.com From ken at stox.org Fri May 16 16:35:59 2008 From: ken at stox.org (Kenneth P. Stox) Date: Fri May 16 15:36:08 2008 Subject: [LUNI] OT: Backscatter In-Reply-To: <20080516131417.6095274834031e3691077dcdffae0724.4157f926ad.wbe@email.secureserver.net> References: <20080516131417.6095274834031e3691077dcdffae0724.4157f926ad.wbe@email.secureserver.net> Message-ID: <1210970159.14764.3.camel@stox.dyndns.org> On Fri, 2008-05-16 at 13:14 -0700, Mike Scott wrote: > Just wondering if anyone has noticed a surge in "backscatter" in the > past 24 hours. > I have gotten about 100+ "undeliverable" email messages in my SPAM > folder from people I have never heard of. > I don't know if it's just my turn, or there's some new zombie army on > the loose. "Joe" jobs are going through the roof to try to bypass spam filters. I had 1600 bounce-backs last weekend. Whenever I can track down the origination, it always appears to be a compromised windows machine. When are we going to hold Microsoft responsible for the havoc their negligence wreaks upon the rest of us? From eric at macadie.net Fri May 16 18:21:56 2008 From: eric at macadie.net (Eric MacAdie) Date: Fri May 16 17:21:31 2008 Subject: [LUNI] OT: Backscatter In-Reply-To: References: <20080516131417.6095274834031e3691077dcdffae0724.4157f926ad.wbe@email.secureserver.net> Message-ID: <482E0904.2010900@MacAdie.net> I noticed I was getting a lot of these about a month ago. I was going to post to the list to ask if anybody else was getting these. My catch-all address got 10,000 messages today. Eric MacAdie Eric Ellington wrote: > I figured this Article on Slashdot just spread the idea wider and wider. > > http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/05/05/0452257 > > My email servers at work have just been getting more and more. > > On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 3:14 PM, Mike Scott wrote: > >> Just wondering if anyone has noticed a surge in "backscatter" in the >> past 24 hours. >> I have gotten about 100+ "undeliverable" email messages in my SPAM >> folder from people I have never heard of. >> I don't know if it's just my turn, or there's some new zombie army on >> the loose. >> >> - Mike Scott >> >> >> -- >> Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion >> http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni >> >> From Penguin at WaxMoustache.com Sat May 17 00:40:32 2008 From: Penguin at WaxMoustache.com (James Velguth) Date: Fri May 16 23:39:53 2008 Subject: [LUNI] OT: Backscatter In-Reply-To: <482E0904.2010900@MacAdie.net> References: <20080516131417.6095274834031e3691077dcdffae0724.4157f926ad.wbe@email.secureserver.net> <482E0904.2010900@MacAdie.net> Message-ID: <482E61C0.7010007@WaxMoustache.com> Sometime last year I started to receive tons of extra spam and for the first time using my full name. This was in my Jim@WaxMoustache.com email address then I received a message from Monster.com apologizing for getting hacked which explains how they had the knowledge of me. About 2 months ago I started receiving up to 200 bounce backs a day from spamers that hijacked that email address. I sent a number of them to spamcop.com and they originate from .de and .au. There is nothing I can do except follow spamcop's recommendation about asking the host to ban them. I believe I will soon have to change my email address. The worst our economy gets the more people will be turning to spamming to make money. Jim Velguth Eric MacAdie wrote: > I noticed I was getting a lot of these about a month ago. I was going > to post to the list to ask if anybody else was getting these. My > catch-all address got 10,000 messages today. > > Eric MacAdie > > > Eric Ellington wrote: > >> I figured this Article on Slashdot just spread the idea wider and wider. >> >> http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/05/05/0452257 >> >> My email servers at work have just been getting more and more. >> >> On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 3:14 PM, Mike Scott wrote: >> >> >>> Just wondering if anyone has noticed a surge in "backscatter" in the >>> past 24 hours. >>> I have gotten about 100+ "undeliverable" email messages in my SPAM >>> folder from people I have never heard of. >>> I don't know if it's just my turn, or there's some new zombie army on >>> the loose. >>> >>> - Mike Scott >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion >>> http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni >>> >>> >> > From trainor at transborder.net Sat May 17 01:55:39 2008 From: trainor at transborder.net (Douglas J. Trainor) Date: Sat May 17 00:01:05 2008 Subject: [LUNI] Debian/Ubuntu OpenSSL Random Number Generator Vulnerability Message-ID: <81B41FCC-8598-4AEF-8B12-85BE83D6ED1F@transborder.net> Technical Cyber Security Alert TA08-137A yada yada yada The result of this error is that certain encryption keys are much more common than they should be. This vulnerability affects cryptographic applications that use keys generated by the flawed versions of the OpenSSL package. Affected keys include, but may not be limited to, SSH keys, OpenVPN keys, DNSSEC keys, and key material for use in X.509 certificates and session keys used in SSL/TLS connections. Any of these keys generated using the affected systems on or after 2006-09-17 may be vulnerable. Keys generated with GnuPG, GNUTLS, ccrypt, or other encryption utilities that do not use OpenSSL are not vulnerable because these applications use their own random number generators. II. Impact A remote, unauthenticated attacker may be able to guess secret key material. The attacker may also be able to gain authenticated access to the system through the affected service or perform man-in-the-middle attacks. From knura at yahoo.com Sat May 17 16:52:43 2008 From: knura at yahoo.com (Arun Khan) Date: Sat May 17 05:28:04 2008 Subject: [LUNI] OT: Backscatter In-Reply-To: <1210970159.14764.3.camel@stox.dyndns.org> References: <20080516131417.6095274834031e3691077dcdffae0724.4157f926ad.wbe@email.secureserver.net> <1210970159.14764.3.camel@stox.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <200805171552.43584.knura@yahoo.com> On Saturday 17 May 2008, Kenneth P. Stox wrote: > When are we going to hold Microsoft responsible for the havoc their > negligence wreaks upon the rest of us? They might point to some fix which many admins might not have picked up. -- Arun Khan From sean-lynch at sean-lynch.com Sat May 17 12:45:51 2008 From: sean-lynch at sean-lynch.com (sean lynch) Date: Sat May 17 12:06:13 2008 Subject: [LUNI] Debian/Ubuntu OpenSSL Random Number Generator Vulnerability In-Reply-To: <81B41FCC-8598-4AEF-8B12-85BE83D6ED1F@transborder.net> References: <81B41FCC-8598-4AEF-8B12-85BE83D6ED1F@transborder.net> Message-ID: <482F0BBF.8070307@sean-lynch.com> Douglas J. Trainor wrote: > > Technical Cyber Security Alert TA08-137A yada yada yada > > The result of this error is that certain encryption keys are much more > common than they should be. This vulnerability affects cryptographic > applications that use keys generated by the flawed versions of the > OpenSSL package. Affected keys include, but may not be limited to, SSH > keys, OpenVPN keys, DNSSEC keys, and key material for use in X.509 > certificates and session keys used in SSL/TLS connections. Any of > these keys generated using the affected systems on or after 2006-09-17 > may be vulnerable. Keys generated with GnuPG, GNUTLS, ccrypt, or other > encryption utilities that do not use OpenSSL are not vulnerable > because these applications use their own random number generators. > > II. Impact > > A remote, unauthenticated attacker may be able to guess secret key > material. The attacker may also be able to gain authenticated access > to the system through the affected service or perform > man-in-the-middle attacks. debian wiki has a good article following this: http://wiki.debian.org/SSLkeys help can also be found here: http://www.debian.org/security/key-rollover Including tools to help you find and clean up any mess this may have made for you. SJVN has a pretty frank and honest article on how debian's practice of often 'forking' upstream created the problem in the first place: http://blogs.computerworld.com/fixing_debian_openssl http://practical-tech.com/operating-system/linux/open-source-security-idiots/ Some people have said he is too harsh. I can see forking being practical to help debian deal with the many platforms they support, but they can't say they don't have enough time to test. They take as much as they want. It was a mistake and should be dealt with honestly. The response from the debian team has been swift. At least things like this are the exception in the Gnu/Linux world, not the rule like with other OS's! From maney at two14.net Sun May 18 10:07:40 2008 From: maney at two14.net (Martin Maney) Date: Sun May 18 09:07:52 2008 Subject: [LUNI] OT: Backscatter In-Reply-To: <200805171552.43584.knura@yahoo.com> References: <20080516131417.6095274834031e3691077dcdffae0724.4157f926ad.wbe@email.secureserver.net> <1210970159.14764.3.camel@stox.dyndns.org> <200805171552.43584.knura@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20080518140740.GA26868@furrr.two14.net> On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 03:52:43PM +0530, Arun Khan wrote: > On Saturday 17 May 2008, Kenneth P. Stox wrote: > > > When are we going to hold Microsoft responsible for the havoc their > > negligence wreaks upon the rest of us? No porcine aviators have been spotted yet... > They might point to some fix which many admins might not have picked up. Linux installation CD? -- There is a germ of religion in human nature so strong that whenever an order of men can persuade the people by flattery or terror that they have salvation at their disposal,there can be no end to fraud, violence, and usurpation. -- John Adams From knura at yahoo.com Sun May 18 22:12:20 2008 From: knura at yahoo.com (Arun Khan) Date: Sun May 18 10:49:42 2008 Subject: [LUNI] OT: Backscatter In-Reply-To: <20080518140740.GA26868@furrr.two14.net> References: <20080516131417.6095274834031e3691077dcdffae0724.4157f926ad.wbe@email.secureserver.net> <200805171552.43584.knura@yahoo.com> <20080518140740.GA26868@furrr.two14.net> Message-ID: <200805182112.20618.knura@yahoo.com> On Sunday 18 May 2008, Martin Maney wrote: > On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 03:52:43PM +0530, Arun Khan wrote: > > > They might point to some fix which many admins might not have > > picked up. > > Linux installation CD? Good one :) I meant M$ fixes. Many windows admins install apps. and then fail to apply security fixes. Can't always blame the vendor. -- Arun Khan From luni at pyewacket.org Sun May 18 10:12:05 2008 From: luni at pyewacket.org (Mike Scott) Date: Sun May 18 11:12:15 2008 Subject: [LUNI] OT: Backscatter Message-ID: <20080518091205.6095274834031e3691077dcdffae0724.e2c766df0b.wbe@email.secureserver.net> Get back to me after installing the latest "security fix" for XP (service pack 3). That alone should take a large portion of compromised systems offline by causing infinite reboot loops and BSOD. BTW my spam folder appears to have settled back to Viagra ads and fake Hallmark cards. - Mike Scott > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: [LUNI] OT: Backscatter > From: Arun Khan > Date: Sun, May 18, 2008 10:42 am > To: Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > > > On Sunday 18 May 2008, Martin Maney wrote: > > On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 03:52:43PM +0530, Arun Khan wrote: > > > > > > They might point to some fix which many admins might not have > > > picked up. > > > > Linux installation CD? > > Good one :) > > I meant M$ fixes. Many windows admins install apps. and then fail to > apply security fixes. Can't always blame the vendor. > > -- > Arun Khan > > -- > Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni From jrstark at barntowire.com Sun May 18 12:27:20 2008 From: jrstark at barntowire.com (Janine Starykowicz) Date: Sun May 18 11:27:16 2008 Subject: [LUNI] OT: Backscatter In-Reply-To: <20080518091205.6095274834031e3691077dcdffae0724.e2c766df0b.wbe@email.secureserver.net> References: <20080518091205.6095274834031e3691077dcdffae0724.e2c766df0b.wbe@email.secureserver.net> Message-ID: <483058E8.4000306@barntowire.com> It comes in waves. I got hit fast and furious for about 4 hours the first time. Every few days I get more, but it is much more manageable. I've been able to route most directly to trash with only two or three filters, plus what gets caught in my spam filter. Janine Mike Scott wrote: > Get back to me after installing the latest "security fix" for XP (service pack 3). > That alone should take a large portion of compromised systems offline by causing infinite reboot loops and BSOD. > BTW my spam folder appears to have settled back to Viagra ads and fake Hallmark cards. > > - Mike Scott > From larry at garfieldtech.com Sun May 18 21:03:46 2008 From: larry at garfieldtech.com (Larry Garfield) Date: Sun May 18 20:03:50 2008 Subject: [LUNI] Wanted, Dead or Alive: PHP/Drupal programmers Message-ID: <200805182003.46441.larry@garfieldtech.com> (OK, alive would be preferable.) Obligatory businessy description: Palantir.net is looking for PHP programmers to join its growing team. Palantir is one of the oldest web development shops in Chicago, dating back to 1996. We develop customized web sites and web applications for a variety of organizations, especially non-profit and cultural institutions. We develop primarily using the Drupal open source Content Management Platform, and are looking for skilled programmers to join our team in our Chicago office. The full rundown, and where to apply: http://palantir.net/careers/programmer Informal description: So we've just moved into a brand new office in west Lincoln Park so that we have room to expand, which is good because we have enough work to keep everyone busy and then some. Palantir is a family company, and a great place to work. (I've been here for 2.5 years now.) The working environment includes a chalkboard wall, company issue Nerf guns, and a puppy. Oh yeah, and all the stuff you need to get actual work done, too. Palantir is primarily an open source company. As a programmer, 90% or better of your job would involve working with Drupal, the leading open source content management platform on the web. We strive to be good open source citizens, too, contributing back to the community both in code and in other ways, such as hosting design sprints for developers and sponsoring the recent DrupalCon developers conference in Boston. Palantir's team includes several high-profile names in the Drupal world as well. If you want to get paid to work with and on a major open source project, this is the place to be. We're open to people already experienced with Drupal as well as those new to the community. We are looking for full time on-site programmers, but are open to summer interns as well. If you have questions, contact me off-list. To apply, see the link above. -- Larry Garfield AIM: LOLG42 larry@garfieldtech.com ICQ: 6817012 "If nature has made any one thing less susceptible than all others of exclusive property, it is the action of the thinking power called an idea, which an individual may exclusively possess as long as he keeps it to himself; but the moment it is divulged, it forces itself into the possession of every one, and the receiver cannot dispossess himself of it." -- Thomas Jefferson From craig at codestorm.org Sun May 18 23:07:04 2008 From: craig at codestorm.org (Craig Van Tassle) Date: Sun May 18 22:07:14 2008 Subject: [LUNI] OT: Backscatter In-Reply-To: <483058E8.4000306@barntowire.com> References: <20080518091205.6095274834031e3691077dcdffae0724.e2c766df0b.wbe@email.secureserver.net> <483058E8.4000306@barntowire.com> Message-ID: <20080518220704.7634f417@dragon.codestorm.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I had it happen to me a while ago. I would get a couple thousand backscatter messages a day. They do it kind of two fold. If the sending is successful they get another spam out, if not they get the backscatter spam. It comes in waves and is a weakness in the SMTP protocol, I dont really see a way to fix it other then taking the spammers out back and introducing them to the people who have purchased their "products". A 10 LBS woman with a 100' penis on Viagra would with a webcam that they just have to show everyone. That I would actually pay to see. HEHEHE. On Sun, 18 May 2008 11:27:20 -0500 Janine Starykowicz wrote: > It comes in waves. I got hit fast and furious for about 4 hours the > first time. Every few days I get more, but it is much more > manageable. I've been able to route most directly to trash with only > two or three filters, plus what gets caught in my spam filter. > > Janine > > Mike Scott wrote: > > Get back to me after installing the latest "security fix" for XP > > (service pack 3). That alone should take a large portion of > > compromised systems offline by causing infinite reboot loops and > > BSOD. BTW my spam folder appears to have settled back to Viagra ads > > and fake Hallmark cards. > > > > - Mike Scott > > > - -- "An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life." Robert A. Heinlein "Fear is the father of servitude, and the captor of man. There cannot be slavery without fear, nor freedom with it." "Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." -Albert Einstein -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFIMO7cRkNuCCPG+0oRAhnTAJ96jhBIDe3UiJ2NFWxlA5pfzhM7QQCfTtK2 4uZf65eLasUT1wGc+fL7Wkw= =lQeu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From richard at rushlogistics.com Tue May 20 11:56:40 2008 From: richard at rushlogistics.com (Richard Reina) Date: Tue May 20 12:56:47 2008 Subject: [LUNI] Broadband router question. Message-ID: <75766.20400.qm@web607.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> We just got a t-1 line here at our office and I was wondering if someone could provide me with some guidance as to what I need to do configure are Linksys wireless router (WRT54G). Right now our router is hooked up to our soon to be obsolete DSL modem. I know I need to unplug it from the DSL modem and plug it into the T1-router in the phone closet. However, is there more configuring I need to do besides that? The tech thought I would need to assign a static IP to the wireless router --which I have no clue how to do -- so that it could talk to the T1 router? Can anyone advise how to proceed? Thanks, Richard Your beliefs become your thoughts. Your thoughts become your words. Your words become your actions. Your actions become your habits. Your habits become your values. Your values become your destiny. -- Mahatma Gandhi From luni at pyewacket.org Tue May 20 12:51:46 2008 From: luni at pyewacket.org (Mike Scott) Date: Tue May 20 13:51:54 2008 Subject: [LUNI] Broadband router question. Message-ID: <20080520115146.6095274834031e3691077dcdffae0724.d9bd4f6462.wbe@email.secureserver.net> The WRT54G uses a web-based interface. I assume you have the logon info (username and password). If not, there is a simple way to reset it, but you lose all the WRT54 configuration. User manuals for this router are available online from Linksys. As for the IP info, if it is static, you need to get that from your ISP. Typically it will be an IP address, netmask, default route, and 1 or more nameservers. - Mike Scott > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: [LUNI] Broadband router question. > From: Richard Reina > Date: Tue, May 20, 2008 12:56 pm > To: luni@luni.org > > > We just got a t-1 line here at our office and I was wondering if someone could provide me with some guidance as to what I need to do configure are Linksys wireless router (WRT54G). Right now our router is hooked up to our soon to be obsolete DSL modem. I know I need to unplug it from the DSL modem and plug it into the T1-router in the phone closet. However, is there more configuring I need to do besides that? The tech thought I would need to assign a static IP to the wireless router --which I have no clue how to do -- so that it could talk to the T1 router? Can anyone advise how to proceed? > > Thanks, > > Richard > > > Your beliefs become your thoughts. Your thoughts become your words. Your words become your actions. Your actions become your habits. Your habits become your values. Your values become your destiny. -- Mahatma Gandhi > -- > Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni From skie at dragonsvalley.com Tue May 20 15:09:40 2008 From: skie at dragonsvalley.com (Branko Kotur) Date: Tue May 20 14:10:11 2008 Subject: [LUNI] Broadband router question. In-Reply-To: <75766.20400.qm@web607.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <75766.20400.qm@web607.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200805201409.40229.skie@dragonsvalley.com> The router is probably set for either DHCP or PPPoE. You'll need to get the IP, netmask, gateway and nameservers from the ISP that's providing the T1. You'll also need to login to the router to update this info. By default, the WRT54G uses the IP 192.168.1.1 (or was it 192.168.2.1?). Type that IP into your browser and you should be asked for a username and password. If not, find out the gateway IP that the computers on the network are using and type that into the browser. On Tuesday 20 May 2008 12:56:40 pm Richard Reina wrote: > We just got a t-1 line here at our office and I was wondering if someone > could provide me with some guidance as to what I need to do configure are > Linksys wireless router (WRT54G). Right now our router is hooked up to our > soon to be obsolete DSL modem. I know I need to unplug it from the DSL > modem and plug it into the T1-router in the phone closet. However, is > there more configuring I need to do besides that? The tech thought I would > need to assign a static IP to the wireless router --which I have no clue > how to do -- so that it could talk to the T1 router? Can anyone advise > how to proceed? > > Thanks, > > Richard > > > Your beliefs become your thoughts. Your thoughts become your words. Your > words become your actions. Your actions become your habits. Your habits > become your values. Your values become your destiny. -- Mahatma Gandhi From luni at pyewacket.org Tue May 20 13:32:20 2008 From: luni at pyewacket.org (Mike Scott) Date: Tue May 20 14:32:30 2008 Subject: [LUNI] Broadband router question. Message-ID: <20080520123220.6095274834031e3691077dcdffae0724.026cb4442f.wbe@email.secureserver.net> One other thing. This type of configuration change may want to reboot the router. After it reboots, you should reboot all of your office PCs (or at lease force them to renew their IP addresses). This way the router will reload it's DHCP assignment table. If you don't do this and add a new machine to your network or turn on a machine that has been off for awhile, you could end up with two machines trying to use the same IP address. - Mike Scott > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: [LUNI] Broadband router question. > From: Richard Reina > Date: Tue, May 20, 2008 12:56 pm > To: luni@luni.org > > > We just got a t-1 line here at our office and I was wondering if someone could provide me with some guidance as to what I need to do configure are Linksys wireless router (WRT54G). Right now our router is hooked up to our soon to be obsolete DSL modem. I know I need to unplug it from the DSL modem and plug it into the T1-router in the phone closet. However, is there more configuring I need to do besides that? The tech thought I would need to assign a static IP to the wireless router --which I have no clue how to do -- so that it could talk to the T1 router? Can anyone advise how to proceed? > > Thanks, > > Richard > > > Your beliefs become your thoughts. Your thoughts become your words. Your words become your actions. Your actions become your habits. Your habits become your values. Your values become your destiny. -- Mahatma Gandhi > -- > Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni From richard at rushlogistics.com Wed May 21 09:12:36 2008 From: richard at rushlogistics.com (Richard Reina) Date: Wed May 21 10:12:44 2008 Subject: [LUNI] Broadband router question. In-Reply-To: <200805201409.40229.skie@dragonsvalley.com> Message-ID: <112307.88608.qm@web607.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> My isp has given me a gateway IP a range static of IPs and a netmask. So do I just unplug from the DSL modem and plug it into the T1 router then log in and enter the info? Branko Kotur wrote: The router is probably set for either DHCP or PPPoE. You'll need to get the IP, netmask, gateway and nameservers from the ISP that's providing the T1. You'll also need to login to the router to update this info. By default, the WRT54G uses the IP 192.168.1.1 (or was it 192.168.2.1?). Type that IP into your browser and you should be asked for a username and password. If not, find out the gateway IP that the computers on the network are using and type that into the browser. On Tuesday 20 May 2008 12:56:40 pm Richard Reina wrote: > We just got a t-1 line here at our office and I was wondering if someone > could provide me with some guidance as to what I need to do configure are > Linksys wireless router (WRT54G). Right now our router is hooked up to our > soon to be obsolete DSL modem. I know I need to unplug it from the DSL > modem and plug it into the T1-router in the phone closet. However, is > there more configuring I need to do besides that? The tech thought I would > need to assign a static IP to the wireless router --which I have no clue > how to do -- so that it could talk to the T1 router? Can anyone advise > how to proceed? > > Thanks, > > Richard > > > Your beliefs become your thoughts. Your thoughts become your words. Your > words become your actions. Your actions become your habits. Your habits > become your values. Your values become your destiny. -- Mahatma Gandhi -- Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni Your beliefs become your thoughts. Your thoughts become your words. Your words become your actions. Your actions become your habits. Your habits become your values. Your values become your destiny. -- Mahatma Gandhi From skie at dragonsvalley.com Wed May 21 11:29:12 2008 From: skie at dragonsvalley.com (Branko Kotur) Date: Wed May 21 10:29:44 2008 Subject: [LUNI] Broadband router question. In-Reply-To: <112307.88608.qm@web607.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <112307.88608.qm@web607.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200805211029.12542.skie@dragonsvalley.com> Pretty much. If you've been given multiple static IP's, then you only need to use one of them. If you'd like to use the other static IP's, you should be able to use them via the gaming and routing tabs within the interface. If your ISP hasn't given you nameserver IP's, make sure you get those first. On Wednesday 21 May 2008 10:12:36 am Richard Reina wrote: > My isp has given me a gateway IP a range static of IPs and a netmask. So > do I just unplug from the DSL modem and plug it into the T1 router then log > in and enter the info? > > > > Branko Kotur wrote: The router is probably set for > either DHCP or PPPoE. You'll need to get the IP, netmask, gateway and > nameservers from the ISP that's providing the T1. You'll also need to login > to the router to update this info. By default, the WRT54G uses the IP > 192.168.1.1 (or was it 192.168.2.1?). Type that IP into your browser and > you should be asked for a username and password. If not, find out the > gateway IP that the computers on the network are using and type that into > the browser. > > On Tuesday 20 May 2008 12:56:40 pm Richard Reina wrote: > > We just got a t-1 line here at our office and I was wondering if someone > > could provide me with some guidance as to what I need to do configure are > > Linksys wireless router (WRT54G). Right now our router is hooked up to > > our soon to be obsolete DSL modem. I know I need to unplug it from the > > DSL modem and plug it into the T1-router in the phone closet. However, > > is there more configuring I need to do besides that? The tech thought I > > would need to assign a static IP to the wireless router --which I have no > > clue how to do -- so that it could talk to the T1 router? Can anyone > > advise how to proceed? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Richard > > > > > > Your beliefs become your thoughts. Your thoughts become your words. > > Your words become your actions. Your actions become your habits. Your > > habits become your values. Your values become your destiny. -- Mahatma > > Gandhi > > -- > Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni > > > > Your beliefs become your thoughts. Your thoughts become your words. Your > words become your actions. Your actions become your habits. Your habits > become your values. Your values become your destiny. -- Mahatma Gandhi From jvsmith at digitalmatter.us Wed May 21 11:43:09 2008 From: jvsmith at digitalmatter.us (Jason Smith) Date: Wed May 21 10:43:17 2008 Subject: [LUNI] Broadband router question. In-Reply-To: <75766.20400.qm@web607.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <75766.20400.qm@web607.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <729944bc0805210843h2c3384fdm97564a6795de5551@mail.gmail.com> Just out of curiosity Richard. Why did you change from DSL to T1? Was it a matter of service and needing better upload speeds? Jason -- Jason Smith jvsmith at digitalmatter.us Nations have recently been led to borrow billions for war; no nation has ever borrowed largely for education. Probably, no nation is rich enough to pay for both war and civilization. We must make our choice; we cannot have both. ~Abraham Flexner Education is a better safeguard of liberty than a standing army. ~Edward Everett From richard at rushlogistics.com Wed May 21 11:08:26 2008 From: richard at rushlogistics.com (Richard Reina) Date: Wed May 21 12:08:34 2008 Subject: [LUNI] Broadband router question. In-Reply-To: <729944bc0805210843h2c3384fdm97564a6795de5551@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <641622.23746.qm@web608.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Both. Jason Smith wrote: Just out of curiosity Richard. Why did you change from DSL to T1? Was it a matter of service and needing better upload speeds? Jason -- Jason Smith jvsmith at digitalmatter.us Nations have recently been led to borrow billions for war; no nation has ever borrowed largely for education. Probably, no nation is rich enough to pay for both war and civilization. We must make our choice; we cannot have both. ~Abraham Flexner Education is a better safeguard of liberty than a standing army. ~Edward Everett -- Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni Your beliefs become your thoughts. Your thoughts become your words. Your words become your actions. Your actions become your habits. Your habits become your values. Your values become your destiny. -- Mahatma Gandhi From richard at rushlogistics.com Fri May 23 05:57:57 2008 From: richard at rushlogistics.com (Richard Reina) Date: Fri May 23 06:58:06 2008 Subject: [LUNI] Static DNS addresses Message-ID: <806630.71177.qm@web603.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I am trying to setup WRT54G with a t1 router. I have managed to log into the router and have entered a static IP from my IPP gave me the subnet mask and the gateway. However, I don't know what to put for the Static DNS addresses? would anyone know? Your beliefs become your thoughts. Your thoughts become your words. Your words become your actions. Your actions become your habits. Your habits become your values. Your values become your destiny. -- Mahatma Gandhi From deq at pattishall.com Fri May 23 09:06:50 2008 From: deq at pattishall.com (Dale Qualls) Date: Fri May 23 08:21:16 2008 Subject: [LUNI] Static DNS addresses In-Reply-To: <806630.71177.qm@web603.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <806630.71177.qm@web603.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <48367B19.F5E5.0079.0@pattishall.com> Your ISP should provide DNS servers IP addresses to you (which would probably net you the best performance.) If not, there are a few public DNS servers you can use, just google for 'em. HTH! >>> Richard Reina 5/23/2008 6:57 AM >>> I am trying to setup WRT54G with a t1 router. I have managed to log into the router and have entered a static IP from my IPP gave me the subnet mask and the gateway. However, I don't know what to put for the Static DNS addresses? would anyone know? Your beliefs become your thoughts. Your thoughts become your words. Your words become your actions. Your actions become your habits. Your habits become your values. Your values become your destiny. -- Mahatma Gandhi -- Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni *************************************************************************** The preceding message and any attachments may contain confidential information protected by the attorney-client or other privilege. You may not forward this message or any attachments without the permission of the sender. If you believe that it has been sent to you in error, please reply to the sender that you received the message in error and then delete it. Nothing in this email message, including the typed name of the sender and/or this signature block, is intended to constitute an electronic signature unless a specific statement to the contrary is included in the message. *************************************************************************** From knura at yahoo.com Fri May 23 20:16:00 2008 From: knura at yahoo.com (Arun Khan) Date: Fri May 23 08:46:10 2008 Subject: [LUNI] Static DNS addresses In-Reply-To: <806630.71177.qm@web603.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <806630.71177.qm@web603.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200805231916.00231.knura@yahoo.com> On Friday 23 May 2008, Richard Reina wrote: > I am trying to setup WRT54G with a t1 router. I have managed to log > into the router and have entered a static IP from my IPP gave me the > subnet mask and the gateway. However, I don't know what to put for > the Static DNS addresses? would anyone know? This is something that your ISP should have given you along with the above. Alternately, take a look at -- Arun Khan From luni at pyewacket.org Fri May 23 08:18:24 2008 From: luni at pyewacket.org (Mike Scott) Date: Fri May 23 09:18:32 2008 Subject: [LUNI] Static DNS addresses Message-ID: <20080523071824.6095274834031e3691077dcdffae0724.e8c4e5c42a.wbe@email.secureserver.net> That should have come from your ISP along with other info you already got. Usually they provide 2 IP addresses. Alternatively, you could use Open DNS, http://opendns.org/ I use them at home, rather than the DNS servers from WOW. - Mike Scott > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: [LUNI] Static DNS addresses > From: Richard Reina > Date: Fri, May 23, 2008 6:57 am > To: luni@luni.org > > > I am trying to setup WRT54G with a t1 router. I have managed to log into the router and have entered a static IP from my IPP gave me the subnet mask and the gateway. However, I don't know what to put for the Static DNS addresses? would anyone know? > > > Your beliefs become your thoughts. Your thoughts become your words. Your words become your actions. Your actions become your habits. Your habits become your values. Your values become your destiny. -- Mahatma Gandhi > -- > Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni From tprinty at mail.edisonave.net Fri May 23 11:34:03 2008 From: tprinty at mail.edisonave.net (Tom Printy) Date: Fri May 23 10:34:13 2008 Subject: [LUNI] Static DNS addresses In-Reply-To: <806630.71177.qm@web603.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <806630.71177.qm@web603.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1211556844.15167.2.camel@localhost> Are you running a new firmware like OpenWRT or Tomato or are you using the sock Linksys firmware? If you are using the stock firmware you can consult the user guide at: http://www.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?c=L_Product_C2&childpagename=US %2FLayout&cid=1175243243298&pagename=Linksys%2FCommon% 2FVisitorWrapper&lid=4329833028B13 -Tom On Fri, 2008-05-23 at 04:57 -0700, Richard Reina wrote: > I am trying to setup WRT54G with a t1 router. I have managed to log into the router and have entered a static IP from my IPP gave me the subnet mask and the gateway. However, I don't know what to put for the Static DNS addresses? would anyone know? > > > Your beliefs become your thoughts. Your thoughts become your words. Your words become your actions. Your actions become your habits. Your habits become your values. Your values become your destiny. -- Mahatma Gandhi From luni at pyewacket.org Fri May 23 13:45:28 2008 From: luni at pyewacket.org (Mike Scott) Date: Fri May 23 14:45:35 2008 Subject: [LUNI] Static DNS addresses Message-ID: <20080523124528.6095274834031e3691077dcdffae0724.92ad1ca150.wbe@email.secureserver.net> Mine runs DD-WRT, but I believe those 3rd party distros require the WRT54GL (L for Linux). The stock WRT doesn't have enough memory for the expanded firmware. - Mike Scott > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: [LUNI] Static DNS addresses > From: Tom Printy > Date: Fri, May 23, 2008 10:34 am > To: Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > > > > Are you running a new firmware like OpenWRT or Tomato or are you using > the sock Linksys firmware? > > If you are using the stock firmware you can consult the user guide at: > http://www.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?c=L_Product_C2&childpagename=US > %2FLayout&cid=1175243243298&pagename=Linksys%2FCommon% > 2FVisitorWrapper&lid=4329833028B13 > > > -Tom > > > On Fri, 2008-05-23 at 04:57 -0700, Richard Reina wrote: > > I am trying to setup WRT54G with a t1 router. I have managed to log into the router and have entered a static IP from my IPP gave me the subnet mask and the gateway. However, I don't know what to put for the Static DNS addresses? would anyone know? > > > > > > Your beliefs become your thoughts. Your thoughts become your words. Your words become your actions. Your actions become your habits. Your habits become your values. Your values become your destiny. -- Mahatma Gandhi > > -- > Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni From mark at msbrepairs.com Fri May 23 13:58:22 2008 From: mark at msbrepairs.com (mark@msbrepairs.com) Date: Fri May 23 15:06:53 2008 Subject: [LUNI] Static DNS addresses In-Reply-To: <1211556844.15167.2.camel@localhost> References: <806630.71177.qm@web603.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <1211556844.15167.2.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <1211572702.483721de4bc29@webmail.msbrepairs.com> Richard Reina wrote: > > I am trying to setup WRT54G with a t1 router. I have managed to log into > the router and have entered a static IP from my IPP gave me the subnet mask > and the gateway. However, I don't know what to put for the Static DNS > addresses? would anyone know? You could use these .. 208.67.222.222 and 208.67.220.220. Which belong to OpenDNS However, your isp should have given you dns server addresses of their own. From richard at rushlogistics.com Fri May 23 14:15:15 2008 From: richard at rushlogistics.com (Richard Reina) Date: Fri May 23 15:15:27 2008 Subject: [LUNI] Static DNS addresses In-Reply-To: <1211572702.483721de4bc29@webmail.msbrepairs.com> Message-ID: <246427.84471.qm@web603.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I will try those. Although, I think I may have also found some DNS ips from my ISP. wrote: Richard Reina wrote: > > I am trying to setup WRT54G with a t1 router. I have managed to log into > the router and have entered a static IP from my IPP gave me the subnet mask > and the gateway. However, I don't know what to put for the Static DNS > addresses? would anyone know? You could use these .. 208.67.222.222 and 208.67.220.220. Which belong to OpenDNS However, your isp should have given you dns server addresses of their own. -- Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni Your beliefs become your thoughts. Your thoughts become your words. Your words become your actions. Your actions become your habits. Your habits become your values. Your values become your destiny. -- Mahatma Gandhi From knura at yahoo.com Sat May 24 16:40:10 2008 From: knura at yahoo.com (Arun Khan) Date: Sat May 24 05:25:22 2008 Subject: [LUNI] [OT] ekiga setup ... Message-ID: <200805241540.11003.knura@yahoo.com> I am trying to use ekiga but have not had much success. During setup of the ekiga client it correctly detects that my system is behind a NAT and configures it appropriately. The client is able to login to "ekiga.net" and I guess I am "online" because I am notified of incoming calls. However, when I accept the call, I cannot hear the far party nor can the far party hear me. My network setup is as follows: | ekiga client-------| | *|-------------------| +|--------- Internet (ADSL) ekiga client is 192.168.1.68 (Ubuntu 8.04, ekiga v2.0.12) * Linksys WiFi AP - LAN port is 192.168.1.1, WAN port is 192.168.0.9 (Nodes on LAN NAT'd on the WAN port) + DLink DSL502T router/modem - LAN port is 192.168.0.1, WAN port is dyn. IP (PPPoE) (Nodes on LAN NAT'd on the WAN port) Would appreciate pointers from anyone who has used ekiga successfully - please share your setup. TIA -- Arun Khan From chadarius at gmail.com Sun May 25 15:14:12 2008 From: chadarius at gmail.com (Chad Sutton) Date: Sun May 25 14:14:20 2008 Subject: [LUNI] [OT] ekiga setup ... In-Reply-To: <200805241540.11003.knura@yahoo.com> References: <200805241540.11003.knura@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4839BA84.5040205@gmail.com> Have you run the echo test? Ekiga doesn't need anything special network wise. You just need to make sure that STUN is running. I'm a little confused about your WAN port being 192.168.0.9. That doesn't seem correct to me. It looks like you are NAT'ing through your wireless router and then NAT'ing again through your DSL router. There is no reason to do that. I'm not sure if that is your issue or not. If there is no specific reason to have two network segments, I would set your wireless router to 192.168.0.X and turn off DHCP and NAT. Just use it as an access point and not as a router. Your issue may be solved that way. With just one router and one network segment, at the very least your setup will be simplified and perhaps your issues with VOIP will go away. Arun Khan wrote: > I am trying to use ekiga but have not had much success. > > During setup of the ekiga client it correctly detects that my system is > behind a NAT and configures it appropriately. The client is able to > login to "ekiga.net" and I guess I am "online" because I am notified of > incoming calls. > > However, when I accept the call, I cannot hear the far party nor can the > far party hear me. > > My network setup is as follows: > > | > ekiga client-------| | > *|-------------------| > +|--------- Internet (ADSL) > > ekiga client is 192.168.1.68 (Ubuntu 8.04, ekiga v2.0.12) > > * Linksys WiFi AP - LAN port is 192.168.1.1, WAN port is 192.168.0.9 > (Nodes on LAN NAT'd on the WAN port) > > + DLink DSL502T router/modem - LAN port is 192.168.0.1, WAN port is dyn. > IP (PPPoE) > (Nodes on LAN NAT'd on the WAN port) > > Would appreciate pointers from anyone who has used ekiga successfully - > please share your setup. > > TIA > -- Later, Chad Sutton csutton@chadarius.com http://chadarius.com http://stephandchadsutton.com From tim at wielgos.com Wed May 28 16:14:46 2008 From: tim at wielgos.com (Timothy J. Wielgos) Date: Wed May 28 17:14:55 2008 Subject: [LUNI] Fedora 9 NFS install Message-ID: <114384.97576.qm@web31706.mail.mud.yahoo.com> All, I'm trying to do a nfs install for Fedora 9. The installation media is mounted as an ISO at /temp/fedora9, which I export via nfs. The /etc/exports looks like this: /temp 0.0.0.0/0.0.0.0 And that's it. I keep getting the error from the installer "That directory could not be mounted from the server." There are no rejection messages in /var/log/messages on the NFS server. The F5 virtual console on the client says "mount.nfs: access denied by server while mounting 192.168.0.11:/temp/fedora9/" I hit the wall. Does anyone have any insight on this? From seva at sevatech.com Wed May 28 18:25:40 2008 From: seva at sevatech.com (Seva Epsteyn) Date: Wed May 28 17:25:42 2008 Subject: [LUNI] Fedora 9 NFS install In-Reply-To: <114384.97576.qm@web31706.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <114384.97576.qm@web31706.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Firewall? service iptables status # iptables -nL service iptables stop # this turns off firewall for testing Is portmap running? service rpcbind status service rpcbind start rpcinfo -p /etc/exports syntax? I'd use: /media/Fedora *(ro) Is NFS running? service nfs status service nfs start exportfs -a showmount -e -Seva On Wed, 28 May 2008, Timothy J. Wielgos wrote: > All, > > I'm trying to do a nfs install for Fedora 9. The installation media is mounted as an ISO at /temp/fedora9, which I export via nfs. The /etc/exports looks like this: > > /temp 0.0.0.0/0.0.0.0 > > And that's it. I keep getting the error from the installer "That directory could not be mounted from the server." > > There are no rejection messages in /var/log/messages on the NFS server. The F5 virtual console on the client says "mount.nfs: access denied by server while mounting 192.168.0.11:/temp/fedora9/" > > I hit the wall. Does anyone have any insight on this? > From seva at sevatech.com Wed May 28 18:29:11 2008 From: seva at sevatech.com (Seva Epsteyn) Date: Wed May 28 17:29:13 2008 Subject: [LUNI] Fedora 9 NFS install In-Reply-To: References: <114384.97576.qm@web31706.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Also, I think you have to export the filesystem which contains the data, so in your case you have to export /temp/fedora9 not /temp. On Wed, 28 May 2008, Seva Epsteyn wrote: > Firewall? > service iptables status # iptables -nL > service iptables stop # this turns off firewall for testing > > Is portmap running? > service rpcbind status > service rpcbind start > rpcinfo -p > > /etc/exports syntax? I'd use: > /media/Fedora *(ro) > > Is NFS running? > service nfs status > service nfs start > exportfs -a > showmount -e > > -Seva > > On Wed, 28 May 2008, Timothy J. Wielgos wrote: > > > All, > > > > I'm trying to do a nfs install for Fedora 9. The installation media > > is mounted as an ISO at /temp/fedora9, which I export via nfs. The > > /etc/exports looks like this: > > > > /temp 0.0.0.0/0.0.0.0 > > > > And that's it. I keep getting the error from the installer "That > > directory could not be mounted from the server." > > > > There are no rejection messages in /var/log/messages on the NFS > > server. The F5 virtual console on the client says "mount.nfs: access > > denied by server while mounting 192.168.0.11:/temp/fedora9/" > > > > I hit the wall. Does anyone have any insight on this? > > > From tim at wielgos.com Thu May 29 13:57:52 2008 From: tim at wielgos.com (Timothy J. Wielgos) Date: Thu May 29 14:58:00 2008 Subject: [LUNI] Fedora 9 NFS install Message-ID: <416266.23979.qm@web31702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Seva, you're a friggin' genius. I was exporting the parent of the directory my installation ISO was mounted in, but NFS didn't want to do it that way. Once I exported the same directory I mounted the ISO in, I was able to continue. Thanks! ----- Original Message ---- From: Seva Epsteyn To: Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 5:29:11 PM Subject: Re: [LUNI] Fedora 9 NFS install Also, I think you have to export the filesystem which contains the data, so in your case you have to export /temp/fedora9 not /temp. On Wed, 28 May 2008, Seva Epsteyn wrote: > Firewall? > service iptables status # iptables -nL > service iptables stop # this turns off firewall for testing > > Is portmap running? > service rpcbind status > service rpcbind start > rpcinfo -p > > /etc/exports syntax? I'd use: > /media/Fedora *(ro) > > Is NFS running? > service nfs status > service nfs start > exportfs -a > showmount -e > > -Seva > > On Wed, 28 May 2008, Timothy J. Wielgos wrote: > > > All, > > > > I'm trying to do a nfs install for Fedora 9. The installation media > > is mounted as an ISO at /temp/fedora9, which I export via nfs. The > > /etc/exports looks like this: > > > > /temp 0.0.0.0/0.0.0.0 > > > > And that's it. I keep getting the error from the installer "That > > directory could not be mounted from the server." > > > > There are no rejection messages in /var/log/messages on the NFS > > server. The F5 virtual console on the client says "mount.nfs: access > > denied by server while mounting 192.168.0.11:/temp/fedora9/" > > > > I hit the wall. Does anyone have any insight on this? > > > -- Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni From richard at rushlogistics.com Fri May 30 11:06:02 2008 From: richard at rushlogistics.com (Richard Reina) Date: Fri May 30 12:06:10 2008 Subject: [LUNI] moving a website? Message-ID: <846692.56218.qm@web604.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> We are changing webhosting companies. So I have to copy or recreate our website onto our new hosting company's server. Is there an easier way than copying all the files to my computer than uploading them to the new server? It's and endless maze of directories. Your beliefs become your thoughts. Your thoughts become your words. Your words become your actions. Your actions become your habits. Your habits become your values. Your values become your destiny. -- Mahatma Gandhi From costi at apluscompuservices.com Fri May 30 13:13:28 2008 From: costi at apluscompuservices.com (Constantin Gavrilescu) Date: Fri May 30 12:13:35 2008 Subject: [LUNI] moving a website? In-Reply-To: <846692.56218.qm@web604.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <846692.56218.qm@web604.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <484035B8.4050302@apluscompuservices.com> If you have ssh access to the servers I would tar them into a single file. It takes a lot of time to transfer many small files. tar -cz directory -f directory.tar.gz Richard Reina wrote: > We are changing webhosting companies. So I have to copy or recreate our website onto our new hosting company's server. Is there an easier way than copying all the files to my computer than uploading them to the new server? It's and endless maze of directories. > > > Your beliefs become your thoughts. Your thoughts become your words. Your words become your actions. Your actions become your habits. Your habits become your values. Your values become your destiny. -- Mahatma Gandhi > From tprinty at mail.edisonave.net Fri May 30 13:12:51 2008 From: tprinty at mail.edisonave.net (Tom Printy) Date: Fri May 30 12:13:38 2008 Subject: [LUNI] moving a website? In-Reply-To: <846692.56218.qm@web604.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <846692.56218.qm@web604.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1212167571.17237.3.camel@localhost> rsync? from the new server do something like rsync -avz oldserver:/varwww /var/www/. You could also use the replication feature of wget. On Fri, 2008-05-30 at 10:06 -0700, Richard Reina wrote: > We are changing webhosting companies. So I have to copy or recreate our website onto our new hosting company's server. Is there an easier way than copying all the files to my computer than uploading them to the new server? It's and endless maze of directories. > > > Your beliefs become your thoughts. Your thoughts become your words. Your words become your actions. Your actions become your habits. Your habits become your values. Your values become your destiny. -- Mahatma Gandhi From cgmckeever at gmail.com Fri May 30 13:10:56 2008 From: cgmckeever at gmail.com (Chris McKeever) Date: Fri May 30 12:17:45 2008 Subject: [LUNI] moving a website? In-Reply-To: <846692.56218.qm@web604.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <846692.56218.qm@web604.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: if you have access to both boxes, there are slews of ways FTP -.> FTP rsync SCP compress them all up, and transfer them etc it all depends on what you can do on that box. On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 12:06 PM, Richard Reina wrote: > We are changing webhosting companies. So I have to copy or recreate our website onto our new hosting company's server. Is there an easier way than copying all the files to my computer than uploading them to the new server? It's and endless maze of directories. > > > Your beliefs become your thoughts. Your thoughts become your words. Your words become your actions. Your actions become your habits. Your habits become your values. Your values become your destiny. -- Mahatma Gandhi > -- > Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni > From knura at yahoo.com Sat May 31 00:43:07 2008 From: knura at yahoo.com (Arun Khan) Date: Fri May 30 13:13:18 2008 Subject: [LUNI] moving a website? In-Reply-To: <846692.56218.qm@web604.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <846692.56218.qm@web604.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200805302343.07245.knura@yahoo.com> On Friday 30 May 2008, Richard Reina wrote: > We are changing webhosting companies. So I have to copy or recreate > our website onto our new hosting company's server. Is there an > easier way than copying all the files to my computer than uploading > them to the new server? It's and endless maze of directories. some hosting companies offer to copy over the site from the "other" service provider. Is your current web site powered by a CMS engine like Drupal/Jhoomla etc.? Before you undertake manual steps, ask the tech support of your new web hosting company. With the market so crowded, I am sure they have a solution for your needs. -- Arun Khan From skie at dragonsvalley.com Fri May 30 15:15:27 2008 From: skie at dragonsvalley.com (Branko Kotur) Date: Fri May 30 14:16:02 2008 Subject: [LUNI] moving a website? In-Reply-To: <846692.56218.qm@web604.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <846692.56218.qm@web604.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200805301415.27559.skie@dragonsvalley.com> Depending on the end user control panel that your current hosting company provides you with, you might be able to create a backup file of all of your files for easy download. Then, it's a simple matter to re-upload that backup file to the new hosting company and have the control panel restore the backup. This is assuming both hosting companies use the same control panel. I'm familiar with CPanel and know that this can be done. I'm not familiar with any of the other control panels, so your milage may vary. If the 2 hosting companies use different control panels, then your best option would be to download the backup, uncompress it on your local computer and then upload it via FTP/SCP/SFTP/etc. Assuming you have SSH access to both servers, the best (and fastest) option is to create a tar.gz file and transfer it directly to the new server. One other option depends on your relationship with the old hosting company. You could ask them for a backup copy of your files in your favorite compressed format, download it and procede from there. On Friday 30 May 2008 12:06:02 pm Richard Reina wrote: > We are changing webhosting companies. So I have to copy or recreate our > website onto our new hosting company's server. Is there an easier way > than copying all the files to my computer than uploading them to the new > server? It's and endless maze of directories. > > > Your beliefs become your thoughts. Your thoughts become your words. Your > words become your actions. Your actions become your habits. Your habits > become your values. Your values become your destiny. -- Mahatma Gandhi From richard at rushlogistics.com Fri May 30 13:38:20 2008 From: richard at rushlogistics.com (Richard Reina) Date: Fri May 30 14:38:28 2008 Subject: [LUNI] moving a website? In-Reply-To: <200805301415.27559.skie@dragonsvalley.com> Message-ID: <512939.81473.qm@web608.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Thanks for all the suggestions. I think what I will do for now when I have access to the machine I built the site on using the Sitebuilder software, I will check to see if the files were created on the actual harddisk of the machine. If they were as I suspect, I will upload from there. If not, I am back to the drawing board trying to copy the files. Branko Kotur wrote: Depending on the end user control panel that your current hosting company provides you with, you might be able to create a backup file of all of your files for easy download. Then, it's a simple matter to re-upload that backup file to the new hosting company and have the control panel restore the backup. This is assuming both hosting companies use the same control panel. I'm familiar with CPanel and know that this can be done. I'm not familiar with any of the other control panels, so your milage may vary. If the 2 hosting companies use different control panels, then your best option would be to download the backup, uncompress it on your local computer and then upload it via FTP/SCP/SFTP/etc. Assuming you have SSH access to both servers, the best (and fastest) option is to create a tar.gz file and transfer it directly to the new server. One other option depends on your relationship with the old hosting company. You could ask them for a backup copy of your files in your favorite compressed format, download it and procede from there. On Friday 30 May 2008 12:06:02 pm Richard Reina wrote: > We are changing webhosting companies. So I have to copy or recreate our > website onto our new hosting company's server. Is there an easier way > than copying all the files to my computer than uploading them to the new > server? It's and endless maze of directories. > > > Your beliefs become your thoughts. Your thoughts become your words. Your > words become your actions. Your actions become your habits. Your habits > become your values. Your values become your destiny. -- Mahatma Gandhi -- Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni , I am back to the drawing board tryin Branko Kotur wrote: Depending on the end user control panel that your current hosting company provides you with, you might be able to create a backup file of all of your files for easy download. Then, it's a simple matter to re-upload that backup file to the new hosting company and have the control panel restore the backup. This is assuming both hosting companies use the same control panel. I'm familiar with CPanel and know that this can be done. I'm not familiar with any of the other control panels, so your milage may vary. If the 2 hosting companies use different control panels, then your best option would be to download the backup, uncompress it on your local computer and then upload it via FTP/SCP/SFTP/etc. Assuming you have SSH access to both servers, the best (and fastest) option is to create a tar.gz file and transfer it directly to the new server. One other option depends on your relationship with the old hosting company. You could ask them for a backup copy of your files in your favorite compressed format, download it and procede from there. On Friday 30 May 2008 12:06:02 pm Richard Reina wrote: > We are changing webhosting companies. So I have to copy or recreate our > website onto our new hosting company's server. Is there an easier way > than copying all the files to my computer than uploading them to the new > server? It's and endless maze of directories. > > > Your beliefs become your thoughts. Your thoughts become your words. Your > words become your actions. Your actions become your habits. Your habits > become your values. Your values become your destiny. -- Mahatma Gandhi -- Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni Your beliefs become your thoughts. Your thoughts become your words. Your words become your actions. Your actions become your habits. Your habits become your values. Your values become your destiny. -- Mahatma Gandhi From eric at macadie.net Fri May 30 16:15:21 2008 From: eric at macadie.net (Eric MacAdie) Date: Fri May 30 15:15:17 2008 Subject: [LUNI] moving a website? In-Reply-To: <200805302343.07245.knura@yahoo.com> References: <846692.56218.qm@web604.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <200805302343.07245.knura@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <48406059.4060105@MacAdie.net> Arun Khan wrote: > > Is your current web site powered by a CMS engine like Drupal/Jhoomla > etc.? > > Just out of curiosity, do any of those CMS engines (or any CMS engine) have the ability to export a site to a static file tree? Eric MacAdie 2.0 Always in beta From e.ellington at gmail.com Fri May 30 16:35:53 2008 From: e.ellington at gmail.com (Eric Ellington) Date: Fri May 30 15:35:56 2008 Subject: [LUNI] moving a website? In-Reply-To: <48406059.4060105@MacAdie.net> References: <846692.56218.qm@web604.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <200805302343.07245.knura@yahoo.com> <48406059.4060105@MacAdie.net> Message-ID: I can't say that I know any cms that does that. In Firefox you could do many file -> save page as. However, as that is arduous I know Perl's www:mechanize can do what you want. On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 3:15 PM, Eric MacAdie wrote: > Arun Khan wrote: >> >> Is your current web site powered by a CMS engine like Drupal/Jhoomla etc.? >> >> > > Just out of curiosity, do any of those CMS engines (or any CMS engine) have > the ability to export a site to a static file tree? > > Eric MacAdie 2.0 > Always in beta > > > > > > > -- > Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion > http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni > -- Eric Ellington e.ellington@gmail.com From ramin-list at badapple.net Fri May 30 16:24:25 2008 From: ramin-list at badapple.net (Ramin K) Date: Fri May 30 17:30:10 2008 Subject: [LUNI] moving a website? In-Reply-To: <48406059.4060105@MacAdie.net> References: <846692.56218.qm@web604.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <200805302343.07245.knura@yahoo.com> <48406059.4060105@MacAdie.net> Message-ID: <48407E99.2050003@badapple.net> Eric MacAdie wrote: > Arun Khan wrote: >> >> Is your current web site powered by a CMS engine like Drupal/Jhoomla >> etc.? >> >> > Just out of curiosity, do any of those CMS engines (or any CMS engine) > have the ability to export a site to a static file tree? hmmm I doubt it since most of the pages are dynamic and you could not say for certain that you're going to generate static pages with the right data. Ramin From knura at yahoo.com Sat May 31 10:44:46 2008 From: knura at yahoo.com (Arun Khan) Date: Fri May 30 23:15:05 2008 Subject: [LUNI] moving a website? In-Reply-To: <48406059.4060105@MacAdie.net> References: <846692.56218.qm@web604.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <200805302343.07245.knura@yahoo.com> <48406059.4060105@MacAdie.net> Message-ID: <200805310944.46936.knura@yahoo.com> On Saturday 31 May 2008, Eric MacAdie wrote: > Arun Khan wrote: > > Is your current web site powered by a CMS engine like > > Drupal/Jhoomla etc.? > > Just out of curiosity, do any of those CMS engines (or any CMS > engine) have the ability to export a site to a static file tree? I don't think so. However, there are other ways to do it. I have a site created with Drupal 5.x. I grabbed the MySQL backup files and my Drupal files from the web hosting company, created a blank MySQL db on my desktop (same userid/passwd) installed the Drupal files in Apache doc root and got a local version of my site. This could be done to move your site to a new web hosting co. > Eric MacAdie 2.0 > Always in beta Like M$ :) -- Arun Khan From larry at garfieldtech.com Sat May 31 00:42:47 2008 From: larry at garfieldtech.com (Larry Garfield) Date: Fri May 30 23:42:58 2008 Subject: [LUNI] moving a website? In-Reply-To: <48406059.4060105@MacAdie.net> References: <846692.56218.qm@web604.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <200805302343.07245.knura@yahoo.com> <48406059.4060105@MacAdie.net> Message-ID: <200805302342.47671.larry@garfieldtech.com> On Friday 30 May 2008, Eric MacAdie wrote: > Arun Khan wrote: > > Is your current web site powered by a CMS engine like Drupal/Jhoomla > > etc.? > > Just out of curiosity, do any of those CMS engines (or any CMS engine) > have the ability to export a site to a static file tree? If your site is more managed than "really dynamic" (vis, a given URL will basically always give the same result), you can use wget to generate a static dump of the entire site. The -m flag is a shortcut to what is the usual settings for that. There's another switch I can't recall at the moment that will make it add .html to URLs, which many CMSes don't have on their pages otherwise. -- Larry Garfield AIM: LOLG42 larry@garfieldtech.com ICQ: 6817012 "If nature has made any one thing less susceptible than all others of exclusive property, it is the action of the thinking power called an idea, which an individual may exclusively possess as long as he keeps it to himself; but the moment it is divulged, it forces itself into the possession of every one, and the receiver cannot dispossess himself of it." -- Thomas Jefferson From knura at yahoo.com Sat May 31 12:37:46 2008 From: knura at yahoo.com (Arun Khan) Date: Sat May 31 01:07:58 2008 Subject: [LUNI] moving a website? In-Reply-To: <200805302342.47671.larry@garfieldtech.com> References: <846692.56218.qm@web604.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <48406059.4060105@MacAdie.net> <200805302342.47671.larry@garfieldtech.com> Message-ID: <200805311137.46949.knura@yahoo.com> On Saturday 31 May 2008, Larry Garfield wrote: > On Friday 30 May 2008, Eric MacAdie wrote: > > Arun Khan wrote: > > > Is your current web site powered by a CMS engine like > > > Drupal/Jhoomla etc.? > > > > Just out of curiosity, do any of those CMS engines (or any CMS > > engine) have the ability to export a site to a static file tree? > > If your site is more managed than "really dynamic" (vis, a given URL > will basically always give the same result), you can use wget to > generate a static dump of the entire site. I just tried your suggestion with my site. The site is mostly static but uses Drupal engine to manage the content. wget "mirrored" the site, created dirs for the Drupal "nodes" etc. The "mirrored" results looks nowhere close to the way it does under Drupal. Also, the graphics are missing. I have encountered similar experience with sites managed by wiki engines. -- Arun Khan From mswier at yahoo.com Sat May 31 05:17:50 2008 From: mswier at yahoo.com (Mike Swier) Date: Sat May 31 06:18:09 2008 Subject: [LUNI] ANN: NWCLUG's next meeting 6/3/08 Message-ID: <204674.6412.qm@web57012.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Hi, NWCLUG's next meeting will be at Harper College in A238 at 7pm on Tuesday 5/3/08. We will be discussing Podcasting with Open Source Software. For (a bit) more info see http://nwclug.org/meetings.html#nextmtg mikie -------------- next part -------------- -- Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Announcements Mailing List http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni-announce From eric at macadie.net Sat May 31 12:17:04 2008 From: eric at macadie.net (Eric MacAdie) Date: Sat May 31 11:16:58 2008 Subject: [LUNI] moving a website? In-Reply-To: <200805310944.46936.knura@yahoo.com> References: <846692.56218.qm@web604.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <200805302343.07245.knura@yahoo.com> <48406059.4060105@MacAdie.net> <200805310944.46936.knura@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <48417A00.80003@MacAdie.net> Arun Khan wrote: > On Saturday 31 May 2008, Eric MacAdie wrote: > > > >> Eric MacAdie 2.0 >> Always in beta >> > Like M$ :) > > Actually I was thinking of Google. I think Google News was beta for about four years and Google Finance is still in beta after two. Their betas seem to be better than some of Microsoft's final products. Eric MacAdie From chadarius at gmail.com Sat May 31 13:53:14 2008 From: chadarius at gmail.com (Chad Sutton) Date: Sat May 31 12:53:21 2008 Subject: [LUNI] moving a website? In-Reply-To: <846692.56218.qm@web604.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <846692.56218.qm@web604.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4841908A.1020102@gmail.com> Richard Reina wrote: > We are changing webhosting companies. So I have to copy or recreate our website onto our new hosting company's server. Is there an easier way than copying all the files to my computer than uploading them to the new server? It's and endless maze of directories. > > > Your beliefs become your thoughts. Your thoughts become your words. Your words become your actions. Your actions become your habits. Your habits become your values. Your values become your destiny. -- Mahatma Gandhi > Regardless of the move, I would backup everything into a tar.gz file. You just never know how badly you will want a full backup until you run into a problem and don't have it. I always create a full backup of my database (if you are using Drupal or Wordpress or something you would need to do that) and a full backup of my web files before I make any changes or moves. Trust me. You want the backups. I also backup everything at least monthly and sometimes more often on my personal sites. For business sites, a nightly backup is key. Most hosting companies have easy ways to create tar.gz files of your website files and databases so it should not be difficult. Once you have a tar.gz file your new host can usually untar it using their web admin software. The fastest way to upload is to compress it with the tar.gz backup and upload to the new site. Trying to do individual files will take much longer. -- Later, Chad Sutton csutton@chadarius.com http://chadarius.com http://stephandchadsutton.com From skie at dragonsvalley.com Sat May 31 13:56:07 2008 From: skie at dragonsvalley.com (Branko Kotur) Date: Sat May 31 12:56:42 2008 Subject: [LUNI] moving a website? In-Reply-To: <48417A00.80003@MacAdie.net> References: <846692.56218.qm@web604.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <200805310944.46936.knura@yahoo.com> <48417A00.80003@MacAdie.net> Message-ID: <200805311256.07637.skie@dragonsvalley.com> On Saturday 31 May 2008 11:17:04 am Eric MacAdie wrote: > Actually I was thinking of Google. I think Google News was beta for > about four years and Google Finance is still in beta after two. Their > betas seem to be better than some of Microsoft's final products. > > Eric MacAdie I think that beats Windows 98's beta period (aka Windows 95). From chadarius at gmail.com Sat May 31 14:11:55 2008 From: chadarius at gmail.com (Chad Sutton) Date: Sat May 31 13:12:04 2008 Subject: [LUNI] ANN: NWCLUG's next meeting 6/3/08 In-Reply-To: <204674.6412.qm@web57012.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <204674.6412.qm@web57012.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <484194EB.5050502@gmail.com> Mike Swier wrote: > Hi, > > NWCLUG's next meeting will be at Harper College in A238 at 7pm on Tuesday 5/3/08. > > We will be discussing Podcasting with Open Source Software. > > For (a bit) more info see http://nwclug.org/meetings.html#nextmtg > > mikie > > > > > > > Hey all! Just a few links for everyone. I've posted details on how I podcast at http://chadarius.com/node/97. The fruits of my labor can be found at http://lordsoftyr.com. We have been podcasting for about 2 months now and things are going great. I'm looking forward to the meeting on Tuesday! -- Later, Chad Sutton csutton@chadarius.com http://chadarius.com http://stephandchadsutton.com