[LUNI] Mail server question
larry at garfieldtech.com
Wed Nov 24 21:15:28 CST 2010
On Wednesday, November 24, 2010 9:20:42 am Eric MacAdie wrote:
> I have a few questions for the list.
> Does anyone on the list run their own mail servers?
> If so, which ones? Do you get your mail via POP or IMAP?
> How many people use gmail for their email?
I've run my own mail server for something like 6 years now, maybe a bit more.
It sits in my living room. I originally set it up because I wanted unlimited
IMAP space, and I've since started adding addresses for family as well.
Google later started offering GMail, but it didn't support filtering (no, tags
are not filters/folders and to claim such is shear ignorance) and its IMAP
support was utter crap. Now they, supposedly, offer halfway decent IMAP
support. I haven't tried to do complex filtering server-side with them yet.
I should probably try that at work to see how well it does. (We use Google
Apps for mail at the office.)
Of course, I have no server-side filtering now, either, and every time I've
tried to learn procmail in the past I've failed utterly due to it being a
horrid program, the documentation being completely useless, email being a
moronic architecture, and my own incompetence at comprehending Unix arcanery.
(I suspect roughly equal parts of each.)
I only have to touch the server when upgrading my OS, which means every time I
do I have completely forgotten how it all works and it breaks easily. Email
is an utterly horrid architecture, IMO. I just follow online tutorials for
the appropriate Ubuntu server version. That usually leaves me with postfix
(with MySQL backend), courier-imap, postgrey, and clam-av. I also have a
business-grade line with Comcast, which aside from offering really nice speed
means they don't block any ports. Forwarding SMTP through Comcasts mail
servers (a fully supported and legal option; there's even a wizard setting for
it in Debian/Ubuntu) means I don't think I've ever been blacklisted.
I would only recommend it if you really want to learn how to do it, you're
masochistic, or you're as paranoid of mega-corps owning all of the world's
data as I am. Even at that, I keep pondering moving to a hosted solution,
usually every time I'm looking at spending all weekend on a server upgrade,
95% of it on the mail server. I'm actually about due for another round of
such pain, so this is a very timely thread. :-)
Does anyone know a good hosted-IMAP solution that's *not* Google, Microsoft,
or Facebook (the current Axis of Evil as far as "owning the world" goes) that
is at least vaguely reasonably priced? Anyone know if Google's IMAP filtering
no longer sucks?
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